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Kombucha 03/02/18 10:15:36 AM #1: |
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/2/17070624/google-youtube-wilberg-recruiter-hiring-reverse-discrimination-lawsuit
A former YouTube employee has sued Google for allegedly pressuring recruiters to only look for female, black, and Hispanic or Latinx applicants. Arne Wilberg who spent nine years working at Google filed a discrimination suit in January, and The Wall Street Journal reported its existence today. Wilberg claims that Google implemented clear and irrefutable policies meant to exclude white and Asian men in an attempt to increase the companys overall diversity. He also claims that Google retaliated against him for opposing these policies, eventually firing him in November 2017. Edit: Topic title should read Google, but the recruiter worked for YouTube. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 03/02/18 10:16:13 AM #2: |
Good.
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Muffinz0rz 03/02/18 10:18:19 AM #3: |
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Good. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team: https://i.imgur.com/7cjNtgQ.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nzxt_Assassin 03/02/18 10:18:36 AM #4: |
Asian males getting fucked over AGAIN
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Bad_Mojo 03/02/18 10:19:45 AM #5: |
And there are a lot of people that fight against racism and sexism that will find nothing wrong with this.
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FLUFFYGERM 03/02/18 10:20:08 AM #6: |
That's fucked up. Hopefully the law throws the book at those recruiters.
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Rexdragon125 03/02/18 10:20:11 AM #7: |
The race of a prospective employee is more important than their qualifications, duh
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Skye Reynolds 03/02/18 10:20:14 AM #8: |
With Asian males being discriminated against, this lawsuit might stand a chance. If it were just white guys, nobody would bother with it.
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IWBYD 03/02/18 10:21:04 AM #9: |
Damn. How the fuck is a white guy supposed to get a job in Silicon Valley?
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FLUFFYGERM 03/02/18 10:24:21 AM #10: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
The race of a prospective employee is more important than their qualifications, duh Not sure if you actually believe this or if you're being sarcastic. I mean I'm leaning towards the former considering you're Rexdragon125 but I would love to accept the latter. IWBYD posted... Damn. How the fuck is a white guy supposed to get a job in Silicon Valley? You say this tongue in cheek, but the trend is undeniable - white males (including Asians) are going to have a harder and harder time finding work because of these types of recruiting practices. --- Do good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 03/02/18 10:26:18 AM #11: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
With Asian males being discriminated against, this lawsuit might stand a chance. If it were just white guys, nobody would bother with it. Will they? Most people don't give a shit about Asians. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iron jojo 03/02/18 10:26:36 AM #12: |
Good.
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Steve Nick 03/02/18 10:27:01 AM #13: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...With Asian males being discriminated against, this lawsuit might stand a chance. If it were just white guys, nobody would bother with it. Especially not since they're being grouped with white people. Guilt by association. --- This is my signature. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 03/02/18 10:27:49 AM #14: |
I'm interested in how this plays out.
If it's true and legit, I hope they get in trouble. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 03/02/18 10:29:18 AM #15: |
Hope the recruiters are fired. You have to be pretty stupid to be that blatant with racism so no loss for Google
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NeonOctopus 03/02/18 10:30:08 AM #16: |
This is why Trump won
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Esrac 03/02/18 10:30:35 AM #17: |
What I think is really telling here is that they are apparently desperately looking for qualified black or Hispanic employees, but still had a 91% white and Asian demographic.
Must not be a lot of blacks and Hispanics trained in software engineering. Apparently they're like a god damned unicorn. Unless something has significantly changed since 2014. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 03/02/18 10:31:01 AM #18: |
Good. YouTube is an absolute shit show of a company these days.
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s0nicfan 03/02/18 10:33:25 AM #19: |
Esrac posted...
What I think is really telling here is that they are apparently desperately looking for qualified black or Hispanic employees, but still had a 91% white and Asian demographic. This is the thing with STEM and other fields trying to diversify: the qualified candidates just don't exist. Companies spend an immense amount of effort doing outreach to middle and high schools to try and motivate kids to get into the field simply so they have more qualified candidates to hire, but the interest just isn't there. Rather than admit that maybe hiring practices are fair and people just have different preferences, we get shit like this were you're blatantly discriminating to try and force something that simply shouldn't be. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 03/02/18 10:36:39 AM #21: |
s0nicfan posted...
Esrac posted...What I think is really telling here is that they are apparently desperately looking for qualified black or Hispanic employees, but still had a 91% white and Asian demographic. Not sure what you're saying. I think it's fine to keep reaching out to communities for these things, but I agree, there's no need to worse your hiring practices and make it discriminatory --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 03/02/18 10:38:24 AM #22: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
Hope the recruiters are fired. You have to be pretty stupid to be that blatant with racism so no loss for Google All this will do is encourage Google and other companies to be more discrete about their anti-white and anti-Asian racism. --- Do good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 03/02/18 10:38:28 AM #23: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Good. YouTube is an absolute shit show of a company these days. Youtube is the greatest thing to ever happen to the World Web Web. It wrestled away media control from the establishment, launching the careers of many famous personalities, including Justin Beiber. There's so much content on Youtube right now that it practically acts as an Encyclopedia. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 03/02/18 10:39:27 AM #24: |
emblem boy posted...
s0nicfan posted...Esrac posted...What I think is really telling here is that they are apparently desperately looking for qualified black or Hispanic employees, but still had a 91% white and Asian demographic. We're in agreement. I'm saying the way to increase diversity in STEM is to increase interest in STEM starting around the age kids are starting to decide what they like and dislike. Forceful hiring practices that ignore the reality of who's applying are objectively bad. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 03/02/18 10:41:14 AM #25: |
emblem boy posted...
s0nicfan posted...Esrac posted...What I think is really telling here is that they are apparently desperately looking for qualified black or Hispanic employees, but still had a 91% white and Asian demographic. I don't think he ie suggesting they stop trying to get other demographics interested, so much that he saying they're wasting a lot of time and money trying to hire recruits that don't exist yet. For whatever reason, they're desperate to hire more colored employees (other than Asians, of course). But those qualified black and Hispanic hires are so rare they have to actively discriminate against all the qualified white and Asian hires just to get a few. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XHJYFL 03/02/18 10:41:42 AM #26: |
Companies should only hire the best. And if the best happen to be white and Asian men, so be it.
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Esrac 03/02/18 10:43:52 AM #28: |
Ammonitida posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...Good. YouTube is an absolute shit show of a company these days. I think you're right, but even on here, people dismiss YouTube content providers. It's weird how quick people are to shit on independent media providers. Whether it's entertainment, debate, or news personalities. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 03/02/18 10:44:45 AM #29: |
Kombucha posted...
California labor law prohibits refusing to hire employees based on characteristics like race or gender. Lol, looks like liberals should have specifically excluded white and Asian men from this. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 03/02/18 10:44:51 AM #30: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...Hope the recruiters are fired. You have to be pretty stupid to be that blatant with racism so no loss for Google As long as they follow the law Im fine. Im totally cool with recruiting at Latino or Black conferences to find more diverse applicants but you should not eliminate candidates on race ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 03/02/18 10:56:12 AM #32: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Hope the recruiters are fired. You have to be pretty stupid to be that blatant with racism so no loss for Google Let's be honest, all of these things end up turning into "eliminate candidates if they're white or Asian" --- Do good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 03/02/18 10:58:44 AM #33: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...FLUFFYGERM posted... How? Surely you can't say you have an issue with recruiters at events like those. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 03/02/18 11:00:23 AM #34: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Hope the recruiters are fired. You have to be pretty stupid to be that blatant with racism so no loss for Google Really? Because tech company I worked at recruited at both and was still under 7% black/latino ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 03/02/18 11:01:32 AM #35: |
Nice illustration of the horseshoe theory at work.
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Esrac 03/02/18 11:08:17 AM #36: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...CruelBuffalo posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Hope the recruiters are fired. You have to be pretty stupid to be that blatant with racism so no loss for Google Assuming Fluffygerm isn't entirely full of crap, that just means even if you try to eliminate white and Asian candidates, you can't find more than a few blacks and Hispanics. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 03/02/18 11:13:56 AM #37: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
With Asian males being discriminated against, this lawsuit might stand a chance. If it were just white guys, nobody would bother with it. Lmfao. Asian males are free to discriminate against. Racist remarks in media? Hilarious! Yellowface? No Asian actors (ya right...) Subtract 200 points off your SAT score? He's not smart...he's Asian. --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 03/02/18 11:19:18 AM #38: |
Ammonitida posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...Good. YouTube is an absolute shit show of a company these days. And all the questionable and greedy shit they do offsets all of that. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 03/02/18 11:24:01 AM #39: |
Esrac posted...
Assuming Fluffygerm isn't entirely full of crap, that just means even if you try to eliminate white and Asian candidates, you can't find more than a few blacks and Hispanics. This. There were like 3 women and one black guy total in all of my computer engineering courses ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zado19 03/02/18 11:26:31 AM #40: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
You say this tongue in cheek, but the trend is undeniable - white males (including Asians) are going to have a harder and harder time finding work because of these types of recruiting practices. and since job opportunities are so fucking scarce for those 2 groups (not sure why you merge white and asian...), they is going to be a truly major barrier to those two communities..... --- It shows that I know that VGCharts is a VERY accurate gauge solely of physical sales - forte ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MangaFan462 03/02/18 11:28:28 AM #41: |
Diversity quotas should be illegal
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emblem boy 03/02/18 11:29:41 AM #42: |
MangaFan462 posted...
Diversity quotas should be illegal Quotas are illegal already aren't they --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 03/02/18 11:30:21 AM #43: |
Surprising absolutely no one who read the James Damore memo
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Fony 03/02/18 11:30:24 AM #44: |
Nzxt_Assassin posted...
Asian males getting fucked over AGAIN Honorary doesn't pay. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nazanir 03/02/18 12:14:14 PM #45: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
And there are a lot of people that fight against racism and sexism that will find nothing wrong with this. Remember when people got hired on their merit? Because they were the best possible candidate for the job? Good times... --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImmortalityV 03/02/18 12:15:46 PM #46: |
NeonOctopus posted...
This is why Trump won Trump 2020 MAGAA --- -------------------------------------------------- Trump 2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 03/02/18 12:16:17 PM #47: |
Nazanir posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...And there are a lot of people that fight against racism and sexism that will find nothing wrong with this. Eh, hiring based on merit has been and still is a thing. But let's not act as if non merit hiring is some new thing that's not been in there for all of existence --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zado19 03/02/18 12:43:04 PM #49: |
Nazanir posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...And there are a lot of people that fight against racism and sexism that will find nothing wrong with this. hey i believe in qualification over colour and i have dark skin..... but can we really say that that alone is the fairest and most effective way to go for us all to get ahead? Are we also going to say that biases in the other direction dont exist suddenly??? --- It shows that I know that VGCharts is a VERY accurate gauge solely of physical sales - forte ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 03/02/18 12:45:35 PM #50: |
YouTube wants the BBC
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Esrac 03/02/18 12:45:49 PM #51: |
zado19 posted...
Nazanir posted...Bad_Mojo posted...And there are a lot of people that fight against racism and sexism that will find nothing wrong with this. The thing about meritocratic models, in which being better qualified candidates get hired, is not all of us get ahead. Leas qualified candidates get left behind. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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