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MedeaLysistrata 03/01/18 4:01:45 PM #1: |
Genuinely curious what the conservative position on this is, this isn't a "ha gotcha" attempt.
Why do so many mass shootings happen in the US but in other highly developed countries this is almost non-issue? --- let's positive thinking [this post tastes like lunch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KILBOTz 03/01/18 4:02:24 PM #2: |
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iron jojo 03/01/18 4:03:34 PM #3: |
Why do they happen so often now as opposed to years ago when there were less gun laws in place
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MedeaLysistrata 03/01/18 4:07:11 PM #5: |
KILBOTz posted...
culture decay I can see why this might cause instability (and I agree that Western culture is in a state of decline in some respects), but this also leads to the ideological commitment that the US is the only country experiencing culture decay, which I don't think is a position a proponent of culture decay wants to accept. iron jojo posted... Why do they happen so often now as opposed to years ago when there were less gun laws in place i don't know why but also i don't think that having more gun laws is what is causing more shootings, even if more gun laws isn't the solution to mass shootings --- let's positive thinking [this post tastes like lunch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 03/01/18 4:08:43 PM #6: |
my ultra conservative mom blames it on a lack of religiosity, crumbling family values, The View (the TV show, not sure how this works in), liberal teachers, and violent video games/movies
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MedeaLysistrata 03/01/18 4:10:14 PM #7: |
Romulox28 posted...
my ultra conservative mom blames it on a lack of religiosity, crumbling family values, The View (the TV show, not sure how this works in), liberal teachers, and violent video games/movies i can understand some of these, and i guess this is also a 'culture decay argument' lol at The View --- let's positive thinking [this post tastes like lunch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 03/01/18 4:10:40 PM #8: |
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KILBOTz 03/01/18 4:10:41 PM #9: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
KILBOTz posted...culture decay at least the churches I went to growing up that were the evangelical right, it was something to the effect of USA is an uniquely blessed nation by God and we are going from a nation in his grace to a nation outside his grace. The other countries without this issue have long been out of his grace. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 03/01/18 4:11:13 PM #10: |
Romulox28 posted...
my ultra conservative mom blames it on a lack of religiosity, crumbling family values, The View (the TV show, not sure how this works in), liberal teachers, and violent video games/movies Why is God such a whiny asshole? Maybe he should show his fucking face and do something instead of just sitting back and letting people die out of spite because less people are having faith the longer he stays nonexistent. I'm glad he doesn't actually exist because no one should have to suffer under his evil oppression. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Uncle Choad 03/01/18 4:11:38 PM #11: |
Price of freedom, my friend.
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iron jojo 03/01/18 4:13:19 PM #12: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
i don't know why but also i don't think that having more gun laws is what is causing more shootings, even if more gun laws isn't the solution to mass shootings Oh neither do I. I think parenting is the strongest factor. You should have to apply to be a parent imo. --- vickfan-chucky they hated Jesus homie chuckyhacks-who teh hell is "jesus homie" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 03/01/18 4:13:56 PM #13: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Romulox28 posted...my ultra conservative mom blames it on a lack of religiosity, crumbling family values, The View (the TV show, not sure how this works in), liberal teachers, and violent video games/movies he's too busy helping my mom find her car keys --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 03/01/18 4:14:01 PM #14: |
KILBOTz posted...
culture decay This x10000 --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 03/01/18 4:14:43 PM #15: |
KILBOTz posted...
MedeaLysistrata posted...KILBOTz posted...culture decay this is pretty interesting conceptual eschatology --- let's positive thinking [this post tastes like lunch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 03/01/18 4:35:13 PM #16: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
There are some weird ass mental gymnastics in that article. They're measuring 'frequency of mass shootings' by solely looking at the death toll. Norway's single mass shooting shot them up to the top of the list. The CPRC has also collected data on the worst mass public shootings, those cases where at least 15 people were killed in the attack. Wtf is this shit? On top of this the article is sadly dated; On March 22nd, 2016, Belgium had a bombing attacks at an airport and subway that killed 31 people and wounded 180. That is worse than any mass public shooting in the US in terms of fatalities and woundings.A --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 03/01/18 4:42:27 PM #17: |
Darmik posted...
There are some weird ass mental gymnastics in that article. Why wouldn't you take deaths into account? Does lethality not matter iyo? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 03/01/18 4:43:54 PM #18: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...There are some weird ass mental gymnastics in that article. So would you say that terrorist attacks in America are more frequent than European countries because of the death toll of 9/11? That's pretty much what they're doing. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 03/01/18 4:48:53 PM #19: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
Genuinely curious what the conservative position on this is, this isn't a "ha gotcha" attempt. The short answer is because we have a giant media engine designed to make a reality show out of their programming wherein they turn shooter events into this greek tragedian epic dramas where the shooter is a nihilistic anti hero and it inspires other people to "get an even larger body count" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 03/01/18 4:49:50 PM #20: |
What is the conservative position on the uniqueness of American mass shootings? Unfortunate small price to pay for freedom. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 03/01/18 4:51:37 PM #21: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
MedeaLysistrata posted...Genuinely curious what the conservative position on this is, this isn't a "ha gotcha" attempt. This, actually. Most gun violence that could be considered a mass shooting is actually gang-related, but calling that out is not only somehow racist, but actually won't do anything for their anti-gun propaganda. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metro2 03/01/18 4:53:02 PM #22: |
Romulox28 posted...
my ultra conservative mom blames it on a lack of religiosity, crumbling family values, The View (the TV show, not sure how this works in), liberal teachers, and violent video games/movies Tell her that the Nordic countries are nonreligious and liberal, and that they are very safe countries. I wonder what her response will be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 03/01/18 4:55:23 PM #23: |
darkjedilink posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...MedeaLysistrata posted...Genuinely curious what the conservative position on this is, this isn't a "ha gotcha" attempt. except gang related gun violence is a big talking point for liberals too, one of the reasons we income inequality and mental health issues for men is something they're constantly talking about its probably just racist when you bring it up because you think obama was the reason your wife left your ass lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 03/02/18 12:20:49 AM #24: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...There are some weird ass mental gymnastics in that article. To frequency, no. If America had a school shooting every school day for 5 years with an average of 2 deaths each and England had 1 singular event of 9/11 scale over the same time period, would you say England has a bigger problem? Argue frequency or body count, but don't conflate the two. They are not synonymous and you know that because you speak English at least at a 5th grade level. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 03/02/18 12:22:33 AM #25: |
KingCrabCake posted...
KILBOTz posted...culture decay --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 03/02/18 12:25:10 AM #26: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
KingCrabCake posted...KILBOTz posted...culture decay So do you guys mean too little Christianity or too many foreigners? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 03/02/18 12:26:15 AM #27: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...KingCrabCake posted...KILBOTz posted...culture decay Do your parents know you're gay? --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 03/02/18 2:13:05 PM #28: |
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...Darmik posted...There are some weird ass mental gymnastics in that article. In terms of lethality yes. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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