Current Events > "Coward" Scot Peterson thought gunshots were outside

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The coward cop who was armed and outside the school during the Florida shooting says he thought gunfire was coming from outside and that is why he didnt enter the school.

Do you believe him?
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No

i think he heard someone was hurt on the football field thats why he thought it.
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Bump
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isn't there video of him like standing right in front of the door? implying he determined the shots were coming from inside but didn't want to go in
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I know there is video footage of him but I havent seen it. Yes if thats the case it seems like it would be obvious that the gunman was inside.
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I haven't been following the story, so I have no idea if he's telling the truth or not, but I don't blame him. if I thought I heard gunshots, I wouldn't enter the building either.

Than again I'm not a cop.
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If Trump had been there hed have gone in unarmed. In fact, he actually said so himself.
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Because it was his job, I kinda do blame him. Like if he was just someone waking by and didnt want to go in, I get it. But since he wasnt specifically paid to protect the kids in an event just like this, it is somewhat disheartening. Im just wondering if his reasoning was legitimate or if this is just a lawyer trying to defend his client.
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Wasn't Scott Peterson the dude that killed his hot wife like 10, 15 years ago?
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KILBOTz posted...

Wasn't Scott Peterson the dude that killed his hot wife like 10, 15 years ago?

Yes.

Scott Petersons everywhere take another reputation hit. At this point I'd change my name.
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>gets 911 dispatch about shooting
>Doesn't go in
>"I thought it was fireworks so I was checking outside"

If he's telling the truth he should be fired for incompetence
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PMarth2002 posted...

if I thought I heard gunshots, I wouldn't enter the building either.

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

if his job was to call the actual cops and wait for backup, then yeah he did his job. but the fact that he got dismissed/fired/etc. leads me to believe that this was not the case.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

>gets 911 dispatch about shooting
>Doesn't go in
>"I thought it was fireworks so I was checking outside"

If he's telling the truth he should be fired for incompetence

Maybe this police officer is @Complete_Idi0t
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Muffinz0rz posted...

PMarth2002 posted...

if I thought I heard gunshots, I wouldn't enter the building either.

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

if his job was to call the actual cops and wait for backup, then yeah he did his job. but the fact that he got dismissed/fired/etc. leads me to believe that this was not the case.

He was "the actual cop" that was assigned to protect that school.

Even the Broward County sheriff is throwing him under the bus to try to protect his own ass. When the department publicly doesn't stand together, you know you fucked up.
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Was this guy actually an officer of the Police Department, or was he just some poor schmuck running security detail that day? Because if he was just security there's no way he would have had clearance for shoot to kill or any number of reckless hero type stunts. If he was a cop he might have been ordered to hang back, cops are cautious about those situations. But if none of the above then yeah he was a piece of shit.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

ThePrinceFish posted...

He was "the actual cop" that was assigned to protect that school.

OctilIery posted...

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

two different answers here

what up
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Muffinz0rz posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

He was "the actual cop" that was assigned to protect that school.

OctilIery posted...

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

two different answers here

what up

Both are right. He's assigned to protect that school, but NOT in a situation like this, and not at the cost of his own life.

OctilIery posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

Responders to active shooting scenarios are taught to immediately confront the shooter and attempt to stop the killing as quickly as possible. You're full of shit.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

OctilIery posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

Responders to active shooting scenarios are taught to immediately confront the shooter and attempt to stop the killing as quickly as possible. You're full of shit.

No, I'm really not. Sorry kid.

There was little he could've done here besides get himself shot.

KILBOTz posted...

Wasn't Scott Peterson the dude that killed his hot wife like 10, 15 years ago?

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What I get from the discourse is that fearing for one's life is an acceptable justification for shooting an unarmed person, but not for avoiding a guy with an AR-15
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Intro2Logic posted...

What I get from the discourse is that fearing for one's life is an acceptable justification for shooting an unarmed person, but not for avoiding a guy with an AR-15

It's acceptable for both, provided the fear is reasonable.

OctilIery posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

OctilIery posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

Responders to active shooting scenarios are taught to immediately confront the shooter and attempt to stop the killing as quickly as possible. You're full of shit.

No, I'm really not. Sorry kid.

There was little he could've done here besides get himself shot.

Before Columbine, police policy was to wait for SWAT backup.

Post-Columbine training has officers immediately move in to stop the slaughter.

You are wrong.
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OctilIery posted...

There was little he could've done here besides get himself shot.

LMFAO
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ThePrinceFish posted...

OctilIery posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

OctilIery posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

Responders to active shooting scenarios are taught to immediately confront the shooter and attempt to stop the killing as quickly as possible. You're full of shit.

No, I'm really not. Sorry kid.

There was little he could've done here besides get himself shot.

Before Columbine, police policy was to wait for SWAT backup.

Post-Columbine training has officers immediately move in to stop the slaughter.

You are wrong.

Nope, I'm not.

When they're actually equipped to respond, yes. In a case like this, going in armed with just a pistol against a kid who may well have had body armor and could easily penetrate a cop's body armor? Anyone expecting him to go in on that should be ignored outright.

OctilIery posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

OctilIery posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

OctilIery posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

i mean yeah but isn't that literally his job

No. His job would've been to enter when backup arrives, not when doing so would've likely just gotten him killed and done no good.

Responders to active shooting scenarios are taught to immediately confront the shooter and attempt to stop the killing as quickly as possible. You're full of shit.

No, I'm really not. Sorry kid.

There was little he could've done here besides get himself shot.

Before Columbine, police policy was to wait for SWAT backup.

Post-Columbine training has officers immediately move in to stop the slaughter.

You are wrong.

Nope, I'm not.

When they're actually equipped to respond, yes. In a case like this, going in armed with just a pistol against a kid who may well have had body armor and could easily penetrate a cop's body armor? Anyone expecting him to go in on that should be ignored outright.

So then why doesnt he release a statement saying he followed proper procedure
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P4wn4g3 posted...

So then why doesnt he release a statement saying he followed proper procedure

Because his boss already threw his ass under the bus saying that he didn't follow proper procedure.

Which is why his lawyer is trying this shit about how he thought the shots were coming from outside, because had he known the shots were coming from inside, he would have been obligated to enter.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

>gets 911 dispatch about shooting
>Doesn't go in
>"I thought it was fireworks so I was checking outside"

If he's telling the truth he should be fired for incompetence

My understanding is that he received a call over his radio about someone setting off fireworks, and then he was the one who initiated the school lockdown when he determined it was gunfire.

And really, in that situation you can't know the exact location of the shooter without visual contact. Supposedly the shooter was on the third floor while this guy was waiting outside. He had no way of knowing that. I'm not sure how he was expected to breach and clear a multi-story building by himself.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

KILBOTz posted...

Wasn't Scott Peterson the dude that killed his hot wife like 10, 15 years ago?

Yes.

Scott Petersons everywhere take another reputation hit. At this point I'd change my name.

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eston posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

>gets 911 dispatch about shooting
>Doesn't go in
>"I thought it was fireworks so I was checking outside"

If he's telling the truth he should be fired for incompetence

My understanding is that he received a call over his radio about someone setting off fireworks, and then he was the one who initiated the school lockdown when he determined it was gunfire.

And really, in that situation you can't know the exact location of the shooter without visual contact. Supposedly the shooter was on the third floor while this guy was waiting outside. He had no way of knowing that. I'm not sure how he was expected to breach and clear a multi-story building by himself.

It was a single guy executing people. Not a hostage rescue operation.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

So then why doesnt he release a statement saying he followed proper procedure

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/florida-officer-scot-peterson-defends-response-parkland-shooting-n851281
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The problem is its become a blame game between the cop and the sheriff, because one of them needs to be fired and who depends on the story.

Before Sandy Hook, common procedure during an active shooter was to wait for SWAT in case it was a hostage situation. However, after Sandy Hook rules were changed to allow police to enter to reduce lives lost.

If the cop was following rules by waiting for backup, then the sheriff failed to update internal policy and needs to be fired. As such, the sheriff is saying it's the cop's fault.

If the sheriff updated the rules, then the cop was a coward and let people die to save his own life. As such, the cop is saying he did what he thought was right.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

eston posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

>gets 911 dispatch about shooting
>Doesn't go in
>"I thought it was fireworks so I was checking outside"

If he's telling the truth he should be fired for incompetence

My understanding is that he received a call over his radio about someone setting off fireworks, and then he was the one who initiated the school lockdown when he determined it was gunfire.

And really, in that situation you can't know the exact location of the shooter without visual contact. Supposedly the shooter was on the third floor while this guy was waiting outside. He had no way of knowing that. I'm not sure how he was expected to breach and clear a multi-story building by himself.

It was a single guy executing people. Not a hostage rescue operation.

I'm not sure what this has to do with what I posted, but there were in fact teachers and students trapped in that building
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Army veterans >>>>> Cops

I would have gone into that building and shot the gunman.
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s0nicfan posted...

The problem is its become a blame game between the cop and the sheriff, because one of them needs to be fired and who depends on the story.

Before Sandy Hook, common procedure during an active shooter was to wait for SWAT in case it was a hostage situation. However, after Sandy Hook rules were changed to allow police to enter to reduce lives lost.

If the cop was following rules by waiting for backup, then the sheriff failed to update internal policy and needs to be fired. As such, the sheriff is saying it's the cop's fault.

If the sheriff updated the rules, then the cop was a coward and let people die to save his own life. As such, the cop is saying he did what he thought was right.

This makes sense.
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