Current Events > At what point do "I want to die" jokes start to become warning signs?

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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:14:05 PM
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TheMarthKoopa
03/03/18 12:14:37 PM
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The first one?
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Itachi157
03/03/18 12:16:32 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
The first one?


It's some kind of trend/meme on the Internet right now to constantly make suicide jokes, jokes about hanging yourself and drinking bleach, etc
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masticatingman
03/03/18 12:17:57 PM
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Literally a common CE user just got banned for that kind of joke a few days ago so tread carefully
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 12:19:03 PM
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halomonkey1_3_5
03/03/18 12:19:11 PM
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when they stop being jokes
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:22:33 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Literally a common CE user just got banned for that kind of joke a few days ago so tread carefully

Who was that?

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
its just one girl man

? This is a hypothetical. I'm not the only person on the internet who makes these jokes so being able to identify it could be useful.

halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
when they stop being jokes

How can you tell?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 12:23:05 PM
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:23:36 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
dont do it


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deanshow
03/03/18 12:23:48 PM
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It's a call for help if it's repeated
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:24:47 PM
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deanshow posted...
It's a call for help if it's repeated

Or they just watch a lot of idubbbz.
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deanshow
03/03/18 12:26:11 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
deanshow posted...
It's a call for help if it's repeated

Or they just watch a lot of idubbbz.

I have no idea what that is
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:26:53 PM
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deanshow posted...
Vulgorn posted...
deanshow posted...
It's a call for help if it's repeated

Or they just watch a lot of idubbbz.

I have no idea what that is

You have Google. Use it.
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masticatingman
03/03/18 12:27:05 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
masticatingman posted...
Literally a common CE user just got banned for that kind of joke a few days ago so tread carefully

Who was that?

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
its just one girl man

? This is a hypothetical. I'm not the only person on the internet who makes these jokes so being able to identify it could be useful.

halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
when they stop being jokes

How can you tell?


Kamala_Harris. Not sure if the original topic is still up but this is the thread talking about the aftermath:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76371636

He did a copy paste from another board that included a throwaway suicide joke. Was also a regular on the NFL board.
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deanshow
03/03/18 12:27:40 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
deanshow posted...
Vulgorn posted...
deanshow posted...
It's a call for help if it's repeated

Or they just watch a lot of idubbbz.

I have no idea what that is

You have Google. Use it.

I'd rather you tell me, if you made the reference
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sutree
03/03/18 12:29:31 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
The first one?

There are multiple popular subreddits dedicated to this sort of ironic depressive meme "humor".
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:29:51 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Vulgorn posted...
masticatingman posted...
Literally a common CE user just got banned for that kind of joke a few days ago so tread carefully

Who was that?

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
its just one girl man

? This is a hypothetical. I'm not the only person on the internet who makes these jokes so being able to identify it could be useful.

halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
when they stop being jokes

How can you tell?


Kamala_Harris. Not sure if the original topic is still up but this is the thread talking about the aftermath:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76371636

Was also a regular on the NFL board.

Oh damn. RIP.

deanshow posted...

I'd rather you tell me, if you made the reference

Nah, I'm good.
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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/18 12:31:55 PM
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When the person clearly isn't joking.
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:34:15 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
When the person clearly isn't joking.

The point is that with this new meme the past couple of years, it's gotten increasingly more difficult to tell when they aren't. Like a boy who cried wolf situation.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 12:36:15 PM
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for a seriou answre
generally people who actually want to die won't actually say "i want to die."

there will be other warning signs, that seem more harmless

"i'm really tired of living"
"i'm so tired of everything"
"do you ever wish you could sleep forever"
"when will i stop suffering"
"sometimes i really wish i could just stop"

if they cut off contact from others over time
if they seem to be sleeping more often than usual
if you notice new habits like smoking or drugs
if they start giving their stuff away (this is a dead giveaway)
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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/18 12:36:26 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
When the person clearly isn't joking.

The point is that with this new meme the past couple of years, it's gotten increasingly more difficult to tell when they aren't. Like a boy who cried wolf situation.


Well, you should probably only get concerned when you actually know the person well enough to tell whether or not they're joking.
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:39:01 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
for a seriou answre
generally people who actually want to die won't actually say "i want to die."

there will be other warning signs, that seem more harmless

"i'm really tired of living"
"i'm so tired of everything"
"do you ever wish you could sleep forever"
"when will i stop suffering"
"sometimes i really wish i could just stop"

That's fair. I don't disagree. Though, I do think that actual depressed/suicidal people feel kind of emboldened lately because of said meme. Because of that, it makes it hard to discern.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 12:40:23 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
That's fair. I don't disagree. Though, I do think that actual depressed/suicidal people feel kind of emboldened lately because of said meme. Because of that, it makes it hard to discern.

i mean, if they're someone openly struggling with depression and anxiety, it is always worth checking up on them.

don't ignore warning signs, it may be too late when you decide to act
and nobody wants to go through that, trust me

there's nothing like someone dying and you realizing you never got the chance to say anything nice.
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:40:46 PM
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Scotty_Rogers
Well, you should probably only get concerned when you actually know the person well enough to tell whether or not they're joking.


So we should only care about suicidal people if we know them on a deep personal level?

*tsk* noice
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deanshow
03/03/18 12:41:55 PM
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You got something to tell us mate? This is a very weird topic to make
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:43:26 PM
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deanshow posted...
You got something to tell us mate? This is a very weird topic to make

Literally 90% of the topics on CE are weird topics to make. How is it weird to acknowledge the rising trend in ironic suicide memes?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 12:44:08 PM
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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/18 12:45:06 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
Scotty_Rogers
Well, you should probably only get concerned when you actually know the person well enough to tell whether or not they're joking.


So we should only care about suicidal people if we know them on a deep personal level?

*tsk* noice


Unless you actually know the person, you're not likely to know whether or not they're serious. And unless you're some kind of social worker or therapist, best not to bother.

That's not to say you should do nothing when it actually turns out that person is suicidal, but if you have no way of knowing, don't bother.
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RoboLaserGandhi
03/03/18 12:46:10 PM
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Immediately.

If you're at the point of openly joking about it instead of hiding it, you've started to take it seriously
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:46:40 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
because talking about suicide in general is another warning sign

Within certain contexts, sure. Just acknowledging it's existence is not inherently suicidal.
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 12:47:35 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Immediately.

If you're at the point of openly joking about it instead of hiding it, you've started to take it seriously

So I should take all the drinking bleach memes on Internet 100% seriously?
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DoomSwell
03/03/18 1:08:32 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Immediately.

If you're at the point of openly joking about it instead of hiding it, you've started to take it seriously

So I should take all the drinking bleach memes on Internet 100% seriously?

Not 100%, but maybe some percentage?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 1:09:17 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
because talking about suicide in general is another warning sign

Within certain contexts, sure. Just acknowledging it's existence is not inherently suicidal.

Well yeah
Except read the topic title again
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 1:12:49 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE

Well yeah
Except read the topic title again


Hey Bok, guess what. I wrote the topic title. Did I refer to myself? No, I didn't. Sorry you misinterpreted shit and can't seem to let it drop after I cleared up said misinterpretation.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 1:13:25 PM
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getting defensive about it is another sign...

i'm being honest with you
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DarkDragon400
03/03/18 1:14:20 PM
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I think the context in which the joke appears can also be relevant.
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deanshow
03/03/18 1:19:54 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Immediately.

If you're at the point of openly joking about it instead of hiding it, you've started to take it seriously

So I should take all the drinking bleach memes on Internet 100% seriously?

Since I actually know you and talk to you. Yes I'm worried. If I didn't know you I wouldn't be in this dumb topic
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 1:20:59 PM
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deanshow posted...

Since I actually know you and talk to you. Yes I'm worried. If I didn't know you I wouldn't be in this dumb topic


Hmm. Do you know and talk to me? News to me.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
03/03/18 1:22:28 PM
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 1:22:42 PM
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I know who it is.
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deanshow
03/03/18 1:23:38 PM
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You should drop this petty grudge you have against me and at least acknowledge at one point we were friends
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 1:24:33 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about
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deanshow
03/03/18 1:26:24 PM
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Do you hate yourself that much that you push away people that care for you
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 1:29:30 PM
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deanshow
03/03/18 1:30:56 PM
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Ok you can deny all that you want. That we used to be friends this is extremely childish dude
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Vulgorn
03/03/18 1:31:43 PM
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I don't remember being friends with you. No idea what you're talking about.
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Renault
03/03/18 1:35:16 PM
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who can relate woo
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deanshow
03/03/18 1:35:50 PM
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Vulgorn posted...
I don't remember being friends with you. No idea what you're talking about.

Ouch okay bud..
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