Current Events > wait so people are actually mad at these parkland students for speaking up

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going as far as accusing them for "doing it just for fame"

jesus

christ

they are

kids

they got

SHOT AT

their classmates DIED

is it so unthinkable that this may have affected their political views and they see it fit to use their newfound platform as survivors of the event to try and enact change they believe will help prevent such a thing from happening again

are country-folk and alt-rightbeards literally incapable of understanding why anyone would do something for something other than money

what the fuck is wrong with some people

But mah gunz
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no but guns are precious and don't take them away from me please, they're more important than literal lives of children
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I don't think they're doing it just for fame, I just think they're wrong
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But they're crisis actors!
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how pathetic do you have to be to get angry and accusative at a teenager who was getting shot at a couple weeks ago

seriously this is a new low that's actually broken through the numbness i've felt towards the news the past year and a half

Far right wingers have really latched onto the fact that the lead protester has a buzz cut, and isn't afraid to call them out on their horseshit on social media.

The "skinhead lesbian" douche from Maine is particularly embarrassing.
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

are country-folk and alt-rightbeards literally incapable of understanding why anyone would do something for something other than money

They do not understand such concepts as empathy.
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To be fair, dumb people will predictably say and do dumb things, including getting mad at students for not wanting to be shot anymore.
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You can disagree with the stance of the Parkland kids, that's not a crime.

Getting mad at them for taking a stand for their beliefs, though, holy shit.

MUH 2ND AMENDMENT! STOP USING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT TO TALK ABOUT MY 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

like wat

do you like the constitution or not
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People like that only really know how to attack other peoples credibility.
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SSJKirby posted...

no but guns are precious and don't take them away from me please, they're more important than literal lives of children

My guns dont kill children. Try a better argument.
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Pepys Monster posted...

SSJKirby posted...

no but guns are precious and don't take them away from me please, they're more important than literal lives of children

My guns dont kill children. Try a better argument.

Point unsurprisingly went over your head
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

how pathetic do you have to be to get angry and accusative at a teenager who was getting shot at a couple weeks ago

"Look we're listening and we hear your concerns loud and clear, we'll give your teachers guns" - Republicans
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They are angry at the wrong thing is the problem, they should be bitching the police and feds out for failing to stop this nutcase.

It has been stated many times the police and FBI knew he was a threat but neither of them did anything to stop him.

Guns are not the problem, the police and feds not enforcing the laws we already have is the problem.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

MUH 2ND AMENDMENT! STOP USING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT TO TALK ABOUT MY 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

niiiiiiice
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Offworlder1 posted...

Guns are not the problem, the police and feds not enforcing the laws we already have is the problem.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/06/bureau-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-obama-gun-control-measures-funding-understaffing

:thinkingemoji:
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Offworlder1 posted...

They are angry at the wrong thing is the problem, they should be bitching the police and feds out for failing to stop this nutcase.

It has been stated many times the police and FBI knew he was a threat but neither of them did anything to stop him.

Guns are not the problem, the police and feds not enforcing the laws we already have is the problem.

Maybe you'd have a point if this was the only school shooting in America
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Its a lot of anti scocial people and people eho were bullied going off the deep end, something needs to be done to get these shut ins and friendless anti social people to get a sense of community and for them to make friends.

Bullied people also need an alternative way to deal with bullies cause going on a shooting spree is not the answer. The bullies need to be punished and people need to encourage fighting back not being a passive pussy.
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it's not always that they were bullied wtf

is this just the #alllivesmatter of gun debates

Darmik posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

They are angry at the wrong thing is the problem, they should be bitching the police and feds out for failing to stop this nutcase.

It has been stated many times the police and FBI knew he was a threat but neither of them did anything to stop him.

Guns are not the problem, the police and feds not enforcing the laws we already have is the problem.

Maybe you'd have a point if this was the only school shooting in America

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The right wing in the US is extremely pathological and incapable of empathy. This is what happens when you have been exposed to fox news fearmongering for decades.
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Offworlder1 posted...

Its a lot of anti scocial people and people eho were bullied going off the deep end, something needs to be done to get these shut ins and friendless anti social people to get a sense of community and for them to make friends.

Bullied people also need an alternative way to deal with bullies cause going on a shooting spree is not the answer. The bullies need to be punished and people need to encourage fighting back not being a passive pussy.

this whole deflection to bullying as the problem is lame af and just comes from the myth that the two columbine shooters were pushed to the edge by their classmates when in reality they were bullies themselves
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

You can disagree with the stance of the Parkland kids, that's not a crime.

Getting mad at them for taking a stand for their beliefs, though, holy shit.

MUH 2ND AMENDMENT! STOP USING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT TO TALK ABOUT MY 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

like wat

do you like the constitution or not

Got 'em!!!
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Oh won't someone please think of the guns?!
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what I hate seeing from all the middle-aged trump supporters I have on facebook is sharing that dumb "Walk Up instead of a Walk Out" bs
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Offworlder1 posted...

They are angry at the wrong thing is the problem, they should be bitching the police and feds out for failing to stop this nutcase.

this
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

it's not always that they were bullied wtf

is this just the #alllivesmatter of gun debates

Well people here aren't gonna deflect to video games lol
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people are mad that the kids are being taken seriously. being shot at doesn't mean they know all the ways of the world and laws. yea they may have some points but I think the media is giving them too much of a platform. I keep seeing CNN do interviews with these random 15 year olds and treating them like wise political experts. listen to what they say, but the kids can't control the world. and their opinions should just be a side consideration in the debate.

Yes, Republicans tend to value guns over human life, extensively
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George Soros paid them all off!!!!!!
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some appeals to emotion ITT
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

You can disagree with the stance of the Parkland kids, that's not a crime.

Getting mad at them for taking a stand for their beliefs, though, holy shit.

MUH 2ND AMENDMENT! STOP USING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT TO TALK ABOUT MY 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

like wat

do you like the constitution or not

I dont get what youre saying here. Youre bringing up amendments and the Constitution, but only one side is actively trying to infringe the other sides rights. The students are speaking their mind and that is great. Keep in mind that their freedom of speech isnt being attacked just because some people are critical of them.
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The thing is. Our conservatives have always been this crazy. Its only because of social media we really understand how crazy they actually are. Its too late to stop it. Its a massive cultural issue.
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MakoReizei posted...

some appeals to emotion ITT

You don't know what that means
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Keep in mind that their freedom of speech isnt being attacked just because some people are critical of them.

That's where you're missing what I'm talking about.

People can say the kids don't have the right idea or propose alternate solutions, that's all well and good. There ARE people attacking their free speech, though, by saying these kids shouldn't be speaking or be heard.
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MakoReizei posted...

some appeals to emotion ITT

hows intro to logic going
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@FrisbeeDude
@hortanz

Are you going to ignore the point I brought up about the police and FBI knowing about this guy and not doing a thing about it ?

Should the police ans feds failing to enforce the laws we already have be ignored just cause people want any excuse to try banning guns ?
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hortanz posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

Its a lot of anti scocial people and people eho were bullied going off the deep end, something needs to be done to get these shut ins and friendless anti social people to get a sense of community and for them to make friends.

Bullied people also need an alternative way to deal with bullies cause going on a shooting spree is not the answer. The bullies need to be punished and people need to encourage fighting back not being a passive pussy.

this whole deflection to bullying as the problem is lame af and just comes from the myth that the two columbine shooters were pushed to the edge by their classmates when in reality they were bullies themselves

Yeah. There's this misconception that school shooters were just sad kids who got picked on for being nerdy until one day they snapped and killed everyone. They typically are aggressive, mean, often racist, unclean, and generally terrible to be around.

That doesn't mean they should then just be shunned forever until they do something drastic, but it IS a sign that something is probably pretty fucking wrong at home. The onus should then be on the adults at the school to do something, to take some sort of action. I'm not remotely comfortable saying that this school shooter epidemic is because the victims weren't nice enough to the sociopath that shot them.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@FrisbeeDude
@hortanz

Are you going to ignore the point I brought up about the police and FBI knowing about this guy and not doing a thing about it ?

Should the police ans feds failing to enforce the laws we already have be ignored just cause people want any excuse to try banning guns ?

Darmik posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

They are angry at the wrong thing is the problem, they should be bitching the police and feds out for failing to stop this nutcase.

It has been stated many times the police and FBI knew he was a threat but neither of them did anything to stop him.

Guns are not the problem, the police and feds not enforcing the laws we already have is the problem.

Maybe you'd have a point if this was the only school shooting in America

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Oh so passing the buck is your response, sorry but that shit is not acceptable, if the police and feds knew but failed to do anything then they are the ones who fucked up.

Not every shooter is suspected or known about, when they do know but fail to act people should hold them accountable not blame guns.

@hortanz
@Darmik
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The police failing to intercept a shooter doesn't somehow absolve the guns role in a mass killing.
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Dude would have killed with whatever he could have, the feds and cops failing to stop someone they knew was trouble is a big fuck up om their part.

If not guns he might have used explosives or a vehicle.

@Darmik
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Offworlder1 posted...

Dude would have killed with whatever he could have, the feds and cops failing to stop someone they knew was trouble is a big fuck up om their part.

If not guns he might have used explosives or a vehicle.

If school bombings and car massacres were a common occurrence you'd see people upset about that too. But they aren't.
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Look across the pond to Britain and all the other gun free places, they make do with bombs, knives, and vehicles.

They manage to have shit loads of murder, rape, and assaults without guns just fine. Guns are a tool not some evil device that so many ignorant people make them into.

BTW drunk drivers, and texters while driving kill way more people then shooters put together yet no one is saying ban cars. At most they make some new laws but the death rates do not decrease that much nor does anything stop drunk drivers

@Darmik
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Offworlder1 posted...

Look across the pond to Britain and all the other gun free places, they make do with bombs, knives, and vehicles.

I haven't noticed any school massacres in Britain lately.
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@Darmik

Have ya heard about all the stabbings, rapes, an assaults ?, how about the high crime rates in Britain ?
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Offworlder1 posted...

@Darmik

Have ya heard about all the stabbings, rapes, an assaults ?, how about the high crime rates in Britain ?

As far as I'm aware these students are specifically protesting school massacres. Not all crime everywhere.

Besides are you talking about rates that are lower than the US anyway?
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The what about stabbings? argument is my favorite.

Find me the link of where a lone wolf murdered 17 kids with a knife before being taken down.
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