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Dampproof 03/03/18 2:01:01 AM #52:	Haters trying so hard to incite fake outrage. Keep mining that salt tho. --- "Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet." - Douglas Adams <cite>Dampproof posted [p:897089880] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Haters trying so hard to incite fake outrage. Keep mining that salt tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 03/03/18 2:04:56 AM #53:	It doesn't matter what she says or doesn't. Star Wars is probably gonna get played out from oversaturation sooner rather than later like Star Trek but 10x amplified. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:897090010] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter what she says or doesn't. Star Wars is probably gonna get played out from oversaturation sooner rather than later like Star Trek but 10x amplified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LethalAffinity 03/03/18 2:05:57 AM #54:	She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president --- http://i.imgur.com/Sv19SP4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/esZpDkI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tdtzIvW.gif http://i.imgur.com/E0O1koZ.gif <cite>LethalAffinity posted [p:897090044] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 03/03/18 2:10:29 AM #55:	LethalAffinity posted... She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:897090168] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote>She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president</quote> Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dampproof 03/03/18 2:10:39 AM #56:	LethalAffinity posted... She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president Why? She already paid Disney back in 2 years what they (Disney) paid for the entire franchise for initially. LockeMonster posted... It doesn't matter what she says or doesn't. Star Wars is probably gonna get played out from oversaturation sooner rather than later like Star Trek but 10x amplified. I am just going to add this to the list next to Marvel movies eventually going to get played out. --- "Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet." - Douglas Adams <cite>Dampproof posted [p:897090173] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote>She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president</quote> Why? She already paid Disney back in 2 years what they (Disney) paid for the entire franchise for initially. <cite>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter what she says or doesn't. Star Wars is probably gonna get played out from oversaturation sooner rather than later like Star Trek but 10x amplified.</quote> I am just going to add this to the list next to Marvel movies eventually going to get played out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LethalAffinity 03/03/18 2:13:07 AM #57:	ThanksUglyGod posted... LethalAffinity posted... She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before No it isn't. Nobody is buying the merchandise at all and TLJ is the most divisive Star Wars movie ever. --- http://i.imgur.com/Sv19SP4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/esZpDkI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tdtzIvW.gif http://i.imgur.com/E0O1koZ.gif <cite>LethalAffinity posted [p:897090243] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote>She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president</quote> Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before</quote> No it isn't. Nobody is buying the merchandise at all and TLJ is the most divisive Star Wars movie ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 03/03/18 2:23:12 AM #58:	Dampproof posted... I am just going to add this to the list next to Marvel movies eventually going to get played out. Marvel is different because there's a whole universe that has been woven since IM culminating in the eventual confrontation with Thanos. Tons of different types of superhero stories interlinking into a legit functional feeling fictional universe. To the point, they can even stand on their own now. Star Wars is just picking up after Lucas already fucked it up, and then just slinging shit on a board with different directors and agendas hoping something sticks. They're just gonna pick random points to tell stories. You have Feige taking reign over every piece of MCU work, and you have his counterpart Kennedy just giving directors free reign like Rian Johnson. That's gonna dilute it and space operas aren't exactly big outside pretty much Star Wars. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:897090511] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dampproof posted...</cite> <quote>I am just going to add this to the list next to Marvel movies eventually going to get played out.</quote> Marvel is different because there's a whole universe that has been woven since IM culminating in the eventual confrontation with Thanos. Tons of different types of superhero stories interlinking into a legit functional feeling fictional universe. To the point, they can even stand on their own now. Star Wars is just picking up after Lucas already fucked it up, and then just slinging shit on a board with different directors and agendas hoping something sticks. They're just gonna pick random points to tell stories. You have Feige taking reign over every piece of MCU work, and you have his counterpart Kennedy just giving directors free reign like Rian Johnson. That's gonna dilute it and space operas aren't exactly big outside pretty much Star Wars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 03/03/18 2:43:17 AM #59:	LethalAffinity posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... LethalAffinity posted... She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before No it isn't. Nobody is buying the merchandise at all and TLJ is the most divisive Star Wars movie ever. Star Wars has theme parks, video games, novels, comic books, TV shows, clothes, costumes, and billion-dollar grossing, highly reviewed movies. Who cares that people aren't buying as many toys? Who cares about a vocal minority when the majority of critics and general audiences really enjoyed TLJ? <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:897090933] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote>She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president</quote> Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before</quote> No it isn't. Nobody is buying the merchandise at all and TLJ is the most divisive Star Wars movie ever.</quote> Star Wars has theme parks, video games, novels, comic books, TV shows, clothes, costumes, and billion-dollar grossing, highly reviewed movies. Who cares that people aren't buying as many toys? Who cares about a vocal minority when the majority of critics and general audiences really enjoyed TLJ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 03/03/18 3:47:13 AM #60:	Dude posts a new video using information from 2016, when Rogue One hadn't even come out yet. He even gets it wrong, too. Be better, dude in OP's video. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:897092186] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Dude posts a new video using information from 2016, when Rogue One hadn't even come out yet. He even gets it wrong, too. Be better, dude in OP's video.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 03/03/18 3:59:40 AM #61:	ThanksUglyGod posted... LethalAffinity posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... LethalAffinity posted... She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before No it isn't. Nobody is buying the merchandise at all and TLJ is the most divisive Star Wars movie ever. Star Wars has theme parks, video games, novels, comic books, TV shows, clothes, costumes, and billion-dollar grossing, highly reviewed movies. Who cares that people aren't buying as many toys? Who cares about a vocal minority when the majority of critics and general audiences really enjoyed TLJ? Its definitely not a vocal minority that didnt enjoy TLJ. Its the most split up Star Wars probably ever and I havent actually met anyone in person that actually liked it. Whereas with TFA, everybody was talking about how much they liked it. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:897092426] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LethalAffinity posted...</cite> <quote>She needs to be let go as Lucasfilm president</quote> Why? Star Wars is more popular now than ever before</quote> No it isn't. Nobody is buying the merchandise at all and TLJ is the most divisive Star Wars movie ever.</quote> Star Wars has theme parks, video games, novels, comic books, TV shows, clothes, costumes, and billion-dollar grossing, highly reviewed movies. Who cares that people aren't buying as many toys? Who cares about a vocal minority when the majority of critics and general audiences really enjoyed TLJ?</quote> Its definitely not a vocal minority that didnt enjoy TLJ. Its the most split up Star Wars probably ever and I havent actually met anyone in person that actually liked it. Whereas with TFA, everybody was talking about how much they liked it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 03/03/18 7:15:36 AM #62:	--- https://imgur.com/VQfjsWf <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:897095723] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 03/03/18 7:23:53 AM #63:	Swagnificent119 posted... Did they just assume the Force's gender? --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:897095870] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Did they just assume the Force's gender?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joenage 03/03/18 7:32:47 AM #64:	action52 posted... What Kennedy actually said: I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.' What the people making these videos and articles hear: I ~~have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I~~ dont ~~feel that I have a responsibility to~~ cater ~~in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily~~ to men ~~for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.~~' Yeah I kinda figured it would be something like this Kinda sad how you guys jumped all over this topic, there's definitely some kind of anti-woman agenda on this board --- Joenage. <cite>Joenage posted [p:897096033] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>action52 posted...</cite> <quote>What Kennedy actually said: <quote>I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'</quote> What the people making these videos and articles hear: <quote>I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'</quote></quote> Yeah I kinda figured it would be something like this Kinda sad how you guys jumped all over this topic, there's definitely some kind of anti-woman agenda on this board</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 03/03/18 7:37:48 AM #65:	ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!" --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:897096113] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 03/03/18 7:49:35 AM #66:	scar the 1 posted... ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!" I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:897096345] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!"</quote> I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nazanir 03/03/18 7:52:19 AM #67:	I thought the Deathstar blew up the planet of Alderaan. --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir <cite>Nazanir posted [p:897096415] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>I thought the Deathstar blew up the planet of Alderaan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 03/03/18 8:25:23 AM #68:	TommyG663513 posted... scar the 1 posted... ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!" I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question. Incredibly genuine question :) --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:897097103] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!"</quote> I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question.</quote> Incredibly genuine question :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 03/03/18 8:27:30 AM #69:	action52 posted... What Kennedy actually said: I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.' What the people making these videos and articles hear: I ~~have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I~~ dont ~~feel that I have a responsibility to~~ cater ~~in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily~~ to men ~~for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.~~' --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:897097144] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>action52 posted...</cite> <quote>What Kennedy actually said: <quote>I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'</quote> What the people making these videos and articles hear: <quote>I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/03/18 8:35:11 AM #70:	Children Upset After Being Told Toy Isn't Just Theirs --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:897097336] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Children Upset After Being Told Toy Isn't Just Theirs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 03/03/18 9:09:08 AM #72:	Swagnificent119 posted... she will not cater to men. I don't see the problem with this I disagree that it doesn't need male fans though, that just doesn't make any sense --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:897098143] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>she will not cater to men.</quote> I don't see the problem with this I disagree that it doesn't need male fans though, that just doesn't make any sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/03/18 9:10:26 AM #73:	Also I don't need Star Wars. I only go if my friends drag me. Star Wars is basic bitch scifi. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:897098187] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Also I don't need Star Wars. I only go if my friends drag me. Star Wars is basic bitch scifi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/03/18 9:11:21 AM #74:	action52 posted... What Kennedy actually said: I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.' That.. doesn't seem bad at all tbh. Guess this is just outrage just to generate outrage. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:897098210] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>action52 posted...</cite> <quote>What Kennedy actually said: I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I dont feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, Well, this is a franchise thats appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.' </quote> That.. doesn't seem bad at all tbh. Guess this is just outrage just to generate outrage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 03/03/18 9:23:32 AM #75:	One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x demographic>". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:897098508] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x demographic>". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 03/03/18 9:53:11 AM #77:	She never said anything like that. Honestly, you guys are so sensitive, yet most of you mock feminist for acting EXACTLY how you are now. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:897099385] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>She never said anything like that. Honestly, you guys are so sensitive, yet most of you mock feminist for acting EXACTLY how you are now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 03/03/18 10:02:37 AM #78:	When was the last time Star Wars catered to men specifically anyway? Slave Leia outfit? <cite>Raikuro posted [p:897099709] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>When was the last time Star Wars catered to men specifically anyway? Slave Leia outfit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 03/03/18 10:07:37 AM #79:	scar the 1 posted... One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x> demographic". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk? I believe this outrage boils down to something similar to the outrage other groups feel about cultural appropriation. Star Wars was never specifically only for males, but the reality is that males in the 70s and 80s were the primary consumers of both the movies and related merchandise such as action figures, video games, posters, comics and novels. These nerds, if were speaking frankly, bought Star Wars, played Star Wars and lived Star Wars, going by the popular fan conventions and such. Now that ownership of Star Wars has shifted to Disney, the company is focused on broadening their customer base to young girls and women, which you can see in their T-shirts emblazoned with The Force is Female and Director J.J. Abrams admitting that they wanted the new trilogy to bring in a more female audience. This is understandable. Disney is super good at making money and they paid billions for the Star Wars franchise, so they obviously want to make that money back and more. Unfortunately, some of those male fans are either confused or frustrated that what they previously considered their domain, well, no longer is that. Marvel did the same thing by repackaging their comics to feature a woman Thor, woman Captain Marvel, woman Iron Man and so on. Personally, I dont really care and this has all just been amusing to watch unfold. Ill still watch whatever looks interesting and its not as if were being forced to buy anything. I knew Star Wars Battlefront was all style and no substance, so I didnt buy it. No outrage needed. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:897099848] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x> demographic". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk?</quote> I believe this outrage boils down to something similar to the outrage other groups feel about cultural appropriation. Star Wars was never specifically only for males, but the reality is that males in the 70s and 80s were the primary consumers of both the movies and related merchandise such as action figures, video games, posters, comics and novels. These nerds, if were speaking frankly, bought Star Wars, played Star Wars and lived Star Wars, going by the popular fan conventions and such. Now that ownership of Star Wars has shifted to Disney, the company is focused on broadening their customer base to young girls and women, which you can see in their T-shirts emblazoned with The Force is Female and Director J.J. Abrams admitting that they wanted the new trilogy to bring in a more female audience. This is understandable. Disney is super good at making money and they paid billions for the Star Wars franchise, so they obviously want to make that money back and more. Unfortunately, some of those male fans are either confused or frustrated that what they previously considered their domain, well, no longer is that. Marvel did the same thing by repackaging their comics to feature a woman Thor, woman Captain Marvel, woman Iron Man and so on. Personally, I dont really care and this has all just been amusing to watch unfold. Ill still watch whatever looks interesting and its not as if were being forced to buy anything. I knew Star Wars Battlefront was all style and no substance, so I didnt buy it. No outrage needed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 03/03/18 10:12:41 AM #80:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... scar the 1 posted... One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x> demographic". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk? I believe this outrage boils down to something similar to the outrage other groups feel about cultural appropriation. Star Wars was never specifically only for males, but the reality is that males in the 70s and 80s were the primary consumers of both the movies and related merchandise such as action figures, video games, posters, comics and novels. These nerds, if were speaking frankly, bought Star Wars, played Star Wars and lived Star Wars, going by the popular fan conventions and such. Now that ownership of Star Wars has shifted to Disney, the company is focused on broadening their customer base to young girls and women, which you can see in their T-shirts emblazoned with The Force is Female and Director J.J. Abrams admitting that they wanted the new trilogy to bring in a more female audience. This is understandable. Disney is super good at making money and they paid billions for the Star Wars franchise, so they obviously want to make that money back and more. Unfortunately, some of those male fans are either confused or frustrated that what they previously considered their domain, well, no longer is that. Marvel did the same thing by repackaging their comics to feature a woman Thor, woman Captain Marvel, woman Iron Man and so on. Personally, I dont really care and this has all just been amusing to watch unfold. Ill still watch whatever looks interesting and its not as if were being forced to buy anything. I knew Star Wars Battlefront was all style and no substance, so I didnt buy it. No outrage needed. I agree that it's understandable, I disagree that it's similar to cultural appropriation. And just because it's understandable doesn't mean it's excusable. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:897100021] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x> demographic". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk?</quote> I believe this outrage boils down to something similar to the outrage other groups feel about cultural appropriation. Star Wars was never specifically only for males, but the reality is that males in the 70s and 80s were the primary consumers of both the movies and related merchandise such as action figures, video games, posters, comics and novels. These nerds, if were speaking frankly, bought Star Wars, played Star Wars and lived Star Wars, going by the popular fan conventions and such. Now that ownership of Star Wars has shifted to Disney, the company is focused on broadening their customer base to young girls and women, which you can see in their T-shirts emblazoned with The Force is Female and Director J.J. Abrams admitting that they wanted the new trilogy to bring in a more female audience. This is understandable. Disney is super good at making money and they paid billions for the Star Wars franchise, so they obviously want to make that money back and more. Unfortunately, some of those male fans are either confused or frustrated that what they previously considered their domain, well, no longer is that. Marvel did the same thing by repackaging their comics to feature a woman Thor, woman Captain Marvel, woman Iron Man and so on. Personally, I dont really care and this has all just been amusing to watch unfold. Ill still watch whatever looks interesting and its not as if were being forced to buy anything. I knew Star Wars Battlefront was all style and no substance, so I didnt buy it. No outrage needed.</quote> I agree that it's understandable, I disagree that it's similar to cultural appropriation. And just because it's understandable doesn't mean it's excusable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/03/18 10:20:28 AM #81:	A shame to see someone like that in charge of a property like Star Wars. What is this obsession with taking away properties from males? I can understand wanting to gain a foothold or make something approachable to general audiences, but why do people look at properties where the cast and fanbase are predominantly male (Ghostbusters) and say, "Let's make this female exclusive"? What next, remakes of TV westerns with all black casts? Gotta take those dead franchises away from the dominant majority. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:897100316] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>A shame to see someone like that in charge of a property like Star Wars. What is this obsession with taking away properties from males? I can understand wanting to gain a foothold or make something approachable to general audiences, but why do people look at properties where the cast and fanbase are predominantly male (Ghostbusters) and say, "Let's make this female exclusive"? What next, remakes of TV westerns with all black casts? Gotta take those dead franchises away from the dominant majority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/03/18 10:21:54 AM #82:	FortuneCookie posted... A shame to see someone like that in charge of a property like Star Wars. A) Did you actually read with context what she said? B)scar the 1 posted... One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x demographic>". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897100380] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>FortuneCookie posted...</cite> <quote>A shame to see someone like that in charge of a property like Star Wars.</quote> A) Did you actually read with context what she said? B)<cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>One of the worst thing in the world according to many posters here is when a franchise "caters to SJWs", or "caters to <x demographic>". Shockingly, it turns out that it's not the catering that's wrong, it's just that they're not personally being catered to. Whoda thunk? </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/03/18 10:36:09 AM #83:	alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:897100913] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/03/18 10:53:42 AM #84:	darkjedilink posted... Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. "Oh no the icky women are going to ruin my space movies. they probably have cooties." --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897101565] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. </quote> "Oh no the icky women are going to ruin my space movies. they probably have cooties."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 03/03/18 11:32:19 AM #85:	darkjedilink posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. Spoilers, women are star wars fans too --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:897103070] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> Spoilers, women are star wars fans too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/03/18 11:40:12 AM #86:	darkjedilink posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. By appealing to pro-female sexist narratives. It's not quite as benign as you're making it out to be. Not as malicious either though. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:897103410] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> By appealing to pro-female sexist narratives. It's not quite as benign as you're making it out to be. Not as malicious either though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/03/18 11:42:02 AM #87:	ASithLord7 posted... darkjedilink posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. Spoilers, women are star wars fans too And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:897103491] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> Spoilers, women are star wars fans too</quote> And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 03/03/18 11:46:50 AM #88:	scar the 1 posted... TommyG663513 posted... scar the 1 posted... ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!" I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question. Incredibly genuine question :) I mean, why not sex in the city with men instead? Or how about the golden girls? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:897103690] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!"</quote> I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question.</quote> Incredibly genuine question :)</quote> I mean, why not sex in the city with men instead? Or how about the golden girls?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/03/18 11:48:22 AM #89:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... ASithLord7 posted... darkjedilink posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. Spoilers, women are star wars fans too And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way. This. Women have been Star Wars fans since the '70's, long before feminism determined women need powerful female characters in fiction to do anything of note. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:897103740] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> Spoilers, women are star wars fans too</quote> And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way.</quote> This. Women have been Star Wars fans since the '70's, long before feminism determined women need powerful female characters in fiction to do anything of note.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 03/03/18 11:49:23 AM #90:	Where does she explicitly say "Star Wars doesn't need male fans?" I want an actual source, not the video of some mouthbreather shooting the shit for 5 minutes. --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon <cite>EverDownward posted [p:897103778] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Where does she explicitly say "Star Wars doesn't need male fans?" I want an actual source, not the video of some mouthbreather shooting the shit for 5 minutes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 03/03/18 11:50:47 AM #91:	TommyG663513 posted... scar the 1 posted... TommyG663513 posted... scar the 1 posted... ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!" I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question. Incredibly genuine question :) I mean, why not sex in the city with men instead? Or how about the golden girls? You mean Entourage and Frasier? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:897103862] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: "Star Wars belongs to men! Back off women!!!"</quote> I mean, it is kind of annoying how women seem to be seizing up IPs that were initially more geared towards men. Are there even any IPs out there that primarily catered to women that you could warp to appeal to men? Would the feminists be ok with that or would it be problematic? Just a genuine question.</quote> Incredibly genuine question :)</quote> I mean, why not sex in the city with men instead? Or how about the golden girls?</quote> You mean Entourage and Frasier?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 03/03/18 12:19:13 PM #92:	EverDownward posted... Where does she explicitly say "Star Wars doesn't need male fans?" I want an actual source, not the video of some mouthbreather shooting the shit for 5 minutes. She doesnt but facts dont matter to the far right --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:897105340] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Where does she explicitly say "Star Wars doesn't need male fans?" I want an actual source, not the video of some mouthbreather shooting the shit for 5 minutes.</quote> She doesnt but facts dont matter to the far right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joenage 03/03/18 12:23:53 PM #93:	EverDownward posted... Where does she explicitly say "Star Wars doesn't need male fans?" I want an actual source, not the video of some mouthbreather shooting the shit for 5 minutes. The real quote in context has already been posted further up. The people still posting like it's real are just the kind of people who hate women because they've never got laid. --- Joenage. <cite>Joenage posted [p:897105550] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>Where does she explicitly say "Star Wars doesn't need male fans?" I want an actual source, not the video of some mouthbreather shooting the shit for 5 minutes.</quote> The real quote in context has already been posted further up. The people still posting like it's real are just the kind of people who hate women because they've never got laid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 03/03/18 12:25:30 PM #95:	darkjedilink posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... ASithLord7 posted... darkjedilink posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. Spoilers, women are star wars fans too And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way. This. Women have been Star Wars fans since the '70's, long before feminism determined women need powerful female characters in fiction to do anything of note. ...which just supports her quote? That she doesn't owe specifically male fans anything? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:897105633] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> Spoilers, women are star wars fans too</quote> And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way.</quote> This. Women have been Star Wars fans since the '70's, long before feminism determined women need powerful female characters in fiction to do anything of note.</quote> ...which just supports her quote? That she doesn't owe specifically male fans anything?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 03/03/18 12:27:40 PM #96:	TommyG663513 posted... I mean, why not sex in the city with men instead? Or how about the golden girls? I won't disagree that star wars appealed to more men than women when it started out, but there were more female fans of star wars in the 80s than there are male fans of sex and the city --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:897105733] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, why not sex in the city with men instead? Or how about the golden girls? </quote> I won't disagree that star wars appealed to more men than women when it started out, but there were more female fans of star wars in the 80s than there are male fans of sex and the city</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 03/03/18 12:30:25 PM #97:	Considering my friend was a Star Wars fan and the new movies made her lose interest in the series...I'd say Kathleen's new direction is a terrible idea. Edit: Despite her quote being horribly paraphrased, I still stand by what I said. Something went wrong that caused fans in general to lose interest in the series. I still enjoy them, but it can't be denied that it happened. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:897105876] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Considering my friend was a Star Wars fan and the new movies made her lose interest in the series...I'd say Kathleen's new direction is a terrible idea. Edit: Despite her quote being horribly paraphrased, I still stand by what I said. Something went wrong that caused fans in general to lose interest in the series. I still enjoy them, but it can't be denied that it happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/03/18 12:34:46 PM #98:	scar the 1 posted... darkjedilink posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... ASithLord7 posted... darkjedilink posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Smashingpmkns posted... I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans. Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women. Spoilers, women are star wars fans too And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way. This. Women have been Star Wars fans since the '70's, long before feminism determined women need powerful female characters in fiction to do anything of note. ...which just supports her quote? That she doesn't owe specifically male fans anything? Well yeah, but it's a statement that implies male fans are just sexists complaining about their all-male club being broken up instead of merely reacting to sexism. Like, it's pretty rare to find someone actually advocating a male-dominant Star Wars because girls are icky or whatever. They also twisted this shit around when that fan made an all-male cut of TLJ mostly to show how much more screen time women got than men just to prove a point, but then every tech/entertainment news outlet said the same thing: "THIS SEXIST FAN MADE HIS OWN ALL-MALE VERSION OF STAR WARS BECAUSE HE HATES SEEING FEMALE CHARACTERS". <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:897106076] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, she doesn't have to cater to male Star Wars fans. She just has to cater to Star Wars fans.</quote></quote> Except she doesn't want to cater to Star Wars fans. She wants to bring in new fans, specifically women.</quote> Spoilers, women are star wars fans too</quote> And they were fans long before there was any sort of girl power theme. "Bringing in female fans" is her professional excuse to flex a little sexism her way.</quote> This. Women have been Star Wars fans since the '70's, long before feminism determined women need powerful female characters in fiction to do anything of note.</quote> ...which just supports her quote? That she doesn't owe specifically male fans anything?</quote> Well yeah, but it's a statement that implies male fans are just sexists complaining about their all-male club being broken up instead of merely reacting to sexism. Like, it's pretty rare to find someone actually advocating a male-dominant Star Wars because girls are icky or whatever. They also twisted this shit around when that fan made an all-male cut of TLJ mostly to show how much more screen time women got than men just to prove a point, but then every tech/entertainment news outlet said the same thing: "THIS SEXIST FAN MADE HIS OWN ALL-MALE VERSION OF STAR WARS BECAUSE HE HATES SEEING FEMALE CHARACTERS".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 03/03/18 1:06:03 PM #100:	So she literally didn't say what this guy is saying she said? Sounds like it's time to move on and ignore this YouTuber for inciting fake outrage. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:897107591] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>So she literally didn't say what this guy is saying she said? Sounds like it's time to move on and ignore this YouTuber for inciting fake outrage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joenage 03/04/18 11:57:00 AM #101:	Wow I wonder what kind of person marked my last message?? On a sidenote the new moderation system is a joke lol --- Joenage. <cite>Joenage posted [p:897157298] in Kathleen K... [t:76374763]...</cite> <quote>Wow I wonder what kind of person marked my last message?? On a sidenote the new moderation system is a joke lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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