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Capn Circus 03/14/18 3:15:16 PM #1:	"Local manager Melvin Escobar says the restaurant had had problems with teenagers walking out without paying. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/03/14/ihop-maine-black-teenagers-pay-upfront/ --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:897797644] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>"Local manager Melvin Escobar says the restaurant had had problems with teenagers walking out without paying. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/03/14/ihop-maine-black-teenagers-pay-upfront/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 03/14/18 3:16:15 PM #2:	smh --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:897797714] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 03/14/18 3:16:31 PM #3:	Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh. --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:897797727] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RainblowDash 03/14/18 3:17:28 PM #4:	They spot a trend and wanted to do something about it. --- Ryzen 7 1700X - Sapphire RX Vega 64 - ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Samsung 960 EVO 500gb - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16gb - Silverstone SX700 700W <cite>RainblowDash posted [p:897797797] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>They spot a trend and wanted to do something about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 03/14/18 3:17:51 PM #5:	Why is a waitress making this type of decision --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:897797825] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Why is a waitress making this type of decision</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/14/18 3:19:40 PM #6:	Statistics, confirmation bias, personal experiences, I'm just throwing out words because gamefaqs hates the spirit of free speech. Feel free to infer whatever you want. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897797945] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Statistics, confirmation bias, personal experiences, I'm just throwing out words because gamefaqs hates the spirit of free speech. Feel free to infer whatever you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 03/14/18 3:20:10 PM #7:	Squall28 posted... Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh. yeah i've literally never understood why the standard is "consume first, pay later." https://www.quora.com/Why-do-restaurants-have-you-pay-after-youve-eaten-vs-before-you-begin-the-meal this is the closest explanation i could find but damn it's long --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (0-0): https://i.imgur.com/7cjNtgQ.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:897797979] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh.</quote> yeah i've literally never understood why the standard is "consume first, pay later." https://www.quora.com/Why-do-restaurants-have-you-pay-after-youve-eaten-vs-before-you-begin-the-meal this is the closest explanation i could find but damn it's long</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 03/14/18 3:20:22 PM #8:	MacadamianNut3 posted... Why is a waitress making this type of decision Because the wait staff tend to get penalized for it --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:897797989] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is a waitress making this type of decision</quote> Because the wait staff tend to get penalized for it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/14/18 3:20:55 PM #9:	I've never been a fan of rolling consequences from one person's actions onto other, unrelated people. They may have had problems with teens dining and dashing, but unless it was these teens specifically they should not be treated differently from other customers. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:897798022] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>I've never been a fan of rolling consequences from one person's actions onto other, unrelated people. They may have had problems with teens dining and dashing, but unless it was these teens specifically they should not be treated differently from other customers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 03/14/18 3:21:59 PM #10:	Squall28 posted... MacadamianNut3 posted... Why is a waitress making this type of decision Because the wait staff tend to get penalized for it It was a good strategy I hope it worked out for her --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:897798109] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is a waitress making this type of decision</quote> Because the wait staff tend to get penalized for it</quote> It was a good strategy I hope it worked out for her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 03/14/18 3:23:35 PM #11:	MacadamianNut3 posted... Why is a waitress making this type of decision Why is it a big deal for an employee to take some initiative? One of my friends went out to eat when he had a broken arm, and the waiter made the decision to ask the kitchen to cut his steak for him and he appreciated it. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:897798221] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is a waitress making this type of decision</quote> Why is it a big deal for an employee to take some initiative? One of my friends went out to eat when he had a broken arm, and the waiter made the decision to ask the kitchen to cut his steak for him and he appreciated it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UrCa1988 03/14/18 3:23:38 PM #12:	Muffinz0rz posted... Squall28 posted... Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh. yeah i've literally never understood why the standard is "consume first, pay later." https://www.quora.com/Why-do-restaurants-have-you-pay-after-youve-eaten-vs-before-you-begin-the-meal this is the closest explanation i could find but damn it's long Well, one of the more obvious reasons is they may try to find ways to add more stuff to your order. Finish dinner and the first thing they'll ask is "would you like anything for dessert?" and start laying out specials. You buy that dessert, maybe you want a coffee with it, maybe they upsell you to a cappuccino, etc. By the end of it you're paying more than you thought you would because you never got a look at the check. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." <cite>UrCa1988 posted [p:897798225] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh.</quote> yeah i've literally never understood why the standard is "consume first, pay later." https://www.quora.com/Why-do-restaurants-have-you-pay-after-youve-eaten-vs-before-you-begin-the-meal this is the closest explanation i could find but damn it's long</quote> Well, one of the more obvious reasons is they may try to find ways to add more stuff to your order. Finish dinner and the first thing they'll ask is "would you like anything for dessert?" and start laying out specials. You buy that dessert, maybe you want a coffee with it, maybe they upsell you to a cappuccino, etc. By the end of it you're paying more than you thought you would because you never got a look at the check.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/14/18 3:23:57 PM #13:	MacadamianNut3 posted... Why is a waitress making this type of decision She's probably tired of being stiffed on the tip and dine-n-dashed by teens. And blacks. And black teens. She's also likely to suffer the consequences in some way for an unpaid bill. Being yelled at, reduced hours, "why didn't you watch them" etc etc etc Of course she doesn't have the "power" to make the decision. It's obviously against IHOPs policy, against that store's policy, and that manager's policy. But it's not impossible to see why service workers "go rogue" in some situations. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897798244] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is a waitress making this type of decision</quote> She's probably tired of being stiffed on the tip and dine-n-dashed by teens. And blacks. And black teens. She's also likely to suffer the consequences in some way for an unpaid bill. Being yelled at, reduced hours, "why didn't you watch them" etc etc etc Of course she doesn't have the "power" to make the decision. It's obviously against IHOPs policy, against that store's policy, and that manager's policy. But it's not impossible to see why service workers "go rogue" in some situations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 03/14/18 3:25:44 PM #14:	Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:897798360] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 03/14/18 3:26:51 PM #15:	Its one thing to tell the manager to watch that table closely because theyve had issues with teenagers, but its another thing to actively tell your customers youre profiling them. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:897798421] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Its one thing to tell the manager to watch that table closely because theyve had issues with teenagers, but its another thing to actively tell your customers youre profiling them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/14/18 3:29:54 PM #16:	FrisbeeDude posted... Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd Or . . . tell them not to do it again and don't piss away money because you have to retrain new employees. In what world is people losing their jobs over minor, frivolous shit a better option? "Someone did something I don't like? I'm going to infer racial motivations, cry fopr their jobs, and try to get them to collect social benefits!" --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897798588] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> Or . . . tell them not to do it again and don't piss away money because you have to retrain new employees. In what world is people losing their jobs over minor, frivolous shit a better option? "Someone did something I don't like? I'm going to infer racial motivations, cry fopr their jobs, and try to get them to collect social benefits!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/14/18 3:31:39 PM #17:	FrisbeeDude posted... Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd Do you think it is fucking absurd for a store to lock up its black hair care products and not its white ones if the former is stolen at a higher rate? <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897798682] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> Do you think it is fucking absurd for a store to lock up its black hair care products and not its white ones if the former is stolen at a higher rate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iron jojo 03/14/18 3:37:50 PM #18:	eston posted... I've never been a fan of rolling consequences from one person's actions onto other, unrelated people. They may have had problems with teens dining and dashing, but unless it was these teens specifically they should not be treated differently from other customers. So...every law --- vickfan-chucky they hated Jesus homie chuckyhacks-who teh hell is "jesus homie" <cite>iron jojo posted [p:897799103] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I've never been a fan of rolling consequences from one person's actions onto other, unrelated people. They may have had problems with teens dining and dashing, but unless it was these teens specifically they should not be treated differently from other customers.</quote> So...every law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 03/14/18 3:42:23 PM #19:	FrisbeeDude posted... Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd You're being short sighted over something that would actually decrease racism. It's possible that some of the customers in IHOP are racists. If the waitress had the black teenagers pay up front, then the racist customers would have no reason to look at the black teenagers suspiciously (and thus improving race relations on the whole). --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:897799377] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> You're being short sighted over something that would actually decrease racism. It's possible that some of the customers in IHOP are racists. If the waitress had the black teenagers pay up front, then the racist customers would have no reason to look at the black teenagers suspiciously (and thus improving race relations on the whole).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 03/14/18 3:46:24 PM #20:	iron jojo posted... So...every law Help me out here because I want to make sure I'm not misreading this and thinking you just made some stupid as fuck comparison You're suggesting that this policy should be applied to every customer and not some random teenagers, right? Especially given the effort that has gone into US laws to try to curb all forms of discrimination I'm just wondering this after reading the post about hair products --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:897799602] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>iron jojo posted...</cite> <quote>So...every law</quote> Help me out here because I want to make sure I'm not misreading this and thinking you just made some stupid as fuck comparison You're suggesting that this policy should be applied to every customer and not some random teenagers, right? Especially given the effort that has gone into US laws to try to curb all forms of discrimination I'm just wondering this after reading the post about hair products</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
assassingriskel 03/14/18 3:52:10 PM #21:	Are we shocked the vast majority of people are racists that's just a fact --- "Never trust a women"-Nobliss Gordon Mobile Suit Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans episode 17 <cite>assassingriskel posted [p:897799978] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Are we shocked the vast majority of people are racists that's just a fact</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iron jojo 03/14/18 3:55:36 PM #22:	MacadamianNut3 posted... iron jojo posted... So...every law Help me out here because I want to make sure I'm not misreading this and thinking you just made some stupid as fuck comparison You're suggesting that this policy should be applied to every customer and not some random teenagers, right? Especially given the effort that has gone into US laws to try to curb all forms of discrimination I'm just wondering this after reading the post about hair products Not sure how you came to that conclusion. --- vickfan-chucky they hated Jesus homie chuckyhacks-who teh hell is "jesus homie" <cite>iron jojo posted [p:897800165] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iron jojo posted...</cite> <quote>So...every law</quote> Help me out here because I want to make sure I'm not misreading this and thinking you just made some stupid as fuck comparison You're suggesting that this policy should be applied to every customer and not some random teenagers, right? Especially given the effort that has gone into US laws to try to curb all forms of discrimination I'm just wondering this after reading the post about hair products</quote> Not sure how you came to that conclusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 03/14/18 3:56:48 PM #23:	iron jojo posted... Not sure how you came to that conclusion I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, that's how --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:897800228] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>iron jojo posted...</cite> <quote>Not sure how you came to that conclusion</quote> I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, that's how</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 03/14/18 3:59:32 PM #24:	iron jojo posted... eston posted... I've never been a fan of rolling consequences from one person's actions onto other, unrelated people. They may have had problems with teens dining and dashing, but unless it was these teens specifically they should not be treated differently from other customers. So...every law He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:897800398] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>iron jojo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I've never been a fan of rolling consequences from one person's actions onto other, unrelated people. They may have had problems with teens dining and dashing, but unless it was these teens specifically they should not be treated differently from other customers.</quote> So...every law</quote> He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pick4six 03/14/18 4:06:43 PM #25:	So fucked up, happened at Dennys too. --- Bitcoin! <cite>pick4six posted [p:897800795] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>So fucked up, happened at Dennys too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/14/18 4:07:43 PM #26:	GiftedACIII posted... He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:897800858] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them</quote> This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/14/18 4:11:06 PM #27:	eston posted... GiftedACIII posted... He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads. Sounds like a fun topic, what's the 2 sentences or less on that? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897801087] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them</quote> This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads.</quote> Sounds like a fun topic, what's the 2 sentences or less on that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeanAuryn 03/14/18 4:15:13 PM #28:	If theres a problem, it needs to be resolved. I fail to see the problem. --- I love beautiful skinny pale White, Asian and Arab cis-women, especially their clean bare feet, and the high I get from their aroma. <cite>DeanAuryn posted [p:897801337] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>If theres a problem, it needs to be resolved. I fail to see the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/14/18 4:16:41 PM #29:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... eston posted... GiftedACIII posted... He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads. Sounds like a fun topic, what's the 2 sentences or less on that? It was this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-surrey-39514900 --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:897801421] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them</quote> This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads.</quote> Sounds like a fun topic, what's the 2 sentences or less on that?</quote> It was this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-surrey-39514900</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 03/14/18 4:19:58 PM #30:	DifferentialEquation posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd You're being short sighted over something that would actually decrease racism. It's possible that some of the customers in IHOP are racists. If the waitress had the black teenagers pay up front, then the racist customers would have no reason to look at the black teenagers suspiciously (and thus improving race relations on the whole). Wow, that sounds pretty progressive --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:897801620] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> You're being short sighted over something that would actually decrease racism. It's possible that some of the customers in IHOP are racists. If the waitress had the black teenagers pay up front, then the racist customers would have no reason to look at the black teenagers suspiciously (and thus improving race relations on the whole).</quote> Wow, that sounds pretty progressive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 03/14/18 4:20:54 PM #31:	Squall28 posted... Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh. This --- "Always remember, son, even though you are the perfect candidate for brainwashing in this town, you're also too pure and good-hearted to be corrupted" <cite>EverDownward posted [p:897801663] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/14/18 4:31:31 PM #32:	eston posted... It was this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-surrey-39514900 Seems like a non-issue really. Maybe they could do better, maybe not tipping off sex predators when they search online, I don't know the best solution but getting b hurt over either side seems ridiculous. That said, it shouldn't require a police investigation every time an adult male is with a minor. That ridiculous. Hotels though, special cases I guess? Ehhhh --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897802275] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It was this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-surrey-39514900</quote> Seems like a non-issue really. Maybe they could do better, maybe not tipping off sex predators when they search online, I don't know the best solution but getting b hurt over either side seems ridiculous. That said, it shouldn't require a police investigation every time an adult male is with a minor. That ridiculous. Hotels though, special cases I guess? Ehhhh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 03/14/18 4:34:49 PM #33:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... eston posted... GiftedACIII posted... He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads. Sounds like a fun topic, what's the 2 sentences or less on that? Topic ID is 76342288 . It's on that site. As usual, he's pulling out the weasel words again. What he's doing is justifying profiling since the man had did nothing suspicious. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:897802468] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>He is literally lying out his ass. He supported the hotel who accused single dads of being pedophiles for having their daughters with them</quote> This is not true at all and I think you severely misunderstood my position on that. At no point in that topic did I advocate profiling single dads.</quote> Sounds like a fun topic, what's the 2 sentences or less on that?</quote> Topic ID is 76342288 . It's on that site. As usual, he's pulling out the weasel words again. What he's doing is justifying profiling since the man had did nothing suspicious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/14/18 4:43:14 PM #34:	GiftedACIII posted... Topic ID is 76342288 . It's on that site. As usual, he's pulling out the weasel words again. What he's doing is justifying profiling since the man had did nothing suspicious. Feel free to read through it yourself and you'll see that you are mischaracterizing my argument. Also, the article doesn't say what the staff found suspicious. The fact that there aren't loads of other instances of this indicates that they weren't actually profiling, unless you believe that fathers and daughters travelling together is a super rare thing. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:897802998] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Topic ID is 76342288 . It's on that site. As usual, he's pulling out the weasel words again. What he's doing is justifying profiling since the man had did nothing suspicious.</quote> Feel free to read through it yourself and you'll see that you are mischaracterizing my argument. Also, the article doesn't say what the staff found suspicious. The fact that there aren't loads of other instances of this indicates that they weren't actually profiling, unless you believe that fathers and daughters travelling together is a super rare thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/14/18 4:43:57 PM #35:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... That said, it shouldn't require a police investigation every time an adult male is with a minor. I agree, and that does not appear to have been the case anyway --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:897803042] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>That said, it shouldn't require a police investigation every time an adult male is with a minor.</quote> I agree, and that does not appear to have been the case anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 03/14/18 4:48:11 PM #36:	on a related but unrelated note, restaurants should start offering take-in. Where you call in your order, they tell you how long it's going to take to make, then you show up, and eat it there i wouldn't do it, but some random person might like it --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:897803306] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>on a related but unrelated note, restaurants should start offering take-in. Where you call in your order, they tell you how long it's going to take to make, then you show up, and eat it there i wouldn't do it, but some random person might like it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 03/14/18 4:51:14 PM #37:	DifferentialEquation posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd You're being short sighted over something that would actually decrease racism. It's possible that some of the customers in IHOP are racists. If the waitress had the black teenagers pay up front, then the racist customers would have no reason to look at the black teenagers suspiciously (and thus improving race relations on the whole). Subject black folks to second class treatment to make white people feel more comfortable... This, folks, is going full CE --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:897803489] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> You're being short sighted over something that would actually decrease racism. It's possible that some of the customers in IHOP are racists. If the waitress had the black teenagers pay up front, then the racist customers would have no reason to look at the black teenagers suspiciously (and thus improving race relations on the whole).</quote> Subject black folks to second class treatment to make white people feel more comfortable... This, folks, is going full CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 03/14/18 4:51:43 PM #38:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Statistics, confirmation bias, personal experiences, I'm just throwing out words because gamefaqs hates the spirit of free speech. Feel free to infer whatever you want. Yet the IHOP's in black neighborhoods and mixed neighborhoods NEVER single out and ask blacks to pay before being served. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:897803524] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Statistics, confirmation bias, personal experiences, I'm just throwing out words because gamefaqs hates the spirit of free speech. Feel free to infer whatever you want.</quote> Yet the IHOP's in black neighborhoods and mixed neighborhoods NEVER single out and ask blacks to pay before being served.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 03/14/18 4:52:02 PM #39:	DeanAuryn posted... If theres a problem, it needs to be resolved. I fail to see the problem. Racists rarely do --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:897803547] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>If theres a problem, it needs to be resolved. I fail to see the problem.</quote> Racists rarely do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1286 03/14/18 4:55:32 PM #40:	Did they have the money to pay? --- Hi <cite>Medz1286 posted [p:897803761] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Did they have the money to pay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 03/14/18 4:58:17 PM #41:	Medz1286 posted... Did they have the money to pay? Common sense would dictate that they did. (Looks at who asked the question) Nevermind...... --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:897803933] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1286 posted...</cite> <quote>Did they have the money to pay?</quote> Common sense would dictate that they did. (Looks at who asked the question) Nevermind......</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1286 03/14/18 5:03:42 PM #42:	Bishop9800 posted... Medz1286 posted... Did they have the money to pay? Common sense would dictate that they did. (Looks at who asked the question) Nevermind...... Did they pay or walk out? --- Hi <cite>Medz1286 posted [p:897804291] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1286 posted...</cite> <quote>Did they have the money to pay?</quote> Common sense would dictate that they did. (Looks at who asked the question) Nevermind......</quote> Did they pay or walk out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 03/14/18 5:05:36 PM #43:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd In what world is people losing their jobs over minor, frivolous shit a better option? "Someone did something I don't like? I'm going to infer racial motivations, cry fopr their jobs, and try to get them to collect social benefits!" you don't get to decide this for anybody. people like you can't figure this out even if your jobs depended on it. keep your racial, sexual orientated, gender, etc... biases at home where it belongs, lolololol. it's 2018 and nobody should be shocked that lacking the ability to check yourself can often cost your position at an establishment that feels like you misrepresent them. time to grow up. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:897804416] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote> Fire everyone who had to do with this call being made. It's fucking absurd</quote> In what world is people losing their jobs over minor, frivolous shit a better option? "Someone did something I don't like? I'm going to infer racial motivations, cry fopr their jobs, and try to get them to collect social benefits!"</quote> you don't get to decide this for anybody. people like you can't figure this out even if your jobs depended on it. keep your racial, sexual orientated, gender, etc... biases at home where it belongs, lolololol. it's 2018 and nobody should be shocked that lacking the ability to check yourself can often cost your position at an establishment that feels like you misrepresent them. time to grow up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeanAuryn 03/14/18 5:10:08 PM #44:	FrisbeeDude posted... DeanAuryn posted... If theres a problem, it needs to be resolved. I fail to see the problem. Racists rarely do Why are you implying Im racist? --- I love beautiful skinny pale White, Asian and Arab cis-women, especially their clean bare feet, and the high I get from their aroma. <cite>DeanAuryn posted [p:897804703] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>If theres a problem, it needs to be resolved. I fail to see the problem.</quote> Racists rarely do</quote> Why are you implying Im racist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 03/14/18 5:10:27 PM #45:	Why are black teens not paying at higher rates than other races? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:897804723] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>Why are black teens not paying at higher rates than other races?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/14/18 5:11:28 PM #46:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... you don't get to decide this for anybody. Well actually, when stuff makes it to court, that's pretty much the point of "jury of your peers". Keep your racial, sexual orientated, gender, etc... biases at home where it belongs, lolololol. Many states, including the Feds don't consider orientation a protected class. Wrong again buck'o. it's 2018 Oh is it? So you're argument doesn't work if it's 2020? 1920? It's not independent of the context of the year? and nobody should be shocked Nor is anyone. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897804789] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>you don't get to decide this for anybody.</quote> Well actually, when stuff makes it to court, that's pretty much the point of "jury of your peers". <quote>Keep your racial, sexual orientated, gender, etc... biases at home where it belongs, lolololol.</quote> Many states, including the Feds don't consider orientation a protected class. Wrong again buck'o. <quote>it's 2018</quote> Oh is it? So you're argument doesn't work if it's 2020? 1920? It's not independent of the context of the year? <quote>and nobody should be shocked</quote> Nor is anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 03/14/18 5:13:51 PM #47:	Squall28 posted... Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh. this, though. it's silly to assume everybody is going to have the financial capability to eat, and teens are more likely to do silly things due to underdeveloped frontal lobes. kids will be kids. charge everybody up front. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:897804934] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Restaurants should have everyone pay up front tbh.</quote> this, though. it's silly to assume everybody is going to have the financial capability to eat, and teens are more likely to do silly things due to underdeveloped frontal lobes. kids will be kids. charge everybody up front.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 03/14/18 5:13:58 PM #48:	The Admiral posted... Why are black teens not paying at higher rates than other races? Please show me where it says that black teen are not paying for their food. I would like to see the numbers for this. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:897804944] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Why are black teens not paying at higher rates than other races?</quote> Please show me where it says that black teen are not paying for their food. I would like to see the numbers for this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/14/18 5:15:53 PM #49:	I'm just confused what Anarchys claim about free speech has to do with anything. Came out of nowhere. Even funnier because 90% of the topics on free speech are not free speech issues. Still baffeling how people think free speech is the ability to say anything, anytime, anywhere/on any platform. On topic it's pretty messed up. There's many ways you could have addressed this issue without going for the lazy and rude route. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:897805046] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote>I'm just confused what Anarchys claim about free speech has to do with anything. Came out of nowhere. Even funnier because 90% of the topics on free speech are not free speech issues. Still baffeling how people think free speech is the ability to say anything, anytime, anywhere/on any platform. On topic it's pretty messed up. There's many ways you could have addressed this issue without going for the lazy and rude route.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 03/14/18 5:15:54 PM #50:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... you don't get to decide this for anybody. Well actually, when stuff makes it to court, that's pretty much the point of "jury of your peers". Keep your racial, sexual orientated, gender, etc... biases at home where it belongs, lolololol. Many states, including the Feds don't consider orientation a protected class. Wrong again buck'o. it's 2018 Oh is it? So you're argument doesn't work if it's 2020? 1920? It's not independent of the context of the year? and nobody should be shocked Nor is anyone. try again when you recognize context, nuance and have the integrity to not be obtuse. literally said nothing. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:897805049] in IHOP apolo... [t:76415395]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> you don't get to decide this for anybody.</quote> Well actually, when stuff makes it to court, that's pretty much the point of "jury of your peers". <quote> Keep your racial, sexual orientated, gender, etc... biases at home where it belongs, lolololol.</quote> Many states, including the Feds don't consider orientation a protected class. Wrong again buck'o. <quote> it's 2018</quote> Oh is it? So you're argument doesn't work if it's 2020? 1920? It's not independent of the context of the year? <quote> and nobody should be shocked</quote> Nor is anyone.</quote> try again when you recognize context, nuance and have the integrity to not be obtuse. literally said nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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