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Darkman124 03/05/18 12:30:25 PM #1:	...is that to get a true 'live' number for an index performance, I'm better off searching for the ETF that tracks it than the index itself. Consider: in the last 15 minutes, the Russell 2000 fell by around a quarter percent. Looking up RUT, which tracks the index, you'd never know. It last updated at 12:13! Looking up IWM, which is an ETF that trades at the index's value, you see the decline. Obviously you can get a real live update within a trading platform...but those tend to kick you out if you idle. I should not be more reliant on derivative products than existing indexes that were designed to be informative. /rageout --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:897215376] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>...is that to get a true 'live' number for an index performance, I'm better off searching for the ETF that tracks it than the index itself. Consider: in the last 15 minutes, the Russell 2000 fell by around a quarter percent. Looking up RUT, which tracks the index, you'd never know. It last updated at 12:13! Looking up IWM, which is an ETF that trades at the index's value, you see the decline. Obviously you can get a real live update within a trading platform...but those tend to kick you out if you idle. I should not be more reliant on derivative products than existing indexes that were designed to be informative. /rageout</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Renraku_San 03/05/18 12:31:23 PM #2:	Nobody fucking cares. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! <cite>Renraku_San posted [p:897215435] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 03/05/18 12:31:48 PM #3:	Renraku_San posted... Nobody fucking cares. Posting = caring --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:897215464] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> Posting = caring</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 03/05/18 12:32:18 PM #5:	I definitely understood everything I just read Yessir --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:897215492] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>I definitely understood everything I just read Yessir</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/05/18 12:32:37 PM #6:	why would you care about live index fluctuations? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:897215508] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>why would you care about live index fluctuations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Renraku_San 03/05/18 12:33:35 PM #7:	CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... Nobody fucking cares. Posting = caring I don't care. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! <cite>Renraku_San posted [p:897215549] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> Posting = caring</quote> I don't care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 03/05/18 12:34:16 PM #8:	Renraku_San posted... CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... Nobody fucking cares. Posting = caring I don't care. I don't care that you don't care. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:897215581] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> Posting = caring</quote> I don't care.</quote> I don't care that you don't care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 03/05/18 12:34:38 PM #9:	Renraku_San posted... CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... Nobody fucking cares. Posting = caring I don't care. Posting twice = caring twice as much --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:897215599] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> Posting = caring</quote> I don't care.</quote> Posting twice = caring twice as much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 03/05/18 12:34:53 PM #10:	Does that provide an arbitrage opportunity? <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:897215610] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>Does that provide an arbitrage opportunity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 03/05/18 12:35:44 PM #11:	I used to keep Optionshouse's platform open all day and i don't think they ever kicked me out, though I believe they were bought so I don't know what the current iteration looks like. Same thing with thinkorswim --- Buffalo Bills Playoff Tracker 2017-18 Season: 9-7; drought broken! one and done see you next year <cite>theAteam posted [p:897215649] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>I used to keep Optionshouse's platform open all day and i don't think they ever kicked me out, though I believe they were bought so I don't know what the current iteration looks like. Same thing with thinkorswim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Renraku_San 03/05/18 12:36:15 PM #12:	CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... Nobody fucking cares. Posting = caring I don't care. Posting twice = caring twice as much Pretty sure I don't care about that either. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! <cite>Renraku_San posted [p:897215681] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> Posting = caring</quote> I don't care.</quote> Posting twice = caring twice as much</quote> Pretty sure I don't care about that either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 03/05/18 12:36:20 PM #13:	Solid Snake07 posted... why would you care about live index fluctuations? mostly, i don't i just think it's absurd that this information is hidden from retail investors for no reason. a functional workaround exists, and it's not hidden from sophisticated traders, but there's a very overt and seemingly intentional idiot tax built in that seems like it's designed to rip off people who don't know what they're doing. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:897215686] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>why would you care about live index fluctuations?</quote> mostly, i don't i just think it's absurd that this information is hidden from retail investors for no reason. a functional workaround exists, and it's not hidden from sophisticated traders, but there's a very overt and seemingly intentional idiot tax built in that seems like it's designed to rip off people who don't know what they're doing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 03/05/18 12:36:44 PM #14:	Renraku_San posted... CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... CableZL posted... Renraku_San posted... Nobody fucking cares. Posting = caring I don't care. Posting twice = caring twice as much Pretty sure I don't care about that either. Alright, you might be a little obsessed. Posting 3 times = caring 3 times as much --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:897215710] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Renraku_San posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody fucking cares.</quote> Posting = caring</quote> I don't care.</quote> Posting twice = caring twice as much</quote> Pretty sure I don't care about that either.</quote> Alright, you might be a little obsessed. Posting 3 times = caring 3 times as much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Renraku_San 03/05/18 12:37:22 PM #15:	Darkman124 posted... Solid Snake07 posted... why would you care about live index fluctuations? mostly, i don't i just think it's absurd that this information is hidden from retail investors for no reason. I'm a day trader - this shit is basically investing 101, you should know the answer. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! <cite>Renraku_San posted [p:897215742] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>why would you care about live index fluctuations?</quote> mostly, i don't i just think it's absurd that this information is hidden from retail investors for no reason.</quote> I'm a day trader - this shit is basically investing 101, you should know the answer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 03/05/18 12:39:14 PM #16:	never noticed that before. that is a bit absurd. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:897215835] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>never noticed that before. that is a bit absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 03/05/18 12:43:35 PM #18:	Darkman124 posted... Solid Snake07 posted... why would you care about live index fluctuations? mostly, i don't i just think it's absurd that this information is hidden from retail investors for no reason. a functional workaround exists, and it's not hidden from sophisticated traders, but there's a very overt and seemingly intentional idiot tax built in that seems like it's designed to rip off people who don't know what they're doing. I don't see it as being hidden its just time delayed. You're not technically trading the index price that is delayed anyway you would have to trade an ETF linked to its performance. It's live on TD Ameritrade since the live feeds are for those who pay for them and the free rates are delayed. So if you go through your brokerage account they likely pay for the live feed and you can get it there. If you Google it then you'll get the free delayed quote. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:897216083] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>why would you care about live index fluctuations?</quote> mostly, i don't i just think it's absurd that this information is hidden from retail investors for no reason. a functional workaround exists, and it's not hidden from sophisticated traders, but there's a very overt and seemingly intentional idiot tax built in that seems like it's designed to rip off people who don't know what they're doing.</quote> I don't see it as being hidden its just time delayed. You're not technically trading the index price that is delayed anyway you would have to trade an ETF linked to its performance. It's live on TD Ameritrade since the live feeds are for those who pay for them and the free rates are delayed. So if you go through your brokerage account they likely pay for the live feed and you can get it there. If you Google it then you'll get the free delayed quote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 03/05/18 1:09:39 PM #19:	SK8T3R215 posted... I don't see it as being hidden its just time delayed. You're not technically trading the index price that is delayed anyway you would have to trade an ETF linked to its performance. It's live on TD Ameritrade since the live feeds are for those who pay for them and the free rates are delayed. So if you go through your brokerage account they likely pay for the live feed and you can get it there. If you Google it then you'll get the free delayed quote. my complaint is the free live quote is available if you instead google the derivative that tracks the ETF. if it's that easy to quote the ETF it's just as easy to quote the index. it's a minor but illogical inconsistency unless you ascribe to the belief that the purpose of anything like this is to milk retail investors for $$$ --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:897217397] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see it as being hidden its just time delayed. You're not technically trading the index price that is delayed anyway you would have to trade an ETF linked to its performance. It's live on TD Ameritrade since the live feeds are for those who pay for them and the free rates are delayed. So if you go through your brokerage account they likely pay for the live feed and you can get it there. If you Google it then you'll get the free delayed quote. </quote> my complaint is the free live quote is available if you instead google the derivative that tracks the ETF. if it's that easy to quote the ETF it's just as easy to quote the index. it's a minor but illogical inconsistency unless you ascribe to the belief that the purpose of anything like this is to milk retail investors for $$$</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 03/05/18 1:36:41 PM #20:	Darkman124 posted... SK8T3R215 posted... I don't see it as being hidden its just time delayed. You're not technically trading the index price that is delayed anyway you would have to trade an ETF linked to its performance. It's live on TD Ameritrade since the live feeds are for those who pay for them and the free rates are delayed. So if you go through your brokerage account they likely pay for the live feed and you can get it there. If you Google it then you'll get the free delayed quote. my complaint is the free live quote is available if you instead google the derivative that tracks the ETF. if it's that easy to quote the ETF it's just as easy to quote the index. it's a minor but illogical inconsistency unless you ascribe to the belief that the purpose of anything like this is to milk retail investors for $$$ Dude you're having a melty over something very petty. Index providers don't have to provide their values live unless people pay for it. They aren't tradable they just track a basket of stocks. The ETFs that track it do because they are actively traded. I mean if you're looking to trade an index then look at the ETFs that track it since that's what you're going to trade anyway. I mean if you're trading it then your brokerage likely has the live feed of all indices already so look it up through them. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:897218923] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see it as being hidden its just time delayed. You're not technically trading the index price that is delayed anyway you would have to trade an ETF linked to its performance. It's live on TD Ameritrade since the live feeds are for those who pay for them and the free rates are delayed. So if you go through your brokerage account they likely pay for the live feed and you can get it there. If you Google it then you'll get the free delayed quote. </quote> my complaint is the free live quote is available if you instead google the derivative that tracks the ETF. if it's that easy to quote the ETF it's just as easy to quote the index. it's a minor but illogical inconsistency unless you ascribe to the belief that the purpose of anything like this is to milk retail investors for $$$</quote> Dude you're having a melty over something very petty. Index providers don't have to provide their values live unless people pay for it. They aren't tradable they just track a basket of stocks. The ETFs that track it do because they are actively traded. I mean if you're looking to trade an index then look at the ETFs that track it since that's what you're going to trade anyway. I mean if you're trading it then your brokerage likely has the live feed of all indices already so look it up through them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/05/18 1:38:06 PM #21:	Isn't the delay primarily there to sell you a service? I know most trading platforms charge a premium for realtime updates. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897218993] in The most b... [t:76383163]...</cite> <quote>Isn't the delay primarily there to sell you a service? I know most trading platforms charge a premium for realtime updates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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