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Vita_Aeterna 02/27/18 12:36:39 AM #103: |
flat_tyre posted...
I've included a few... err, special people for reference :D Nice to be so close to my man Gandhi. Thanks for this, @flat_tyre edit: oh wow, didn't even see that @Robin_Dude made a similar comment --- "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 7:24:06 AM #104: |
bump.
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Steve Nick 02/27/18 7:24:56 AM #105: |
I stand alone on that chart.
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Juhanor 02/27/18 7:58:33 AM #106: |
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 8:09:33 AM #107: |
Steve Nick posted...
I stand alone on that chart. Not really lol --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 02/27/18 8:58:22 AM #108: |
Didn't realize how extreme left some people are here. My understanding is the extremes would essentially meet on the ends since you would end up with the same system of governance there (dictatorial oligarch)
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 9:03:47 AM #109: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Didn't realize how extreme left some people are here. My understanding is the extremes would essentially meet on the ends since you would end up with the same system of governance there (dictatorial oligarch) Not on this. That's the whole point of that second dimension. Far right vs Far left will not meet, authoritarian vs libertarian will also not meet. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 02/27/18 9:05:38 AM #110: |
Idk, my polisci class in high school had the same chart and they taught that the extremes were similar in that way.
For example how is true authoritarian and pure anarchism going to result in any difference in government? --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 10:57:45 AM #111: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
Idk, my polisci class in high school had the same chart and they taught that the extremes were similar in that way. Pure anarchism is the absence of a government or governmental structures and the removal of nation states as they are to the anarchist only "tax farms" that financially enslave their citizens... An authoritarian... believes in the strict rule of a governmental structure and their laws; who has judiciary/executive power in this authoritarian government depends on the left-right metric. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 02/27/18 11:15:11 AM #112: |
Very_Unreliable posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...Idk, my polisci class in high school had the same chart and they taught that the extremes were similar in that way. Pure anarchy doesn't exist and breaks down into dictatorship. Pure dictatorship doesn't exist in the sense that one person can't do it all, and rival factions tend to exist. Between the two a pure dictatorship is more likely. One can make the same arguments about economic issues. Pure wealth equality will lead to an oligarchy where the many are impoverished. Pure wealth concentrations are more realistic. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 11:21:16 AM #113: |
@P4wn4g3 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...P4wn4g3 posted...Idk, my polisci class in high school had the same chart and they taught that the extremes were similar in that way. People do not agree on the plausibility of either things you've said. I agree with you in practice these are likely realities, but people do not meet at the opposite ends of either dimension. It is not a toroidal wrap in anything but possibly practice. So you're not wrong I suppose. I just thought you meant ideologically these people should agree... --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 02/27/18 11:23:15 AM #114: |
No not ideologically per se. If the idealist realized that they were the same in practice then maybe, but I guess it's for history to judge those situations.
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 11:27:34 AM #115: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
No not ideologically per se. If the idealist realized that they were the same in practice then maybe, but I guess it's for history to judge those situations. agreed. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 02/27/18 11:34:42 AM #116: |
this is the first time I have ever been in the green --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 02/27/18 11:44:00 AM #117: |
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=2.5&soc=-4.41
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 11:44:42 AM #118: |
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TheGrindery 02/27/18 11:49:24 AM #119: |
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/27/18 12:34:54 PM #120: |
It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position.
I identify far more with a right libertarian than a left authoritarian. Our allies are those that align on the Y axis. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeonesAlt 02/27/18 12:37:13 PM #121: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. Agreed. It's very strange how the "libertarians" on this board worship Trump, the total authoritarian --- But Whose? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 12:37:30 PM #122: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. ...You mean the X-axis.... --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 02/27/18 12:42:30 PM #123: |
SomeonesAlt posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. Im libertarian and abhor Trump. The only person close right now would be Sessions --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/27/18 12:50:56 PM #124: |
Very_Unreliable posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. No, god damn all of your posts are fucking trash. X is the horizontal axis (left/right) Y is the vertical axis. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 12:52:36 PM #125: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. Right... So you meant aligned on the X axis is what matters, since you just professed that deviation along the x-axis didn't matter.... I am lolling irl. giggling with glee. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 12:56:55 PM #127: |
@Anarchy_Juiblex
Ahahaha I can't wait for you to realize what a fool you've made of yourself. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeonesAlt 02/27/18 12:57:03 PM #128: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. Yeah, that's what I had libertarians in quotes. Only fake libertarians would actually like the authoritarian Trump --- But Whose? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 02/27/18 1:08:38 PM #129: |
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/27/18 1:09:38 PM #130: |
Very_Unreliable posted...
@Anarchy_Juiblex You are genuinely a fucking idiot. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 1:19:40 PM #131: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...@Anarchy_Juiblex Now not only are you wrong, you'll get modded. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 1:20:28 PM #132: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...@Anarchy_Juiblex So if you're aligned on the Y axis.... You are on a DIFFERENT position on the Y axis... which means you are either more authoritarian or more libertarian, which is the opposite of what you said... that if you're right or left of each other it doesn't matter (aligned on the x-axis) as long as you agree on more or less government. You've sufficiently made a fool of yourself. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/27/18 1:22:13 PM #133: |
Very_Unreliable posted...
So if you're aligned on the Y axis.... You are on a DIFFERENT position on the Y axis... I want the weed you're smoking. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 1:32:07 PM #134: |
@Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/27/18 1:41:55 PM #135: |
Why are you trying so hard to prove you never taken linear algebra?
Coordinates read X,Y I'm -1,-1 on the graph. Left libertarian. Someone that's a right libertarian is 1,-1. Our Y's or "Y axis" is the same. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 1:45:43 PM #137: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why are you trying so hard to prove you never taken linear algebra? Yeah that's right, so you're aligned along the x-axis, read your quote, nothing I've said is wrong but you attacked me. You're without a doubt completely cornered here. You were wrong and look ridiculous, I've never taken linear algebra? how about no, and quit insulting before you end up looking even more foolish. "our allies are those who align along the y axis" - @Anarchy_Juiblex --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/27/18 1:45:43 PM #138: |
And ignored.
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 1:46:13 PM #139: |
And stupid.
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wackyteen 02/27/18 1:52:30 PM #140: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...So if you're aligned on the Y axis.... You are on a DIFFERENT position on the Y axis... --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 02/27/18 2:01:56 PM #141: |
SomeonesAlt posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...SomeonesAlt posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. But that would mean mal is a fake libertarian. This... this cannot be! --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KILBOTz 02/27/18 2:04:56 PM #142: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
It's funny that most rational people look at the compass and realize it's Libertarian vs Authoritarian that matters, not left vs right. Yet our politics hardly reflects that position. Mostly agree. People extreme left and extreme right I have a hard time getting along with since the seem to put those as the things that matter. But I do agree I tend to get along with right sided libertarians a lot more than someone as left as me but highly authoritarian. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 02/27/18 2:27:41 PM #143: |
If we take the chart at face value, social and economic values have equal value to people. Personally I think that economic values are more important and more overlooked. Social values are pretty obviousl.
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cerealbox760 02/27/18 3:25:36 PM #144: |
Everyone to the left of Trump is considered a communist including Hilary. -conservatives. Hitler falls in the very top middle because hes a nationalist-socialist aka commie according to the far right. Libertarians dont stand a chance with all these right wingers. Founding fathers would be disappoint --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 3:28:57 PM #145: |
cerealbox760 posted...
None of those circles are empirical plots where any of those politicians would sit. It's this ridiculous meme that all American and British politics take place right of center, which couldn't be further from the truth. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElementPro 02/27/18 4:04:50 PM #146: |
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Very_Unreliable 02/27/18 4:07:05 PM #147: |
ElementPro posted...
They didn't. Theres a liberal bias, Hitler, Stalin and Ghandi would be far left, varying slightly on the y-axis. Thatcher would be right but far lower; and Friedman would be nearly at the bottom right. --- RyuGigas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 02/27/18 4:08:09 PM #148: |
Very_Unreliable posted...
cerealbox760 posted... they're probably too far towards the upper right corner and should probably be toned down more to the middle of that quadrant, but to say that they don't belong in the upper right quadrant is wrong. US politics are center right by default. we have an allergy to leftism in this country --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ser_Jaker 02/27/18 4:11:33 PM #149: |
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.5&soc=4.26
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Howl 02/27/18 4:17:14 PM #150: |
According to this I'm almost a centrist and only slightly right leaning. But according to liberals here I'm "an alt-right radical."
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Kaname_Madoka 02/27/18 4:23:44 PM #151: |
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-8.13&soc=-7.79
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bobtuse 02/27/18 4:23:49 PM #152: |
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P4wn4g3 02/27/18 4:28:55 PM #153: |
Yeah I wouldn't think that US politicians are more authoritarian than Hitler, Trump not withstanding. However they are further right pretty consistently.
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Omnislasher 02/27/18 4:57:56 PM #154: |
Kaname_Madoka posted...
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