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Chielz0r
03/07/18 7:49:46 AM
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Swagnificent119
03/07/18 7:50:41 AM
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BlueScum
03/07/18 7:51:27 AM
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Fuck Sweden.
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MuayThai85
03/07/18 8:03:44 AM
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@BalanceLost
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scar the 1
03/07/18 8:05:46 AM
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Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.
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NINExATExSEVEN
03/07/18 8:05:52 AM
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Remember this garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVPapAfGtLo" data-time="


The new swedes. The leaders of the country aren't even trying to hide the fact that their open borders ideology will replace the Swedes and change everything.
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CmndrHurricane
03/07/18 8:06:38 AM
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the people who did that has since been removed
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NibeIungsnarf
03/07/18 8:07:29 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.

So what you're saying is that everybody in Sweden, including the people who represent the justice system agrees this was a slip-up and are now fixing the word of the law that allowed it to happen?

Time for everyone to panic, I guess.
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FF_Redux
03/07/18 8:08:02 AM
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Yeah it's been on the news a lot, the person behind the the whole thing is an Islamic woman whatever, and she has been fired as far as I know and the whole thing has been appealed.
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scar the 1
03/07/18 8:16:01 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.

So what you're saying is that everybody in Sweden, including the people who represent the justice system agrees this was a slip-up and are now fixing the word of the law that allowed it to happen?

Time for everyone to panic, I guess.

Pretty much, yeah. Swedish courts don't have jurors, they have something similar called something like "councilmen". These are nominated by the political parties, however the purpose isn't that they should make politics, only apply the law. Anyone can be nominated to be a councilman. In the lowest court instance there is one judge and three councilmen. IIRC the higher instances have 3:2 favoring judges with law degrees and finally 5:0.
So in this case, two councilmen from the same party (I forget what BL usually calls them, they're kinda neolibs but I suppose these two were Muslim?) found the evidence weak and justified the verdict by stuff like "Women often lie about these things", "She didn't contact her in-law family before the police, that's weird", "She didn't cry while testifying in court", "He was from a better family". The judge on the case thought this was really weird but couldn't do much. And now as this has gotten attention, the party that nominated these two have really denounced the verdict, and there's been a lot of discussion about changing the system because it's a bit weird to have political parties nominating councilmen.
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Disrespector
03/07/18 8:16:45 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.

LOL TC forgot this small detail. Can't let facts get in the way of a "good" right wing talking point!
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scar the 1
03/07/18 8:17:59 AM
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Disrespector posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.

LOL TC forgot this small detail. Can't let facts get in the way of a "good" right wing talking point!

PeterSweden is a nazi clown who lives in the UK and AFAIK hasn't been to Sweden in ages. Not a very reliable source.
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Foppe
03/07/18 8:18:16 AM
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My thought is that Swedish media reacted when it happened and that heads were already rolling before youtubers started to whine about it.
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scar the 1
03/07/18 8:19:58 AM
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Foppe posted...
My thought is that Swedish media reacted when it happened and that heads were already rolling before youtubers started to whine about it.

Yeah these headlines have been going on for almost a week now.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/07/18 8:20:45 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Disrespector posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.

LOL TC forgot this small detail. Can't let facts get in the way of a "good" right wing talking point!

PeterSweden is a nazi clown who lives in the UK and AFAIK hasn't been to Sweden in ages. Not a very reliable source.

I have no clue who he is so I'm not gonna call him a nazi, but judging by this video he does seem like a typical rightwing stooge. At the end he begs for patreon donations because the mainstream media has all this money to spread their propaganda and he has none... even though throughout the video he talks about how the Swedish mainstream media picked up the story right away? And presumably agrees with him that it's horrible? He certainly didn't claim they had differing views.
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Funkydog
03/07/18 8:20:59 AM
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Look people.

All these facts you are presenting are very interesting and all.

But you are forgetting this is about MooSlims, so please get irrationally angry and start throwing things immediately.
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Foppe
03/07/18 8:22:26 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
(I forget what BL usually calls them, they're kinda neolibs but I suppose these two were Muslim?)

Both were from the Centre Party, a liberal and agrarian party.
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Stewman_Magoo
03/07/18 8:26:20 AM
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I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.

I don't understand why the hardcore Islamists pushing Sharia law are always women (Linda Sarsour is just as dedicated for making America follow Sharia law). They're aware they would be opressed to hell and back don't they?
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Chicken
03/07/18 8:27:38 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.

I don't understand why the hardcore Islamists pushing Sharia law are always women (Linda Sarsour is just as dedicated for making America follow Sharia law). They're aware they would be opressed to hell and back don't they?


Theyre basically brainwashed.
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FF_Redux
03/07/18 8:27:53 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.

I don't understand why the hardcore Islamists pushing Sharia law are always women (Linda Sarsour is just as dedicated for making America follow Sharia law). They're aware they would be opressed to hell and back don't they?


I dunno, maybe it's easier for people to get duped into it if a woman pushes that agenda.
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Foppe
03/07/18 8:28:16 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.

I don't understand why the hardcore Islamists pushing Sharia law are always women (Linda Sarsour is just as dedicated for making America follow Sharia law). They're aware they would be opressed to hell and back don't they?

Brainwashed by culture.
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scar the 1
03/07/18 8:29:42 AM
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Foppe posted...
scar the 1 posted...
(I forget what BL usually calls them, they're kinda neolibs but I suppose these two were Muslim?)

Both were from the Centre Party, a liberal and agrarian party.

Yeah but I think he usually calls them the neo-liberals. I might be wrong.
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scar the 1
03/07/18 8:30:38 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.

I don't understand why the hardcore Islamists pushing Sharia law are always women (Linda Sarsour is just as dedicated for making America follow Sharia law). They're aware they would be opressed to hell and back don't they?

These councilpersons were one man and one woman IIRC.
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Pogo_Marimo
03/07/18 8:31:50 AM
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Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.
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Foppe
03/07/18 8:35:52 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.

It is not the first time this happen, they really love to dig up stuff about Sweden
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The Great Muta 22
03/07/18 8:37:54 AM
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Well this topic was blown up pretty quick
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BlueScum
03/07/18 8:40:54 AM
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Why can't more swedes be like Ingmar Bergman or Per Ohlin?
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Chielz0r
03/07/18 9:05:55 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.


When the main stream culture becomes far left everything else is automatically labelled far right.
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Esrac
03/07/18 9:52:24 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.


You may be right about the far right propaganda, but it is a bit of a stretch to assume someone has a great grasp on the situation in a country just because they live there. People can be politically ignorant or blind to aspects of their own country.

It may be complicated in the case of Sweden in that whole Opinion Corridor phenomenon is a real thing. If it is, even if the right wingers did have something resembling a decent point about Muslim immigrants, most Swedes would hesitate to admit it.
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ROBANN_88
03/07/18 9:53:42 AM
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i don't understand why we have the nmndeman syststem.

who the hell thought it would be a good idea to put local politicians that know nothing of laws as judges in a court?
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Solar_Crimson
03/07/18 9:55:17 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Yeah AFAIK the ruling was appealed. And the people who made the ruling already got fired. Discussions are even starting about restructuring the justice system so this can't happen.

Can't let that stop right-wing Americans from talking about Muslims "taking over" Europe, though.
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ROBANN_88
03/07/18 9:55:27 AM
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and it's interesting to see an islamist extremist politician scandal that's not from MP...except for the guy from MP who then came out and supported the ruling
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scar the 1
03/07/18 9:55:55 AM
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Esrac posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.


You may be right about the far right propaganda, but it is a bit of a stretch to assume someone has a great grasp on the situation in a country just because they live there. People can be politically ignorant or blind to aspects of their own country.

It may be complicated in the case of Sweden in that whole Opinion Corridor phenomenon is a real thing. If it is, even if the right wingers did have something resembling a decent point about Muslim immigrants, most Swedes would hesitate to admit it.

Turns out the assumption was pretty sound though, considering this has been reported quite heavily by the mainstream media, some of us are from Solna, and PeterSweden is a literal troll from the UK whose modus operandi is to spread inflammatory, distorted info.
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scar the 1
03/07/18 9:56:10 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
and it's interesting to see an islamist extremist politician scandal that's not from MP...except for the guy from MP who then came out and supported the ruling

That was hilarious lmao
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masticatingman
03/07/18 9:56:45 AM
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Esrac posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.


You may be right about the far right propaganda, but it is a bit of a stretch to assume someone has a great grasp on the situation in a country just because they live there. People can be politically ignorant or blind to aspects of their own country.

It may be complicated in the case of Sweden in that whole Opinion Corridor phenomenon is a real thing. If it is, even if the right wingers did have something resembling a decent point about Muslim immigrants, most Swedes would hesitate to admit it.


With Swedish local news there is the language barrier. Unlike with America where youll always get international opinions constantly since English is so widespread.
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ROBANN_88
03/07/18 10:01:21 AM
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i was planning on making this topic myself, but was struggling with making a good title.
it would have been better than this one, though
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Esrac
03/07/18 10:08:20 AM
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masticatingman posted...
Esrac posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Kind of silly to throw around far right Swedish propaganda when we have posters from Sweden on this board who actually have an idea of what happened.


You may be right about the far right propaganda, but it is a bit of a stretch to assume someone has a great grasp on the situation in a country just because they live there. People can be politically ignorant or blind to aspects of their own country.

It may be complicated in the case of Sweden in that whole Opinion Corridor phenomenon is a real thing. If it is, even if the right wingers did have something resembling a decent point about Muslim immigrants, most Swedes would hesitate to admit it.


With Swedish local news there is the language barrier. Unlike with America where youll always get international opinions constantly since English is so widespread.


Fair enough.
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Damn_Underscore
03/07/18 10:10:00 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.


Exactly.

Imagine the reaction if a judge in the US followed Leviticus.
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scar the 1
03/07/18 10:11:59 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.


Exactly.

Imagine the reaction if a judge in the US followed Leviticus.

It's more similar to a US juror following Leviticus to be fair.
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The Admiral
03/07/18 10:14:37 AM
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Can't imagine why these nationalist movements are growing in Sweden...


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ROBANN_88
03/07/18 10:31:17 AM
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also, this isn't the first time this woman has gone off the deep end.

she spoke openly about wanting to implement Sharia laws, and that "Swedish law should adapt or have exceptions for Muslims" all the way back in the 2010 election (some sources say even 2006), and has been allowed to practice in court ever since.
who knows what kind of shit she managed to get in below the radar in that time?

the fact that Centern even let her in for so long, even though they knew what kind of person she was, speaks volumes of what kind of party they are.
now, the question is just if they did that based on willing Multiculti malevolence, or just stupidity and incompetence.
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Funkydog
03/07/18 10:33:21 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Can't imagine why these nationalist movements are growing in Sweden...


Because a woman who tried to implement it was smacked down and removed? With the law being tightened up to not allow it again?

Seems an odd thing for them to protest against.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/07/18 10:33:55 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.


Exactly.

Imagine the reaction if a judge in the US followed Leviticus.

70% of the South would cheer them on and Mike Huckabee would create a fundraiser for them.
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spudger
03/07/18 10:36:10 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...
I'm glad it got shut down, but this is scary.


Exactly.

Imagine the reaction if a judge in the US followed Leviticus.

70% of the South would cheer them on and Mike Huckabee would create a fundraiser for them.

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Foppe
03/07/18 10:36:27 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Can't imagine why these nationalist movements are growing in Sweden...


They have been growing since the 70s.
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creativerealms
03/07/18 10:37:30 AM
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Not true.
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Foppe
03/07/18 10:50:59 AM
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What is not true?
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mario2000
03/07/18 11:01:09 AM
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Chielz0r posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyiBPEXKzYQ" data-time="


Thoughts?

yes do you perhaps have a better source than "youtube video of guy with his face in the camera talking for 10 minutes"
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