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AlBundy33
03/08/18 2:23:15 AM
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Medicine

I have ADHD, so he prescribes Wellbutrin, an anti-depressant

Uhh, Wellbutrin does not treat adhd, I dont need medicine for a made up disease
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DocileOrangeCup
03/08/18 2:23:46 AM
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Pepys Monster
03/08/18 2:24:24 AM
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Go back to him and demand Adderal.
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8-bit_Biceps
03/08/18 2:27:33 AM
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ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
03/08/18 2:28:25 AM
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I was prescribed snakes and that's working good
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kingdrake2
03/08/18 2:28:46 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Go back to him and demand Adderal.


that's abused very easily :( i don't seem to like it because it changes people in the worst way. not the best.
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Dash_Harber
03/08/18 2:29:20 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
I dont need medicine for a made up disease


Are you saying depression is made up?
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 2:29:24 AM
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8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.


Wasnt referring to ADHD as the made up illness, depression is 100% made up to sell sugar pills to gullible people
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DocileOrangeCup
03/08/18 2:29:43 AM
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Dash_Harber
03/08/18 2:30:51 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.


Wasnt referring to ADHD as the made up illness, depression is 100% made up to sell sugar pills to gullible people


Yeah, and all those countries with socialized medicine are totally just paying for these people's medicine for the yucks, huh?
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DoctorVader
03/08/18 2:30:54 AM
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Wellbutrin is very good for quitting smoking. Except under Zyban, no insurance covers it.
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 2:31:02 AM
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@kingdrake2 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
Go back to him and demand Adderal.


that's abused very easily :( i don't seem to like it because it changes people in the worst way. not the best.


Out of all the medications Ive tried, Adderall is really the only thing that actually works, and thanks to those genetic defectives, it is so hard to get
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 2:32:37 AM
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@DoctorVader posted...
Wellbutrin is very good for quitting smoking. Except under Zyban, no insurance covers it.


Which would be fine if I still smoked, but I quit years ago

People shouldnt be going to a psychiatrist to quit smoking, as a former 3 pack a day smoker, quitting isnt that hard, once you get past the 5 day mark, it isnt bad at all
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bulletproofvita
03/08/18 2:32:59 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I was prescribed snakes and that's working good

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MabusIncarnate
03/08/18 2:34:56 AM
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It's threads like this that get me suspended for a week and idk if i'm gonna go there tonight.
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lincoln002
03/08/18 2:35:23 AM
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Most psychiatric drugs are interchangeable. Well but run helps with anxiety, anxiety tends give add symptoms. He probably doesn't want to give you something that is really precise cuz it'll leave you stupider than you are already for self diagnosing yourself and not smoking weed like everyone else with wits and adhd
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8-bit_Biceps
03/08/18 2:35:47 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.


Wasnt referring to ADHD as the made up illness, depression is 100% made up to sell sugar pills to gullible people


So I'm taking sugar pills? Lol...you think they're selling sugar pills to people? LOL, they only give people sugar pills as a control in research. They're not going to sell people sugar pills. That would be against the law.
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 2:37:05 AM
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@Dash_Harber posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I dont need medicine for a made up disease


Are you saying depression is made up?


100% made up, theres a lot of made up illnesses

This is a case of pharmaceutical companies inventing problems no one has just to solve that problem

In the words of comedian Billy Gardell:

Shaky leg disease, give me a break, stop drinking Red Bull with your vodka you dick
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ImTheMacheteGuy
03/08/18 2:38:25 AM
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bulletproofvita posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I was prescribed snakes and that's working good

Oh cool


Right? Most people are like "wtf snakes omg D:" but I was like "know what? Snakes are chill. Let's do it." Never looked back and no regrets.
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DoctorVader
03/08/18 2:38:44 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
@DoctorVader posted...
Wellbutrin is very good for quitting smoking. Except under Zyban, no insurance covers it.


Which would be fine if I still smoked, but I quit years ago

People shouldnt be going to a psychiatrist to quit smoking, as a former 3 pack a day smoker, quitting isnt that hard, once you get past the 5 day mark, it isnt bad at all

I was just referring to it not being sugar pills like you implied.

However, your personal experience in quitting holds little weight because millions of people struggle, whether it be weak will or whatever, and this pill helps.

Except they make it a pain to get if you don't have depression. They make you go to a psychiatrist to get it when a regular doctor should be able to prescribe it without being diagnosed with depression or other mental illnesses.
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NES4EVER
03/08/18 2:39:25 AM
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Wait dude with adhd calls depression made up?

That's rich.
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MabusIncarnate
03/08/18 2:39:45 AM
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I guess people commit suicide out of boredom then, not depression. Makes sense.
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bulletproofvita
03/08/18 2:42:08 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
bulletproofvita posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I was prescribed snakes and that's working good

Oh cool


Right? Most people are like "wtf snakes omg D:" but I was like "know what? Snakes are chill. Let's do it." Never looked back and no regrets.

I like it. I'd totally say yes to a snake.
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MabusIncarnate
03/08/18 2:42:09 AM
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NES4EVER posted...
Wait dude with adhd calls depression made up?

That's rich.

TC doesn't have a dirty window in his house. Tongue washed to perfection.
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chill02
03/08/18 2:44:16 AM
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 2:44:26 AM
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@8-bit_Biceps posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.


Wasnt referring to ADHD as the made up illness, depression is 100% made up to sell sugar pills to gullible people


So I'm taking sugar pills? Lol...you think they're selling sugar pills to people? LOL, they only give people sugar pills as a control in research. They're not going to sell people sugar pills. That would be against the law.


Except it is not illegal, unethical? Totally, illegal? No.

And coming from the fact this snake oil salesmen I was seen by spent a grand total of 5 minutes with me, never said I had depression, but prescribed me an antidepressant saying it would help with my adhd symptoms

It doesnt do that, but okay, I just need to file a complaint with the medical board and request a new doctor
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8-bit_Biceps
03/08/18 2:44:39 AM
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"The monoamine-deficiency theory posits that the underlying pathophysiological basis of depression is a depletion of the neurotransmitters serotonin, norepinephrine or dopamine in the central nervous system. Serotonin is the most extensively studied neurotransmitter in depression."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2950973/

Depression, ADHD, and probably a lot of other diseases could be looked at from a perspective that they're just cases of people with different types of brains--types of brains that aren't as compatible with the social hierarchy as the more ambitious types of people. For instance, someone with ADHD is probably more likely to be creative because they're easily distracted and I guess interested in more stuff. I would guess that anyway. I know I think that I'm a creative type of person and I have ADD. Those neurotransmitters above are definitely correlated with happiness (serotonin) and reward (dopamine). I have a bachelor's in neurosci too. I'm not just talking out of my ass. I can certainly see why they say it can be due to a lack of this OR that one OR that one. It's not necessarily one concrete cause. Depression could probably arise from many different combinations of differences in genes (aka many different genotypes).
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IloveJesus
03/08/18 2:47:30 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
@8-bit_Biceps posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.


Wasnt referring to ADHD as the made up illness, depression is 100% made up to sell sugar pills to gullible people


So I'm taking sugar pills? Lol...you think they're selling sugar pills to people? LOL, they only give people sugar pills as a control in research. They're not going to sell people sugar pills. That would be against the law.


Except it is not illegal, unethical? Totally, illegal? No.

And coming from the fact this snake oil salesmen I was seen by spent a grand total of 5 minutes with me, never said I had depression, but prescribed me an antidepressant saying it would help with my adhd symptoms

It doesnt do that, but okay, I just need to file a complaint with the medical board and request a new doctor


I know doctors are only human, so they do get things wrong. That said, as somebody who hasn't even mastered the use of full stops, TC probably isn't in a position to be second guessing them.
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The23rdMagus
03/08/18 2:48:15 AM
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8-bit_Biceps posted...
"The monoamine-deficiency theory posits that the underlying pathophysiological basis of depression is a depletion of the neurotransmitters serotonin, norepinephrine or dopamine in the central nervous system. Serotonin is the most extensively studied neurotransmitter in depression."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2950973/

Depression, ADHD, and probably a lot of other diseases could be looked at from a perspective that they're just cases of people with different types of brains--types of brains that aren't as compatible with the social hierarchy as the more ambitious types of people. For instance, someone with ADHD is probably more likely to be creative because they're easily distracted and I guess interested in more stuff. I would guess that anyway. I know I think that I'm a creative type of person and I have ADD. Those neurotransmitters above are definitely correlated with happiness (serotonin) and reward (dopamine). I have a bachelor's in neurosci too. I'm not just talking out of my ass. I can certainly see why they say it can be due to a lack of this OR that one OR that one. It's not necessarily one concrete cause. Depression could probably arise from many different combinations of differences in genes (aka many different genotypes).

Don't muddy the issue with facts. ;)
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Dash_Harber
03/08/18 2:50:58 AM
#31:


AlBundy33 posted...
@Dash_Harber posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I dont need medicine for a made up disease


Are you saying depression is made up?


100% made up, theres a lot of made up illnesses

This is a case of pharmaceutical companies inventing problems no one has just to solve that problem

In the words of comedian Billy Gardell:

Shaky leg disease, give me a break, stop drinking Red Bull with your vodka you dick


Except all research points to the opposite and the disease has been confirmed by people who aren't part of the pharmaceutical companies and wouldn't profit from it. So yeah, probably going to take the advice of thousands of experts over one comedian.
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Pepys Monster
03/08/18 3:01:38 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
Go back to him and demand Adderal.


that's abused very easily :( i don't seem to like it because it changes people in the worst way. not the best.

Well, it is very moreish. But it seems practical. It lifts your mood, gives you focus and makes you want to do stuff. Not that I do it.
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 3:04:36 AM
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IloveJesus posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
@8-bit_Biceps posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.


Wasnt referring to ADHD as the made up illness, depression is 100% made up to sell sugar pills to gullible people


So I'm taking sugar pills? Lol...you think they're selling sugar pills to people? LOL, they only give people sugar pills as a control in research. They're not going to sell people sugar pills. That would be against the law.


Except it is not illegal, unethical? Totally, illegal? No.

And coming from the fact this snake oil salesmen I was seen by spent a grand total of 5 minutes with me, never said I had depression, but prescribed me an antidepressant saying it would help with my adhd symptoms

It doesnt do that, but okay, I just need to file a complaint with the medical board and request a new doctor


I know doctors are only human, so they do get things wrong. That said, as somebody who hasn't even mastered the use of full stops, TC probably isn't in a position to be second guessing them.


Im not an English major, I couldnt care less how my sentences are, but thanks for checking.
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8-bit_Biceps
03/08/18 3:08:14 AM
#34:


Dash_Harber posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
@Dash_Harber posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I dont need medicine for a made up disease


Are you saying depression is made up?


100% made up, theres a lot of made up illnesses

This is a case of pharmaceutical companies inventing problems no one has just to solve that problem

In the words of comedian Billy Gardell:

Shaky leg disease, give me a break, stop drinking Red Bull with your vodka you dick


Except all research points to the opposite and the disease has been confirmed by people who aren't part of the pharmaceutical companies and wouldn't profit from it. So yeah, probably going to take the advice of thousands of experts over one comedian.


I'm stealing that 'comedian' line to bash climate change deniers.
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 3:08:55 AM
#35:


@Dash_Harber posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
@Dash_Harber posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I dont need medicine for a made up disease


Are you saying depression is made up?


100% made up, theres a lot of made up illnesses

This is a case of pharmaceutical companies inventing problems no one has just to solve that problem

In the words of comedian Billy Gardell:

Shaky leg disease, give me a break, stop drinking Red Bull with your vodka you dick


Except all research points to the opposite and the disease has been confirmed by people who aren't part of the pharmaceutical companies and wouldn't profit from it. So yeah, probably going to take the advice of thousands of experts over one comedian.


I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world, so I still think it is a made up disease

Research can say whoever is paying them to conduct said research wants it to say(hint: research aint free)

Research could tell me vaccines cause autism and I wont believe it(mainly because they fucking dont)
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Rika_Furude
03/08/18 3:09:06 AM
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8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.

i have very slight adhd and have never taken medicine. while its not made up, i am dubious whenever someone thinks they need adhd medication
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Dragonblade01
03/08/18 3:10:54 AM
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Damn, TC snuck that "depression's not real" troll right in there.
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SomeonesAlt
03/08/18 3:11:38 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world

Yet you go to the doctor for ADHD medicine? Glass houses... Stones etc.
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AlBundy33
03/08/18 3:16:04 AM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world

Yet you go to the doctor for ADHD medicine? Glass houses... Stones etc.


ADHD is a real condition, depression is not

If I was going to a doctor for a made up condition, youd have a point here
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MabusIncarnate
03/08/18 3:18:37 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world

Yet you go to the doctor for ADHD medicine? Glass houses... Stones etc.


ADHD is a real condition, depression is not

If I was going to a doctor for a made up condition, youd have a point here

Aka I suffer from ADHD so it's real, but I don't suffer from depression so it isn't.

What a dumb fucking way of thinking about things. Keep on with your short attention span and not thinking you are just a dumbass, but it's a "disease."

Aren't there butterflies out your window you should be observing instead of persisting with this thread?
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8-bit_Biceps
03/08/18 3:20:40 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
8-bit_Biceps posted...
ADHD isn't made up. And this is funny, cuz I was on adderall because I have ADD, but recently switched it out for Wellbutrin. I think I'm depressed and according to this short survey my PA gave me, I am. I'm also a smoker, so Wellbutrin makes sense. I just didn't want to be on 2 medications at once.

i have very slight adhd and have never taken medicine. while its not made up, i am dubious whenever someone thinks they need adhd medication


Yeah, I'm sure there are cases out there where someone asks for some medication when they just want to get high. Maybe some people just have low standards for what they consider inattentiveness, so they see a doctor because they want to be even more productive. Same goes for depression. I always had a hunch that I was depressed for a long time, but never saw anyone about it. I always asked myself though, "What if I was depressed for a very long time and just didn't know it, like a goldfish in water that doesn't know what water is?"

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AlBundy33
03/08/18 3:21:15 AM
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@MabusIncarnate posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world

Yet you go to the doctor for ADHD medicine? Glass houses... Stones etc.


ADHD is a real condition, depression is not

If I was going to a doctor for a made up condition, youd have a point here

Aka I suffer from ADHD so it's real, but I don't suffer from depression so it isn't.

What a dumb fucking way of thinking about things. Keep on with your short attention span and not thinking you are just a dumbass, but it's a "disease."

Aren't there butterflies out your window you should be observing instead of persisting with this thread?


Ive had plenty of people tell me I was depressed, and I get depressed, but you know what happens when I get depressed? I GET THE FUCK OVER IT.
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MabusIncarnate
03/08/18 3:25:01 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
@MabusIncarnate posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world

Yet you go to the doctor for ADHD medicine? Glass houses... Stones etc.


ADHD is a real condition, depression is not

If I was going to a doctor for a made up condition, youd have a point here

Aka I suffer from ADHD so it's real, but I don't suffer from depression so it isn't.

What a dumb fucking way of thinking about things. Keep on with your short attention span and not thinking you are just a dumbass, but it's a "disease."

Aren't there butterflies out your window you should be observing instead of persisting with this thread?


Ive had plenty of people tell me I was depressed, and I get depressed, but you know what happens when I get depressed? I GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

You know what happens when I had trouble paying attention in school? I drank a cup of coffee and GOT THE FUCK OVER IT. Literally no different comparing the two by your logic. Except one is a more serious issue, and it sure isn't fucking ADHD.
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The23rdMagus
03/08/18 4:00:34 AM
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AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world, so I still think it is a made up disease

The science doesn't care what you believe.
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bulletproofvita
03/08/18 4:01:56 AM
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The23rdMagus posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world, so I still think it is a made up disease

The science doesn't care what you believe.

Like you I refuse to take meds.... Probably a bad thing.
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03/08/18 4:13:39 AM
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The23rdMagus
03/08/18 4:27:25 AM
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bulletproofvita posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
AlBundy33 posted...
I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world, so I still think it is a made up disease

The science doesn't care what you believe.

Like you I refuse to take meds.... Probably a bad thing.

Who are you addressing?
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Dash_Harber
03/08/18 4:52:28 AM
#48:


8-bit_Biceps posted...
I'm stealing that 'comedian' line to bash climate change deniers.


They totally have it coming, too.

AlBundy33 posted...

I cant imagine being so soft I need medication to deal with the world, so I still think it is a made up disease

Research can say whoever is paying them to conduct said research wants it to say(hint: research aint free)

Research could tell me vaccines cause autism and I wont believe it(mainly because they fucking dont)


Except, you know, research doesn't work the way you think it does. No one is soft for having depression. It doesn't have to do with 'dealing with the world'.

AlBundy33 posted...

Ive had plenty of people tell me I was depressed, and I get depressed, but you know what happens when I get depressed? I GET THE FUCK OVER IT.


If you're capable of getting over it, then congratulations, you don't have depression. That's, by definition, the whole fucking point.
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