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cjsdowg
03/19/18 8:48:46 PM
#103:


silentwing26x posted...
lemme guess

this topic is full of the usual suspects deflecting by saying "prager u" without addressing the arguments


The arguments are full of strawmen.
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Howl
03/19/18 8:55:56 PM
#104:


silentwing26x posted...
lemme guess

this topic is full of the usual suspects deflecting by saying "prager u" without addressing the arguments


Posts # 4, 54, 74, and 85 all did that. With various other posts that just quoted some nonsense about Dennis Prager.
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Howl
03/19/18 8:58:58 PM
#105:


cjsdowg posted...
Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Howl posted...


He'll never respond to this. There's no point in even responding to cjsdowg.


Respond to what, his post does change anything that I said.


I agree that it does change what you said because it completely invalidates it.


no it doesn't. The fact of my report still stands.


What report? Lol. A random blurb you made completely taken out of context and mischaracterized to try and support your non sense?
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Taharqa_
03/19/18 9:05:54 PM
#106:


silentwing26x posted...
lemme guess

this topic is full of the usual suspects deflecting by saying "prager u" without addressing the arguments


PragerU is a joke but it's silly to think or suggest that these kind of conversations do not happen in black households. Most of the time however it doesn't let doesn't let white supremacist ideology off the hook.
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The Admiral
03/19/18 9:06:31 PM
#107:


Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Howl posted...


He'll never respond to this. There's no point in even responding to cjsdowg.


Respond to what, his post does change anything that I said.


I agree that it does change what you said because it completely invalidates it.


no it doesn't. The fact of my report still stands.


What report? Lol. A random blurb you made completely taken out of context and mischaracterized to try and support your non sense?


He doesn't understand what he's saying again. The actual source of his statistic makes the opposite point; graduating HS and attending college absolutely helps black men close the unemployment gap.

However, as for why the gap still exists for black men at equal education levels, this is likely the main reason:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144.html

1 In 3 Black Males Will Go To Prison In Their Lifetime, Report Warns


I've seen some pushback on the number as being outdated since the source data is from 2000, but even the most generous adjustments aren't getting that to below in 1 in 4.

And as almost anyone who's in the job market knows, once you have a conviction on your record, you're playing like on hard mode.
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cjsdowg
03/19/18 9:25:13 PM
#108:


The Admiral posted...
He doesn't understand what he's saying again. The actual source of his statistic makes the opposite point; graduating HS and attending college absolutely helps black men close the unemployment gap.

However, as for why the gap still exists for black men at equal education levels, this is likely the main reason:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144.html


And you are bull shitting as normal. You are literally admitting that there is a gap. Just because the gap is lower the higher education people get . does not change that.
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_RETS_
03/19/18 9:37:29 PM
#109:


cjsdowg posted...
The Admiral posted...
He doesn't understand what he's saying again. The actual source of his statistic makes the opposite point; graduating HS and attending college absolutely helps black men close the unemployment gap.

However, as for why the gap still exists for black men at equal education levels, this is likely the main reason:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144.html


And you are bull shitting as normal. You are literally admitting that there is a gap. Just because the gap is lower the higher education people get . does not change that.


Even then, the gap is irrelevant to the post I made which you were replying to originally about jobs.

I didn't say graduating, not having kids before marriage, and having a full time job close any gap, I said it damn near guarantees an able bodied able minded person of any race won't be perpetually poor unless theyre a real fuck up. That is true and has nothing to do with a gap. If blacks can do that, they move up
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gamepimp12
03/19/18 10:02:28 PM
#110:


CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems
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The Admiral
03/19/18 10:14:15 PM
#111:


gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.
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Vulgorn
03/19/18 10:16:24 PM
#112:


The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.

"Judge these pieces of paper, not people that have first hand experience."
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silentwing26x
03/19/18 10:16:54 PM
#113:


Vulgorn posted...
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.

"Judge these pieces of paper, not people that have first hand experience."


lmao

"my anecdote is more important than the numbers!"
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gamepimp12
03/19/18 10:20:12 PM
#114:


The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.


Numbers lie though, especially when theyre being represented from a place of bias.

They dont tell the whole story and to use a few stats people bring to you is setting yourself up for failure.
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silentwing26x
03/19/18 10:21:13 PM
#115:


gamepimp12 posted...
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.


Numbers lie though, especially when theyre being represented from a place of bias.

They dont tell the whole story and to use a few stats people bring to you is setting yourself up for failure.


Something tells me yall don't feel the same way about numbers when the topic is gun violence
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gamepimp12
03/19/18 10:24:35 PM
#116:


silentwing26x posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.


Numbers lie though, especially when theyre being represented from a place of bias.

They dont tell the whole story and to use a few stats people bring to you is setting yourself up for failure.


Something tells me yall don't feel the same way about numbers when the topic is gun violence


In what way ?
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The Admiral
03/19/18 10:26:48 PM
#117:


gamepimp12 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.


Numbers lie though, especially when theyre being represented from a place of bias.

They dont tell the whole story and to use a few stats people bring to you is setting yourself up for failure.


Something tells me yall don't feel the same way about numbers when the topic is gun violence


In what way ?


The numbers on gun violence show that -- despite the left's rhetoric -- there is no school shooting epidemic. Schools are actually safer now than they were in the 90s.

The stats also show that the majority of gun-related homicides are committed by minorities using illegal guns. However, that point is usually where folks on the left stop caring about statistics and start crying racism.
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Ving_Rhames
03/19/18 10:44:40 PM
#118:


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Howl
03/19/18 10:49:21 PM
#119:


Interestingly enough, the rhetoric the left uses to defend these notions of discrimination was debunked by Thomas Sowell in 1981, they're still making those same arguments lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y021WAdUlW8" data-time="

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Dragonblade01
03/19/18 10:49:55 PM
#120:


Just on the topic of data/statistics, the problem I have is when people look at numbers and then that's where their consideration stops. Despite the fact that it's exactly where consideration should begin.
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muchdran
03/19/18 10:52:27 PM
#121:


silentwing26x posted...
lemme guess

this topic is full of the usual suspects deflecting by saying "prager u" without addressing the arguments

Deflecting what ?
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gamepimp12
03/19/18 11:07:35 PM
#122:


The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CEs race trolls always have the same shtick its old.

Its equally old seeing white peoples with few black friends telling people whats the black communities problems


Right, don't trust the stats, trust the opinions of your black friends.


Numbers lie though, especially when theyre being represented from a place of bias.

They dont tell the whole story and to use a few stats people bring to you is setting yourself up for failure.


Something tells me yall don't feel the same way about numbers when the topic is gun violence


In what way ?


The numbers on gun violence show that -- despite the left's rhetoric -- there is no school shooting epidemic. Schools are actually safer now than they were in the 90s.

The stats also show that the majority of gun-related homicides are committed by minorities using illegal guns. However, that point is usually where folks on the left stop caring about statistics and start crying racism.


Hmm interesting I would like to see the stats them selves but a few questions.

1. Is that based on number of school shooting or number of people killed in school shootings

Its entirely reasonable to believe schools are safer and school shooters have gotten more efficient.(god that sounds like a cod game Lmaoo)

2. I would assume majority is sub 60% is that correct ?

3. I would assume those numbers only account for recovered guns

Either way those numbers dont really suprise me when you factor in the relationship race,poverty, and crime have with each other
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