Current Events > South African Parliament votes to confiscate land from Whites

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Genocet_10-325 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

They had that same sort of extreme racism when the pendulum was flipped the other way anyways. Might as well just declare South Africa a lost cause regardless of which racial demographic is in charge.

This. It's not as bad as what happened during apartheid though

At least there was food during apartheid.

In a year the usual suspects will be on TV holding a benefit concert to "fight famine in South Africa."
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LordRazziel posted...

The Admiral posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Why is taken so personaly?
Why not express this sort of outrage at all the other fucked up things happening in the world. There are plenty of peaceful Muslims that hate ISIS and other radical terrorist groups in the middle East. Never seen you upset over that.

Who's taking it personally? You're the one getting all emotional here, which is quite apparent since your arguments are all over the place.

Emotional?
My arguments aren't all over the place. They just aren't based on identity politics. Care to actually address why you aren't outraged over all the other shitty things in the world?
This isn't meant to minimize this incident, it's meant to call you out on your tribalism.

You do realize that he rails against other atrocities like Islamic terrorism in other parts of the world. Are you implying that he only cares if the victims are white?
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ShroomKingJr posted...

At least there was food during apartheid

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@MedeaLysistrata
@Solar_Crimson

What's this shit about how the land was ill-gotten? Regardless of what people's ancestors did, the people living there are living there now. They can't be forced out like intruders. That's their home.

By that logic, everyone who isn't Native American should be forced from the US.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Why not express this sort of outrage at all the other . . .

There's always something worse to bitch about, a more efficient way to spend money, something else, etc etc etc
this is not a fucking argument.

Stop trying to negate legitimate concern by dictating or criticizing priorities.

Except people just flat don't care about certain problems. Conservative CE is very isolationist until a country does something that can be an attack to white people. Anything else is "their rules."
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Solar_Crimson posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

why are there white people in south Africa to begin with? :v that isn't the land of our people.

Their ancestors, backed by European powers, rolled in and took the land from the natives, and then enacted apartheid which basically gave the White minority all of the power while persecuting the Black majority.

The land was mostly empty when they arrived for 2 reasons:

1. Hunter gatherer groups are sparsely populated.

2. Many of the local natives had recently been slaughtered by northern tribes before Europeans arrived.

The rest of RSA history is not as cut and dry as white = bad and black = good. I wonder how much of the stolen land will go to tribes that actually lived in SA when Europeans arrived.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

LordRazziel posted...

The Admiral posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Why is taken so personaly?
Why not express this sort of outrage at all the other fucked up things happening in the world. There are plenty of peaceful Muslims that hate ISIS and other radical terrorist groups in the middle East. Never seen you upset over that.

Who's taking it personally? You're the one getting all emotional here, which is quite apparent since your arguments are all over the place.

Emotional?
My arguments aren't all over the place. They just aren't based on identity politics. Care to actually address why you aren't outraged over all the other shitty things in the world?
This isn't meant to minimize this incident, it's meant to call you out on your tribalism.

You do realize that he rails against other atrocities like Islamic terrorism in other parts of the world. Are you implying that he only cares if the victims are white?

I can't say that.
All I can say is that he doesn't express outrage over the plight of people he can other, on CE.
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Skye Reynolds posted...

What's this shit about how the land was ill-gotten? Regardless of what people's ancestors did, the people living there are living there now. They can't be forced out like intruders. That's their home.

I never said that they should be at this point, and I actually disagree with this decision.
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tennisdude818 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

why are there white people in south Africa to begin with? :v that isn't the land of our people.

Their ancestors, backed by European powers, rolled in and took the land from the natives, and then enacted apartheid which basically gave the White minority all of the power while persecuting the Black majority.

The land was mostly empty when they arrived for 2 reasons:

1. Hunter gatherer groups are sparsely populated.

2. Many of the local natives had recently been slaughtered by northern tribes before Europeans arrived.

The rest of RSA history is not as cut and dry as white = bad and black = good. I wonder how much of the stolen land will go to tribes that actually lived in SA when Europeans arrived.

Shhhh - you're killing the narrative.
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I mean....when you colonize and steal land this is bound to happen.
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Knowledge_King posted...

I mean....when you colonize and steal land this is bound to happen.

So you support Israel?
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Knowledge_King posted...

I mean....when you colonize and steal land this is bound to happen.

Replace colonize and steal with "purchase deeds to". Also this action by SA is literally stealing
land.

LordRazziel posted...

I can't say that.
All I can say is that he doesn't express outrage over the plight of people he can other, on CE.

So you're really going with the claim that Addy hasn't criticized ISIS' rape of campaign in the middle east? That's the narrative you think anyone will buy?
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Knowledge_King posted...

I mean....when you colonize and steal land this is bound to happen.

Much of the land was bought and paid for with gold and other valuables from the surrounding native tribes.

Since it's white people, watch America actually decide to help. Only time will tell if we're gonna take some time to do the things we never had.

TheGrindery posted...

Since it's white people, watch America actually decide to help. Only time will tell if we're gonna take some time to do the things we never had.

Yeah, because we totally went into Syria to help all those white people.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

What's this shit about how the land was ill-gotten? Regardless of what people's ancestors did, the people living there are living there now. They can't be forced out like intruders. That's their home.

I never said that they should be at this point, and I actually disagree with this decision.

There's no reason to introduce the argument that the land was ill-gained in the first place except to minimize the present wrongdoing or vilify the victims.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

What's this shit about how the land was ill-gotten? Regardless of what people's ancestors did, the people living there are living there now. They can't be forced out like intruders. That's their home.

I never said that they should be at this point, and I actually disagree with this decision.

There's no reason to introduce the argument that the land was ill-gained in the first place except to minimize the present wrongdoing or vilify the victims.

it's an explanation for why this is happening. no one is trying to claim that it's a justification.

just to be clear, explanations are different from justifications.

EDIT: but since you want to have an argument... yes, action against inter-generational violence and injustice is justified. as settlers, we have everything to gain from the argument that you shouldn't fault the people of the present for the wrongs of the past. original sin is a biblical concept for a reason.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

why are there white people in south Africa to begin with? :v that isn't the land of our people.

Their ancestors, backed by European powers, rolled in and took the land from the natives, and then enacted apartheid which basically gave the White minority all of the power while persecuting the Black majority.

if that's the case I don't see anything wrong in kicking their asses out.

Right after apartheid ended, maybe.

But now, too much time has passed. This won't do much but mess up their economy and cultivate racism.

This.

IIRC it was what 40+ years ago? Now you will be punishing children for the sins of their fathers.
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

it's an explanation for why this is happening.

Marxism is why this is happening.

TheGrindery posted...

Since it's white people, watch America actually decide to help. Only time will tell if we're gonna take some time to do the things we never had.

In today's climate, I doubt that will happen.

Interesting facts

In response to the Zimbabwe land grabs of white-woned farms in the early 2000s (which killed around 50 people), the British Government enacted sanctions against Mugabe, yet completely ignored his genocidal campaign against a black African people (Ndebele) that took place during the late 1980s, killing 20,000. No sanctions or anything, despite the British Government being fully aware of the slaughter.

For a long time, there has been a bubble of "white privilege" that has protected the white minority in Africa from genocide (the Ndebele people were murdered for much less than what whites or their ancestors ever did). Mugabe knew he couldn't get away with a genocide of white farmers like he could with other black ethnic groups so he restricted his actions to theft of land. But this privilege for white people may be ending.

Questionmarktarius posted...

MedeaLysistrata posted...

it's an explanation for why this is happening.

Marxism is why this is happening.

looks like the postmodernist cultural marxists have struck again. the situation is overdetermined.
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What Wakaanada would actually be like
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So South Africa is going to have no water AND no food. Yeah, great place to live, have fun with that.
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But but but I thought the fake news guys like Posobiec and Cernovich and Molyneux et al who talked about this for at least the last 2 years were fake newsz?!?
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SideshowBob311 posted...

So South Africa is going to have no water AND no food

I totally forgot about their water issues

It's a shame the country is going to waste like this
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Bloodychess posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

So South Africa is going to have no water AND no food

I totally forgot about their water issues

It's a shame the country is going to waste like this

It's a shithole country
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Knowledge_King posted...

I mean....when you colonize and steal land this is bound to happen.

all land was stolen you goof

So wait, when they confiscate the land, do they not farm it? Do they just leave it alone?
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APM posted...

Bloodychess posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

So South Africa is going to have no water AND no food

I totally forgot about their water issues

It's a shame the country is going to waste like this

It's a shithole country

Look what you did. Now Conan O'Brien is going to fly over to the rich areas in South Africa to show you how south Africa isn't a shithole country.
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LightHawKnight posted...

So wait, when they confiscate the land, do they not farm it? Do they just leave it alone?

Presumably, much like Zimbabwe and Venezuela, the means of production will handed to cronies, intended cronies, and cousins, who have no goddamn idea what they're actually doing, and everyone starves.

My girlfriend's family sends packages of a bunch of different types of seeds to a village in Kenya and they get letters about how it saves their people.

They even grew a field of jalapeos and it stopped their tiger problem. They made dust off a lot of it to make perimeters around places. The guy said he has never seen a tiger take off running that fast.

LightHawKnight posted...

So wait, when they confiscate the land, do they not farm it? Do they just leave it alone?

They try but fail. Experienced farmers tend to do a better job than those randomly gifted land and govt. bureaucrats.
Communist farming practices have been infamously bad like trying to plant twice as many seeds for twice as many crops on the same amount of land.

White farmers bring advanced farming techniques that rely on stuff like GPS, chemical analysis, higher mechanization, etc etc etc.

I mean, this is the pretty obvious benefit of capitalism about how it allocates resources more efficiently.
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TheGrindery posted...

They even grew a field of jalapeos and it stopped their tiger problem. They made dust off a lot of it to make perimeters around places. The guy said he has never seen a tiger take off running that fast.

Incidentally, that's how I keep mice out of my house.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

So wait, when they confiscate the land, do they not farm it? Do they just leave it alone?

They try but fail. Experienced farmers tend to do a better job than those randomly gifted land and govt. bureaucrats.
Communist farming practices have been infamously bad like trying to plant twice as many seeds for twice as many crops on the same amount of land.

White farmers bring advanced farming techniques that rely on stuff like GPS, chemical analysis, higher mechanization, etc etc etc.

Ah, I get it now.
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Manocheese posted...

"It's impossible for black people to be racist."

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Questionmarktarius posted...

TheGrindery posted...

They even grew a field of jalapeos and it stopped their tiger problem. They made dust off a lot of it to make perimeters around places. The guy said he has never seen a tiger take off running that fast.

Incidentally, that's how I keep mice out of my house.

Not a bad idea! Since those people actually have tigers sneak up and take children, I'm going to send them Carolina Reaper seeds. If they didn't like inhaling jalapeo dust... Lol

LightHawKnight posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

So wait, when they confiscate the land, do they not farm it? Do they just leave it alone?

They try but fail. Experienced farmers tend to do a better job than those randomly gifted land and govt. bureaucrats.
Communist farming practices have been infamously bad like trying to plant twice as many seeds for twice as many crops on the same amount of land.

White farmers bring advanced farming techniques that rely on stuff like GPS, chemical analysis, higher mechanization, etc etc etc.

Ah, I get it now.

It's not even a "white" thing. When you exile or exterminate anyone with experience in whatever you've just nationalized, you've already fucked up, before the steady decline of a command economy even begins.

robellr13 posted...

Manocheese posted...

"It's impossible for black people to be racist."

It is...

Troll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hf0DXE8SdE
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Admiral, your heroes are literal murderers and rapists. keep that in mind before you mention me so you're reminded to never mention me.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

why are there white people in south Africa to begin with? :v that isn't the land of our people.

Their ancestors, backed by European powers, rolled in and took the land from the natives, and then enacted apartheid which basically gave the White minority all of the power while persecuting the Black majority.

if that's the case I don't see anything wrong in kicking their asses out.

Right after apartheid ended, maybe.

But now, too much time has passed. This won't do much but mess up their economy and cultivate racism.

You don't think what happen the black population "cultivated racism".
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If you are white and south african, I would advise you pack up and leave the country
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Admiral, your heroes are literal murderers and rapists. keep that in mind before you mention me so you're reminded to never mention me.

Sounds like a weak deflection because my post was right on.

Keep using this logic to justify your racism and bigotry against "power groups," though. You're not fooling anyway.
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darkjedilink posted...

So you support Israel?

Israel has no claim to their land. They've just been given it by other countries.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Replace colonize and steal with "purchase deeds to". Also this action by SA is literally stealing
land.

I'm talking to the White South Africans as a whole. Those actions soured opinions on the rest no matter how 'fair' or 'legal' their business (assuming they did this fairly).

Ammonitida posted...

Much of the land was bought and paid for with gold and other valuables from the surrounding native tribes.

See above.

pikachupwnage posted...

IIRC it was what 40+ years ago? Now you will be punishing children for the sins of their fathers.

That's usually how the world works.

Milkman5 posted...

all land was stolen you goof

Yeah and if the people you stole it from get back in power....they usually take it back.
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This isnt the beginning of the anti-white racism in SA. Farm murders are grossly unreported and often include torture of women and children that lasts for hours. Affirmative action on steroids makes many whites unemployable and traps them in shanty towns.

Stealing land is a major escalation towards an even uglier place. It things continue like this, SA will serve as a tragic example to the rest of the world of why anti-white hatred has to be addressed for what it is.
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deflection from what, Admiral? I still only care about American politics. my countrymen are my concern, not a continent I have no connection with. do you understand why I don't have any connection? I'm sure you know. slave owners are your heroes. focus your attention back on Andrew Jackson's sack and hop off mine.

so insecure and fragile that you tagged me early in the morning, lol.
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The fact that there are people in this topic that are justifying and even supporting this is disgusting.
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TheGrindery posted...

My girlfriend's family sends packages of a bunch of different types of seeds to a village in Kenya and they get letters about how it saves their people.

They even grew a field of jalapeos and it stopped their tiger problem. They made dust off a lot of it to make perimeters around places. The guy said he has never seen a tiger take off running that fast.

This is stupid. They don't even have tigers in Kenya you fool -.-
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American slavery from 200 years ago was just mentioned in a topic about a continent that still has slavery today.
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