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iPhone_7 03/09/18 7:57:54 PM #1:	It all started when an Oakland police sergeant stopped by Hasta Muerte Coffee in the Fruitvale District to introduce himself and to buy a cup. But the sergeant was denied service. According to a letter sent to the cafe by the Oakland police union, cafe staff told the sergeant that it "does not serve the police. Obviously, this is both a surprise and a matter of concern for all Oakland police officers." "I don't think it's fair - they should," said Mildred Jelks of Oakland. "They're protecting them. If somebody breaks in there, who are they gonna call? The police." But Tenaya Gunter Brown, also an Oakland resident, disagreed. "I think that if a group of people don't feel safe with a police officer currently on duty, coming into a space, they want people in this neighborhood to be able to feel safe, coming into their space. then that is a choice they should be able to make." http://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-cafe-wont-serve-cops Thisll be good. puts down chair --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:897501590] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><quote>It all started when an Oakland police sergeant stopped by Hasta Muerte Coffee in the Fruitvale District to introduce himself and to buy a cup. But the sergeant was denied service. According to a letter sent to the cafe by the Oakland police union, cafe staff told the sergeant that it "does not serve the police. Obviously, this is both a surprise and a matter of concern for all Oakland police officers." "I don't think it's fair - they should," said Mildred Jelks of Oakland. "They're protecting them. If somebody breaks in there, who are they gonna call? The police." But Tenaya Gunter Brown, also an Oakland resident, disagreed. "I think that if a group of people don't feel safe with a police officer currently on duty, coming into a space, they want people in this neighborhood to be able to feel safe, coming into their space. then that is a choice they should be able to make."</quote> http://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-cafe-wont-serve-cops Thisll be good. puts down chair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 03/09/18 7:58:40 PM #2:	taaag --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:897501635] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>taaag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 03/09/18 7:59:09 PM #3:	Time for the citizens of Oakland to put those bastards out of business. Criminals are reading that and already planning their score because the cops wont help them out. --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:897501665] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>Time for the citizens of Oakland to put those bastards out of business. Criminals are reading that and already planning their score because the cops wont help them out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeanAuryn 03/09/18 7:59:17 PM #4:	Their business their right. --- I love beautiful pale White, Asian and Arab cis-women, especially their clean bare feet, and the high I get from their aroma. <cite>DeanAuryn posted [p:897501671] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>Their business their right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nevershine 03/09/18 7:59:27 PM #5:	--- "There are no men like me. There's only me."-Jaime Lannister https://m.imgur.com/fpLYQa3 <cite>nevershine posted [p:897501681] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 03/09/18 8:00:55 PM #6:	It's a worker-owned collective with a decidedly anti-establishment bent. A mural and utility box outside the cafe decriy fatal police shootings and law enforcement militarization. fucking awesome --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:897501755] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>It's a worker-owned collective with a decidedly anti-establishment bent. A mural and utility box outside the cafe decriy fatal police shootings and law enforcement militarization. fucking awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:01:55 PM #7:	DeanAuryn posted... Their business their right. This. If they're not discriminating against a protected class, let them do whatever they want. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:897501815] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Their business their right.</quote> This. If they're not discriminating against a protected class, let them do whatever they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/09/18 8:03:10 PM #8:	southcoast09 posted... Criminals are reading that and already planning their score because the cops wont help them out. I mean, doesn't that sort of validate their protest then if the police are that petty? --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:897501891] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Criminals are reading that and already planning their score because the cops wont help them out. </quote> I mean, doesn't that sort of validate their protest then if the police are that petty?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/09/18 8:05:18 PM #9:	It's their right to deny them service and the cops are still required to protect them. I, personally, would have just gave them decaf when they ordered regular tbh --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:897502012] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>It's their right to deny them service and the cops are still required to protect them. I, personally, would have just gave them decaf when they ordered regular tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:06:08 PM #10:	iPhone_7 posted... "I think that if a group of people don't feel safe with a police officer currently on duty, coming into a space, they want people in this neighborhood to be able to feel safe, coming into their space. then that is a choice they should be able to make." this actually seems fair to me. idk how smart it is, but it seems fair <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897502054] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>"I think that if a group of people don't feel safe with a police officer currently on duty, coming into a space, they want people in this neighborhood to be able to feel safe, coming into their space. then that is a choice they should be able to make."</quote> this actually seems fair to me. idk how smart it is, but it seems fair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nevershine 03/09/18 8:06:11 PM #11:	Smashingpmkns posted... It's their right to deny them service and the cops are still required to protect them. I, personally, would have just gave them decaf when they ordered regular tbh You MONSTER!! --- "There are no men like me. There's only me."-Jaime Lannister https://m.imgur.com/fpLYQa3 <cite>nevershine posted [p:897502059] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>It's their right to deny them service and the cops are still required to protect them. I, personally, would have just gave them decaf when they ordered regular tbh</quote> You MONSTER!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 03/09/18 8:06:48 PM #12:	Fairest of nexts. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:897502100] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>Fairest of nexts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:06:48 PM #13:	It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897502101] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 03/09/18 8:07:42 PM #14:	fair; next and if the cops dont do their jobs lock em up --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:897502140] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>fair; next and if the cops dont do their jobs lock em up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:08:01 PM #15:	Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy Prejudice based on immutable facts vs prejudice based on horrible choices people make. You can't hate someone for being born white. You can't hate someone for being born black. You can hate someone for joining an armed gang Seems like a really clear line. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:897502165] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy </quote> Prejudice based on immutable facts vs prejudice based on horrible choices people make. You can't hate someone for being born white. You can't hate someone for being born black. You can hate someone for joining an armed gang Seems like a really clear line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:08:01 PM #16:	Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy if a gun is in a room with me, my chances of getting shot go up by a lot <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897502166] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> if a gun is in a room with me, my chances of getting shot go up by a lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 03/09/18 8:08:29 PM #17:	"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:897502196] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:09:12 PM #18:	RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897502238] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 03/09/18 8:09:14 PM #19:	Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy how can you discriminate against an undercover officer --- I'm a sex machine ready to reload... when's sig emoji support thinking face emoji <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:897502241] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> how can you discriminate against an undercover officer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:11:05 PM #20:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy Prejudice based on immutable facts vs prejudice based on horrible choices people make. You can't hate someone for being born white. You can't hate someone for being born black. You can hate someone for joining an armed gang Seems like a really clear line. Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897502334] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy </quote> Prejudice based on immutable facts vs prejudice based on horrible choices people make. You can't hate someone for being born white. You can't hate someone for being born black. You can hate someone for joining an armed gang Seems like a really clear line.</quote> Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 03/09/18 8:11:43 PM #21:	Darklit_Minuet posted... DeanAuryn posted... Their business their right. This. If they're not discriminating against a protected class, let them do whatever they want. It might be her right... but it's still dumb. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:897502373] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Their business their right.</quote> This. If they're not discriminating against a protected class, let them do whatever they want.</quote> It might be her right... but it's still dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 03/09/18 8:12:39 PM #22:	RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" "thx for proving us right coppers!" --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:897502417] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> "thx for proving us right coppers!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 03/09/18 8:12:52 PM #23:	Paper_Okami posted... It's a worker-owned collective with a decidedly anti-establishment bent. lmao can't wait to see these snowflake workers run their place into bankruptcy within a couple months --- https://i.imgtc.com/C6jP02v.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/UAGNJFv.gif https://i.imgtc.com/cBTnWgf.png https://i.imgtc.com/wdjM3F8.png <cite>FL81 posted [p:897502432] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>It's a worker-owned collective with a decidedly anti-establishment bent.</quote> lmao can't wait to see these snowflake workers run their place into bankruptcy within a couple months</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:12:58 PM #24:	Freddie_Mercury posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy how can you discriminate against an undercover officer The same way you do against a half black man that has very dominant white traits. You don't know so you can't let your prejudice flourish at that moment. --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897502438] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Freddie_Mercury posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> how can you discriminate against an undercover officer </quote> The same way you do against a half black man that has very dominant white traits. You don't know so you can't let your prejudice flourish at that moment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:14:43 PM #25:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:897502532] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. </quote> No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 03/09/18 8:15:19 PM #26:	Their call but it isn't the call I'd make. Hardly seems reasonable to me. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:897502568] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>Their call but it isn't the call I'd make. Hardly seems reasonable to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 03/09/18 8:15:27 PM #27:	Honestly, who cares? There's so many places to get coffee it's not even funny. Shit, gas station coffee is usually free. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:897502577] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, who cares? There's so many places to get coffee it's not even funny. Shit, gas station coffee is usually free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 03/09/18 8:15:29 PM #28:	Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy You'll notice with 2010's liberals that they're only really against prejudice or mass generalizations when it's one of their protected groups. If it's not they either ignore it or outright support it. Maybe I just didn't see it back then but it makes me really long for where the left was in the 2000's where liberals at least TRIED to be consistent in their thinking. --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:897502578] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> You'll notice with 2010's liberals that they're only really against prejudice or mass generalizations when it's one of their protected groups. If it's not they either ignore it or outright support it. Maybe I just didn't see it back then but it makes me really long for where the left was in the 2000's where liberals at least TRIED to be consistent in their thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 03/09/18 8:17:17 PM #29:	FrenchCrunch posted... RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt If the coffee shop doesn't want the police around, then what right do the police have to show up whenever a crime occurs there? The shop can obviously handle its own issues without the need for "unsafe" police presence. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:897502675] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt</quote> If the coffee shop doesn't want the police around, then what right do the police have to show up whenever a crime occurs there? The shop can obviously handle its own issues without the need for "unsafe" police presence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:17:28 PM #30:	YourDrunkFather posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy You'll notice with 2010's liberals that they're only really against prejudice or mass generalizations when it's one of their protected groups. If it's not they either ignore it or outright support it. Maybe I just didn't see it back then but it makes me really long for where the left was in the 2000's where liberals at least TRIED to be consistent in their thinking. i dunno it just seems like a harmless store policy. maybe they or their customers dont want guns in the shop <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897502680] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> You'll notice with 2010's liberals that they're only really against prejudice or mass generalizations when it's one of their protected groups. If it's not they either ignore it or outright support it. Maybe I just didn't see it back then but it makes me really long for where the left was in the 2000's where liberals at least TRIED to be consistent in their thinking.</quote> i dunno it just seems like a harmless store policy. maybe they or their customers dont want guns in the shop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:18:13 PM #31:	Paragon21XX posted... FrenchCrunch posted... RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt If the coffee shop doesn't want the police around, then what right do the police have to show up whenever a crime occurs there? The shop can obviously handle its own issues without the need for "unsafe" police presence. that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897502721] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt</quote> If the coffee shop doesn't want the police around, then what right do the police have to show up whenever a crime occurs there? The shop can obviously handle its own issues without the need for "unsafe" police presence.</quote> that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:18:49 PM #32:	FrenchCrunch posted... that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them No they don't http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:897502755] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote>that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them </quote> No they don't http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 03/09/18 8:19:23 PM #33:	DeanAuryn posted... Their business their right. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:897502789] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Their business their right.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:19:42 PM #34:	Darklit_Minuet posted... FrenchCrunch posted... that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them No they don't http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html oh wow that's pretty bad. what the heck <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897502810] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote>that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them </quote> No they don't http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html</quote> oh wow that's pretty bad. what the heck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 03/09/18 8:19:56 PM #35:	Paragon21XX posted... FrenchCrunch posted... RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt If the coffee shop doesn't want the police around, then what right do the police have to show up whenever a crime occurs there? The shop can obviously handle its own issues without the need for "unsafe" police presence. If the cops refuse to do their job then they should refund the tax used for their paychecks. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:897502828] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote> "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" </quote> if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt</quote> If the coffee shop doesn't want the police around, then what right do the police have to show up whenever a crime occurs there? The shop can obviously handle its own issues without the need for "unsafe" police presence.</quote> If the cops refuse to do their job then they should refund the tax used for their paychecks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 03/09/18 8:22:42 PM #36:	FrenchCrunch posted... YourDrunkFather posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy You'll notice with 2010's liberals that they're only really against prejudice or mass generalizations when it's one of their protected groups. If it's not they either ignore it or outright support it. Maybe I just didn't see it back then but it makes me really long for where the left was in the 2000's where liberals at least TRIED to be consistent in their thinking. i dunno it just seems like a harmless store policy. maybe they or their customers dont want guns in the shop If they did their policy would probably state as such instead of iPhone_7 posted... it "does not serve the police --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:897502998] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how all this stuff against racism is going on but it's cool to be prejudice against all cops because of a minority of bad ones. No prejudice is acceptable because then you have to start fighting over where the line is. It's just a waste of energy</quote> You'll notice with 2010's liberals that they're only really against prejudice or mass generalizations when it's one of their protected groups. If it's not they either ignore it or outright support it. Maybe I just didn't see it back then but it makes me really long for where the left was in the 2000's where liberals at least TRIED to be consistent in their thinking.</quote> i dunno it just seems like a harmless store policy. maybe they or their customers dont want guns in the shop</quote> If they did their policy would probably state as such instead of <cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>it "does not serve the police</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 03/09/18 8:24:03 PM #37:	YourDrunkFather posted... If they did their policy would probably state as such instead of ok, so maybe the customers or staff dont feel safe around police officers, who all carry guns <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:897503079] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote>If they did their policy would probably state as such instead of </quote> ok, so maybe the customers or staff dont feel safe around police officers, who all carry guns</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 03/09/18 8:27:20 PM #38:	FrenchCrunch posted... RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt But if they did show up it would cause the customers and employees to feel uncomfortable which is why they refuse to serve cops in the first place. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:897503241] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt</quote> But if they did show up it would cause the customers and employees to feel uncomfortable which is why they refuse to serve cops in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:28:47 PM #39:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed Fair enough. Im not gonna comment on anything Canada cause like most Americans I have no idea what's going on there. --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897503322] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. </quote> No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed</quote> Fair enough. Im not gonna comment on anything Canada cause like most Americans I have no idea what's going on there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:29:48 PM #40:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed Fair enough. Im not gonna comment on anything Canada cause like most Americans I have no idea what's going on there. Yeah. Most of my hate of US cops stems from my love of Canadian cops. Our cops aren't threatening. Our cops don't kill over a thousand people a year. If your cops were more like ours, your citizens wouldn't be terrified of them. And until they reform, they shouldn't be treated like a force for good. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:897503374] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. </quote> No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed</quote> Fair enough. Im not gonna comment on anything Canada cause like most Americans I have no idea what's going on there.</quote> Yeah. Most of my hate of US cops stems from my love of Canadian cops. Our cops aren't threatening. Our cops don't kill over a thousand people a year. If your cops were more like ours, your citizens wouldn't be terrified of them. And until they reform, they shouldn't be treated like a force for good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 03/09/18 8:30:09 PM #41:	HiddenLurker posted... FrenchCrunch posted... RE_expert44 posted... "Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable" if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt But if they did show up it would cause the customers and employees to feel uncomfortable which is why they refuse to serve cops in the first place. Exactly, so the store's pretty much screwed in that scenario. Might as well put a "This is a police-free zone: Violators will face severe federal state and local criminal penalties" sign by their entrance. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:897503396] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>HiddenLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>"Help someone's robbing my store!" "Don't worry, we will send officers once all customers and staff are cleared out of the building. We don't want to make anyone uncomfortable"</quote> if the cops are that petty then the coffee shop is in the right. some other guy said it itt</quote> But if they did show up it would cause the customers and employees to feel uncomfortable which is why they refuse to serve cops in the first place.</quote> Exactly, so the store's pretty much screwed in that scenario. Might as well put a "This is a police-free zone: Violators will face severe federal state and local criminal penalties" sign by their entrance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel 03/09/18 8:34:47 PM #42:	I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course --- My therapist says Im lousy in bed http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg <cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted [p:897503619] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 03/09/18 8:35:59 PM #43:	FrenchCrunch posted... YourDrunkFather posted... If they did their policy would probably state as such instead of ok, so maybe the customers or staff dont feel safe around police officers, who all carry guns Oh ya, they must have specifically said police officers because they really meant "people who carry guns". Yep. Sounds logical. --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:897503681] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote>If they did their policy would probably state as such instead of </quote> ok, so maybe the customers or staff dont feel safe around police officers, who all carry guns</quote> Oh ya, they must have specifically said police officers because they really meant "people who carry guns". Yep. Sounds logical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 03/09/18 8:36:28 PM #44:	Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:897503715] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote>I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course </quote> I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 03/09/18 8:37:15 PM #45:	I just watched a documentary about the Oakland police actually, they're so understaffed that if you call the police there's a pretty good chance they WON'T come. Some people were complaining about it in a town hall meeting to the chief, and he basically said "well it's between two murders or your house getting robbed. So we have to go to the murders" scary place to live --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:897503760] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote>I just watched a documentary about the Oakland police actually, they're so understaffed that if you call the police there's a pretty good chance they WON'T come. Some people were complaining about it in a town hall meeting to the chief, and he basically said "well it's between two murders or your house getting robbed. So we have to go to the murders" scary place to live</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:37:39 PM #46:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed Fair enough. Im not gonna comment on anything Canada cause like most Americans I have no idea what's going on there. Yeah. Most of my hate of US cops stems from my love of Canadian cops. Our cops aren't threatening. Our cops don't kill over a thousand people a year. If your cops were more like ours, your citizens wouldn't be terrified of them. And until they reform, they shouldn't be treated like a force for good. I admit some of my uncomfortableness is caused by the news (this actually caused a very vivid dream where I was gunned down by a confused cop. I woke up sweating) but the rest is cause I sometimes walk around or ride with stuff Im not suppose to have >_>. I haven't been stopped by a cop in over 5 years. I have had my ID ran when riding with others --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897503777] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Cops are the armed gang? Im uncomfortable around cops myself but Im trying to deal with that by becoming mentally stronger instead of trying to create a bubble to live in. You been around people with guns. The only difference is when it's a cop you know about it. </quote> No I haven't. I live in Canada. We don't walk around armed</quote> Fair enough. Im not gonna comment on anything Canada cause like most Americans I have no idea what's going on there.</quote> Yeah. Most of my hate of US cops stems from my love of Canadian cops. Our cops aren't threatening. Our cops don't kill over a thousand people a year. If your cops were more like ours, your citizens wouldn't be terrified of them. And until they reform, they shouldn't be treated like a force for good.</quote> I admit some of my uncomfortableness is caused by the news (this actually caused a very vivid dream where I was gunned down by a confused cop. I woke up sweating) but the rest is cause I sometimes walk around or ride with stuff Im not suppose to have >_>. I haven't been stopped by a cop in over 5 years. I have had my ID ran when riding with others</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:38:13 PM #47:	A_Good_Boy posted... Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up. That's even more prejudice >_> --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897503812] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote>I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course </quote> I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up.</quote> That's even more prejudice >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 03/09/18 8:38:52 PM #48:	Lost_All_Senses posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up. That's even more prejudice >_> What white guy's can't clean? --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:897503850] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote>I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course </quote> I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up.</quote> That's even more prejudice >_></quote> What white guy's can't clean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/09/18 8:39:40 PM #49:	HiddenLurker posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up. That's even more prejudice >_> What white guy's can't clean? This has nothing to do with race...I hope you actually knew that. --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:897503896] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>HiddenLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote>I dont feel safe with a police officer here If danger happens, who you going to call The police of course </quote> I don't feel comfortable hanging around janitors but when there's a mess I'll still call one to clean up.</quote> That's even more prejudice >_></quote> What white guy's can't clean?</quote> This has nothing to do with race...I hope you actually knew that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 03/09/18 8:39:56 PM #50:	FrenchCrunch posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... FrenchCrunch posted... that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them No they don't http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html oh wow that's pretty bad. what the heck its a legitimately horrible decision. that same court of "justices" also decided corporations are people. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:897503908] in Coffee sho... [t:76399264]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrenchCrunch posted...</cite> <quote>that's not true. police still gotta protect the people regardless of whether or not the people like them </quote> No they don't http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html</quote> oh wow that's pretty bad. what the heck</quote> its a legitimately horrible decision. that same court of "justices" also decided corporations are people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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