Current Events > Why is the left so terrified when people who disagree with them speak?

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Umm it's the right that is terrified TC.

Wanting everyone to stand for the flag and telling LeBron to shut up and dribble because of mah feelings.
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DarkProto05 posted...

Umm it's the right that is terrified TC.

Wanting everyone to stand for the flag and telling LeBron to shut up and dribble because of mah feelings.

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the right doesn't scream when the other side is talking, and doesn't try to attack them in riots. I've never seen a righter punch a left wing journalist

Asherlee10 posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Everyone, and I'll include myself in this, tends to have their own head shoved so far up their own partisan ass and feels that they know everything about every issue that when they see something they disagree with they fundamentally dismiss it at every level and resort to slinging shit back and forth.

I agree with this to an extent. I know it's not well received to say "both sides do it." But I honestly feel that is the truth. I see this shit from certain kinds of people on both sides of an argument or position.

I think the line in the sand may not be democrat or republican, but more reasonable vs unreasonable.

That's because the only people that say "lol both sides" can't/won't admit the shit they complain about the other party doing their party is guilty of too. So the only recourse it to say it is isn't true.
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Bipartisanship is for idiots who get warm fuzzies from pack mentality. Baa-aa-aa-aa-aah.
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https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/02/why-do-those-college-students-hate-free-speech-so-much

Lets have a closer look at these incidents and see what weve got here:

Public defender Robin Steinberg was disinvited from Harvard Law School after conservatives voiced outrage that her staff had appeared in an anti-police rap video. Hundreds of students protested the decision to disinvite Steinberg, calling her inspirational, and she was then invited to give the Law School Criminal Justice Initiatives inaugural Trailblazer Lecture.
The rapper Common was invited to give the commencement speech at Kean University, then was disinvited by the administration after conservatives voiced outrage at his lyrics supposed endorsement for cop killing.
A college group at Williams rescinds its invitation to Suzanne Venker, a conservative critic of feminism, after leftist students criticize the choice to invite Venker.
Asra Nomani speaks at Duke. Efforts by activists to cancel her speech do not succeed and the university apologizes for giving her the impression she was not welcome.
Students disrupt the Chancellor of UC-Berkeley to protest the schools pitiful minority enrollment numbers, the contrast between the financial hardships faced by students of color and Dirks huge salary (nearly half a million dollars even while on leave), and the schools refusal to sign a Community Benefits Agreement.
Conservative students from an American Patriots group shout down Democratic Representative Luis Gutierrez at USC to protest illegal immigration, requiring campus security to intervene.
Campus Republicans try to get black activist Angela Davis disinvited from Texas Tech. They fail.
Princeton students try to get a concert by rapper Big Sean canceled, because he frequently uses the word bitch and has a history of sexual violence. The students do not succeed; Big Seans concert goes ahead as scheduled, everyone dances, and there are no protests on the day.
Some student activists protest a lecture by Ferguson prosecutor Bob McCullough. The event proceeds as planned.
Conservative students try to get Bill Ayers kept off a panel discussion. They fail.
Students try to keep Harold Koh from being a visiting professor at NYU, due to his involvement in the Obama Administrations drone program. The students fail.

Perhaps you have noticed the two common themes here: (1) its not just leftists that try to keep speakers from coming to campus; controversial speakers of all stripes have been met with opposition. (I remember that right before I got to Brandeis as an undergrad there had been a huge controversy over inviting, of all people, Jimmy Carter, due to his criticism of Israel.) (2) Most of these efforts seem to fail, and the speakers come anyway. Furthermore, it seems like sometimes the censors may have something of a point, even if we disagree with them: should large amounts of university funds be spent on a misogynistic performer or a professor involved in an inhumane political policy, when they could just as easily be spent on a performer or professor who didnt have these kinds of questionable histories? I dont have a position on these two cases specifically, but it hardly seems evidence of creeping Stalinism in the student body.

More importantly, though, we can see here why reaching broad conclusions from sets of anecdotes is inadvisable. There are around 2,600 four-year universities in the United States. Friedersdorf tried to compile all of the most outrageous instances from a single year, and found about 10 of them. Those 10 were probably roughly evenly distributed according to the political affiliation of the students; i.e. there are more shutdown attempts by liberal students than conservative students, but students are also more liberal. And among those high-profile incidents, a bunch of the speakers ended up coming and speaking and the petitions went nowhere.

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The Great Muta 22 posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

I think a large portion is that it's now the self esteem / participant trophy generation.

And you guys wonder why people "on the left" tend to be hostile with you, as if perhaps the negative rhetoric, bullshit pejoratives, and mocks and insults aren't common by everyone.

And see, that's the problem. Everyone, and I'll include myself in this, tends to have their own head shoved so far up their own partisan ass and feels that they know everything about every issue that when they see something they disagree with they fundamentally dismiss it at every level and resort to slinging shit back and forth. And I'm not acting like I have the answers in how to solve it, but a huge step would be in people acknowledging that they themselves do it

At what point did I mention left or right? Yes it's in the title, but it is an apolitical mindset and I didn't pick a side. The larger question is what do you do when you realize this: keep your head up your ass and slowly (or quickly) become something you normally vilify (and wonder why it isn't working on them when it hadn't worked on you), or follow that golden rule thing and listen to them as you wish to be listened to.

You'll notice many (now including me) saying we used to be very die hard leftists but have lost the cause from too many on our side more vested in shouting Nazi and purposely triggering conservatives than anything else.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

And you guys wonder why people "on the left" tend to be hostile with you, as if perhaps the negative rhetoric, bulls*** pejoratives, and mocks and insults aren't common by everyone.

Nothing you quoted deserves the sort of reaction people get from the left.
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Antifar posted...

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/02/why-do-those-college-students-hate-free-speech-so-much

Trying to get speakers disinvited is one thing

Showing up at a speaking even that was already cleared and shouting over/destroying their speaker equipment is something else.
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Zikten posted...

the right doesn't scream when the other side is talking, and doesn't try to attack them in riots. I've never seen a righter punch a left wing journalist

Punch no, but a right wing congressman body slammed one. Seriously, both sides suck.
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Eh, this kind of reaction never struck me as a lefty/righty-only kind of thing, both sides can be severely close-minded and hostile when they want to be on various issues. Hell, at their very core it's a very "us versus them" mentality, compromise is explicitly forbidden.

It's a large part of why I don't side with either one, because they both regularly fail to come off as reasonable to me.
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SomeonesAlt posted...

Zikten posted...

the right doesn't scream when the other side is talking, and doesn't try to attack them in riots. I've never seen a righter punch a left wing journalist

Punch no, but a right wing congressman body slammed one. Seriously, both sides suck.

One asshole Republican vs. a few a dozen instances where a mob of leftists try to shut down a speaker either physically or through illegal means like pulling fire alarms...
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