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coolcono
03/13/18 3:36:01 PM
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I don't think they should. He was a victim of bullying and ostrazation.
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NOM
03/13/18 3:36:22 PM
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Sounds good to me.
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DeanAuryn
03/13/18 3:36:58 PM
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Isnt he under 18?
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3khc
03/13/18 3:37:33 PM
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Make him work to society's benefit.
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MangaFan462
03/13/18 3:38:34 PM
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DarthAragorn
03/13/18 3:38:58 PM
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I'm generally against it but yeah that's probably fair
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Tupacrulez
03/13/18 3:39:24 PM
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This is not how you react to being bullied.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/13/18 3:39:43 PM
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prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.
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pkmnlord
03/13/18 3:40:08 PM
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I say do it just so he can reunite with his mother. I'm not saying that was the sole thing wrong with him, but I could totally understand losing my mom and being completely unhinged after that (minus being a gun nut and whatever else).

Dude's never going to be accepted back into society anyway, just be done with him and be done with this.
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Antifar
03/13/18 3:40:40 PM
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As much as I may loathe this guy, I don't support the death penalty
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 3:41:44 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Can people stop saying that. Its not true
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OctilIery
03/13/18 3:41:55 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Cheaper for the public too, and let's psychiatrists talk to him and possibly learn something helpful.
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 3:43:23 PM
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pkmnlord posted...
I say do it just so he can reunite with his mother. I'm not saying that was the sole thing wrong with him, but I could totally understand losing my mom and being completely unhinged after that (minus being a gun nut and whatever else).

Dude's never going to be accepted back into society anyway, just be done with him and be done with this.

Fuck that sorry ass excuse. Lost both my parents before i was 19. My mom to a drunk driver & my dad to cancer.
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Darklit_Minuet
03/13/18 3:45:26 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Cheaper for the public too, and let's psychiatrists talk to him and possibly learn something helpful.

You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face
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OctilIery
03/13/18 3:46:02 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
OctilIery posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Cheaper for the public too, and let's psychiatrists talk to him and possibly learn something helpful.

You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face

Yes, let's completely throw our laws out the window for this one case.
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Antifar
03/13/18 3:46:08 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process
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UnfairRepresent
03/13/18 3:46:24 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Cheaper for the public too, and let's psychiatrists talk to him and possibly learn something helpful.

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Darklit_Minuet
03/13/18 3:46:47 PM
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Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.
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Zikten
03/13/18 3:47:10 PM
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he was 19. also he was adopted. he had problems. I think he was just waiting for him parents to die to do this. he didn't want to do with them alive to see. he needs to be in ansylum like Arkham where he can be studied. we should build an Arkham and put all mass shooters there.
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OctilIery
03/13/18 3:47:49 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

Protip: if you don't apply the law to everyone equally then innocent people fall through the cracks.
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 3:47:56 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
OctilIery posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Cheaper for the public too, and let's psychiatrists talk to him and possibly learn something helpful.

You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face

Yes, let's completely throw our laws out the window for this one case.


Its funny darklit often saysn killing anyone is disgusting blah blah blah
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 3:48:42 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

Protip: if you don't apply the law to everyone equally then innocent people fall through the cracks.


Protip : he has no grounds on an appeal
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Darklit_Minuet
03/13/18 3:49:00 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

Protip: if you don't apply the law to everyone equally then innocent people fall through the cracks.

Then apply this law equally. For anyone who has a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt, give them appeals. For those that don't such as killers caught in the act, don't.
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Axiom
03/13/18 3:50:34 PM
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Meh. I don't care either way. Life or death penalty he's never going to be a free man again
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OctilIery
03/13/18 3:50:35 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

Protip: if you don't apply the law to everyone equally then innocent people fall through the cracks.


Protip : he has no grounds on an appeal


Literally everyone convicted of a crime has grounds for an appeal.
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Tyranthraxus
03/13/18 3:50:48 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

He wouldn't be appealing guilt. He'd be appealing the nature of the death sentence itself.

Appeals regarding doubt tend to involve things like "blah blah sentenced to death because of a bunch of DNA and fingerprint evidence" but otherwise nothing else. Fingerprints and DNA aren't quite as reliable as people think they are. It's easy for DNA to end up in suspicious places and fingerprints show false identities all the time.
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The Admiral
03/13/18 3:50:56 PM
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I'm on board with this.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/13/18 3:51:54 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Can people stop saying that. Its not true


what about my post is not true?

obviously he is going to die. so you're saying you don't think spending 50 years rotting in prison and then dying is worse than just dying? if the stage after death, whatever that may be, lasts for eternity, the end result is the same.
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OctilIery
03/13/18 3:53:02 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

Protip: if you don't apply the law to everyone equally then innocent people fall through the cracks.

Then apply this law equally. For anyone who has a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt, give them appeals. For those that don't such as killers caught in the act, don't.

Not how it works.
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Darklit_Minuet
03/13/18 3:56:43 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
OctilIery posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You know what would be cheaper? Shooting him in the face


Not after an appeals process

Why bother with an appeals process if we know for a fact he did it?

Appeals should be used when there's even a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt. There isn't in this case.

Protip: if you don't apply the law to everyone equally then innocent people fall through the cracks.

Then apply this law equally. For anyone who has a 0.00001% chance of reasonable doubt, give them appeals. For those that don't such as killers caught in the act, don't.

Not how it works.

So make it work this way. Problem solved.

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Link HT
03/13/18 3:56:54 PM
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I'm against the death penalty by principle, he should do time and repay his debt to society.

Then again, the prison system in the US is abysmal so you might as well shoot him in the face
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Kombucha
03/13/18 3:57:03 PM
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i'm entirely against the death penalty.

also...

Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment.


but i think prison should be more about total rehabilitation rather than punishment beyond loss of freedom.
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The Admiral
03/13/18 3:57:28 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Cheaper for the public too


Liberals spent years adding red tape to the appeals process and making it as expensive and inefficient as possible to execute someone, and now bizarrely use that cost itself as an excuse against the death penalty. The death penalty does not have to be more expensive than life in prison.

But even if it does cost more, I still want to see Cruz executed.
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Offworlder1
03/13/18 3:59:55 PM
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He should be used as a test subject in a lab somewhere.
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 4:00:16 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Can people stop saying that. Its not true


what about my post is not true?

obviously he is going to die. so you're saying you don't think spending 50 years rotting in prison and then dying is worse than just dying? if the stage after death, whatever that may be, lasts for eternity, the end result is the same.


Prison for life is worst than the death penalty
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Anarchy_Juiblex
03/13/18 4:01:10 PM
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Kill him, mistakenly put him in general population, I don't fucking care. His life is without value.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
03/13/18 4:02:08 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Prison for life is worst than the death penalty


If this were true, bleeding heart pussies wouldn't constantly say it while decrying the death penalty as barbaric, inhumane, etc etc etc.

What a fucking nonsense claim.
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DifferentialEquation
03/13/18 4:03:48 PM
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He should be tortured for a few years at least.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/13/18 4:03:51 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Liberals spent years adding red tape to the appeals process


"liberals", give me a fucking break dude. you're good to discuss with until you drop partisan fuckery like this.

it was because it was determined through very hard evidence that we got some of those wrong and executed innocent people. you can't take back an execution but you can release someone from prison.
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Antifar
03/13/18 4:04:15 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Liberals spent years adding red tape to the appeals process and making it as expensive and inefficient as possible to execute someone,

To be clear, the appeals process is so extensive because otherwise innocent people would be killed. We have seen people exonerated after decades spent on death row because of how exhaustive the appeals process is. You can say your opposition to this is on cost and efficiency grounds, but the practical effect of increasing this efficiency is increasing the likelihood of wrongfully killing people.
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Ganon19
03/13/18 4:04:18 PM
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Just let him rot in Florence
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Giant_Aspirin
03/13/18 4:04:38 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Can people stop saying that. Its not true


what about my post is not true?

obviously he is going to die. so you're saying you don't think spending 50 years rotting in prison and then dying is worse than just dying? if the stage after death, whatever that may be, lasts for eternity, the end result is the same.


Prison for life is worst than the death penalty


but at the end of being in prison for life the person dies, so the end result is identical, right?
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Yazarogi
03/13/18 4:04:58 PM
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He wants to act like an adult, he should face said consequences. Death penalty is not cruel and unusual punishment in this regard, furthermore it should be done by firing squad.
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GiftedACIII
03/13/18 4:13:09 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Can people stop saying that. Its not true


what about my post is not true?

obviously he is going to die. so you're saying you don't think spending 50 years rotting in prison and then dying is worse than just dying? if the stage after death, whatever that may be, lasts for eternity, the end result is the same.


Prison for life is worst than the death penalty


but at the end of being in prison for life the person dies, so the end result is identical, right?

Not in the process of doing so. Billions of resources like food, clothing, electricity, plumbing, medical attention (all which can be used for the homeless and law abiding citizens suffering in poverty or due to diseases) and the risk of them injuring guards and other staff members, all wasted on someone who is only a detriment to society. Logically speaking, they should just be euthanized like a braindead or terminally ill person. It's only because of emotion that they're kept alive.
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 4:19:19 PM
#48:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Prison for life is worst than the death penalty


If this were true, bleeding heart pussies wouldn't constantly say it while decrying the death penalty as barbaric, inhumane, etc etc etc.

What a fucking nonsense claim.


Its not true. Death penalty is worse. Its why basically every criminal tries to avoid it. Lol they cop pleas to avoid it and appeal it all the time
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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 4:20:17 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
prison for life with no chance of parole is a harsher punishment. either way, he's gonna die, might as well punish him for a while before.

Can people stop saying that. Its not true


what about my post is not true?

obviously he is going to die. so you're saying you don't think spending 50 years rotting in prison and then dying is worse than just dying? if the stage after death, whatever that may be, lasts for eternity, the end result is the same.


Prison for life is worst than the death penalty


but at the end of being in prison for life the person dies, so the end result is identical, right?


End result is the same but i rather not give this guy any days above ground where he can find happiness
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Lorenzo_2003
03/13/18 4:24:45 PM
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Zikten posted...
he needs to be in ansylum like Arkham where he can be studied. we should build an Arkham and put all mass shooters there.


You know Arkhams big flaw is that its a maximum security prison, masquerading as a mental hospital, that the most dangerous criminals always seem to be able to break out of, right? Im convinced its DCs satire of the earnest efforts of mental health and law enforcement professionals to cure the mentally deranged, which often ends in total failure to prevent the victimization of societys non-criminal population.

Link HT posted...
I'm against the death penalty by principle, he should do time and repay his debt to society.


Unfortunately, I dont think any of us can ever agree on what that (i.e. debt) means exactly. I mean, what do you think is the value of a student or teachers life?
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