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Punctus_Pilot
02/21/18 3:12:25 PM
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All anarcho-communists will suddenly feel the pain of burning alive over the course of two minutes, then die from the shock. You get $50,000. Nobody knows you did this.
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Prestoff
02/21/18 3:13:13 PM
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Again, no I would kill for money. Especially a large group of them.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/21/18 3:16:33 PM
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nah. I wouldn't do it for white supremacists either, but especially not an coms. I don't agree with an coms, but at least they're not hateful.
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DifferentialEquation
02/21/18 3:19:31 PM
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No. But I would take $50,000 if it would make random Ben Shapiro podcasts play in their heads for the next few days.
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Antifar
02/21/18 3:20:00 PM
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No.
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Master_Bass
02/21/18 3:25:11 PM
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Nope and I wouldn't do it for the white supremists either.
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Esrac
02/21/18 3:28:12 PM
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So, what's the down side?

I kid.
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OneThatFollows
02/21/18 3:35:29 PM
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Yay 100k in one day
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fire_bolt
02/21/18 3:36:49 PM
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Not a lot of groups I wouldn't take the money on for this tbh
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Lost_All_Senses
02/21/18 3:37:04 PM
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I only have to pay 50k for this? Sure
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fire_bolt
02/21/18 3:53:55 PM
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Interesting how this one is still open
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Uncle Choad
02/21/18 3:58:38 PM
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I say they feel the pain of hunger and famine instead of burning. Make it more realistic please.
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Solar_Crimson
02/21/18 3:58:47 PM
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Yeah, this topic should be deleted as well if they're going to mod the White supremacist one.
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Punctus_Pilot
02/21/18 4:06:30 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Interesting how this one is still open

Solar_Crimson posted...
Yeah, this topic should be deleted as well if they're going to mod the White supremacist one.

I'm not closing it. I don't know which mod closed the other one so I can't directly call them out
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:08:07 PM
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looking forward to this topic being modded
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:08:33 PM
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Oxy-moronic; and impossible political alignment?

I'd take it, as no one would die.

Did you mean LARPing revolutionaries? I wouldn't take the money then, I don't want anyone to die.
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DragonGirlYuki
02/21/18 4:09:18 PM
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In the 50s and 60s a lot more people probably would take the money. Like "Better dead than red."
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:09:27 PM
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DifferentialEquation
02/21/18 4:10:22 PM
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The mods always do this (closing the other topic) and it irks me every time. Whenever there's some controversial topic, just as soon as I get a good chain of shitposts going some mod deletes the topic.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:10:48 PM
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Do anarcho-communist actually exist?

Seems like they're pretty incompatible.
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:11:49 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Do anarcho-communist actually exist?

Seems like they're pretty incompatible.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism
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fire_bolt
02/21/18 4:12:12 PM
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Holy shit, someone screen cap that. DE just admitted he's shitposting
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:12:15 PM
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ITT products of the american education system
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:13:04 PM
#25:


Omnislasher posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Do anarcho-communist actually exist?

Seems like they're pretty incompatible.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism


I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:13:19 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Do anarcho-communist actually exist?

Seems like they're pretty incompatible.


They are diametrically opposed ideologies, but since they both sound cool and dystopian, LARPers have adopted it to describe themselves. It also makes it a lot easier to deflect the inevitable mentions of Mao/Che/Stalin/Lenin/Castro, despite them all having secret crushes on all of them.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:16:04 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
ITT products of the american education system


I mean, it makes no fucking sense. Using Marx to topple capatlism on the basis of "needs" is beyond stupid.

I still stand by the incompatible claim. Doubly so when they want to preach about individual freedom.
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:16:51 PM
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ugh, american kids
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:17:44 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Do anarcho-communist actually exist?

Seems like they're pretty incompatible.


They are diametrically opposed ideologies, but since they both sound cool and dystopian, LARPers have adopted it to describe themselves. It also makes it a lot easier to deflect the inevitable mentions of Mao/Che/Stalin/Lenin/Castro, despite them all having secret crushes on all of them.


That actually explains a lot. You've got me kinda interested now. Looks like I got some entertainment to look to tonight. Thanks mate.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:18:32 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
ugh, american kids


Would you care to elaborate then?

Or shall we continue to pretend like we're not both in the late 20's/early 30's?

Edit: it appears you probably are closer to the 40's +.

Care to share your wisdom then instead?
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:19:31 PM
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anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:19:59 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


I never denied that though.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:20:05 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:21:00 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


yes, it is.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:22:02 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


yes, it is.

Not in the US.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:23:33 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


What would it be classified. It wouldn't be on the political spectrum period since it's an ideology specifically tailored to disrupting/dismantling a system of government right?

I know it's typically attributed to left wing on the basis that it's "progressive" and "anti-establishment" but that's about the extent of my knowledge on its political leaning.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:24:48 PM
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But let's not get off point on a tangent. How are they not mutually exclusive ideologies?

Because ones used (anarchism) as a means to an end (communism). Does that sum it up?
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:27:29 PM
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it is a left-wing ideology from its earliest philosophical foundations and including all historical instances of any significance

the 20th c. right-wing concept of "individualistic" anarchism is an aberration, simply put

Zeeak4444 posted...
Because ones used (anarchism) as a means to an end (communism). Does that sum it up?


..no
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:28:13 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


What would it be classified. It wouldn't be on the political spectrum period since it's an ideology specifically tailored to disrupting/dismantling a system of government right?

I know it's typically attributed to left wing on the basis that it's "progressive" but that's about the extent of my knowledge on its political leaning.


In the US the definition ascribed to the sides of the spectrum are different than the convoluted way they are defined elsewhere. On the right is less government, gradually until you're left with anarchy/anarcho-capitalism, which is just a reset button, and on the left is gradually more government and gradually more centralized and bureaucratic. Republics are left of democracies ironically. It's wordplay for the purpose of modern politics that names don't seem to match.

Anarcho-communism irrespective of what side of the spectrum either are on, are ideologies exclusive to each other absolutely. I don't care what weird verbal gymnastics a LARPer is capable of. Words mean things.
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treewojima
02/21/18 4:29:00 PM
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some of the most influential left wing anarchists have been American, but w/e
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:30:22 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
it is a left-wing ideology from its earliest philosophical foundations and including all historical instances of any significance

the 20th c. right-wing concept of "individualistic" anarchism is an aberration, simply put

Zeeak4444 posted...
Because ones used (anarchism) as a means to an end (communism). Does that sum it up?


..no


Okay so what is it then. This is like the 50th topic over the last year on this and yet no one can articulate how they are compatible ideologies.

You're responses are the same as the rest, "no you just don't get it!"
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Omnislasher
02/21/18 4:30:33 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


What would it be classified. It wouldn't be on the political spectrum period since it's an ideology specifically tailored to disrupting/dismantling a system of government right?

I know it's typically attributed to left wing on the basis that it's "progressive" but that's about the extent of my knowledge on its political leaning.


In the US the definition ascribed to the sides of the spectrum are different than the convoluted way they are defined elsewhere. On the right is less government, gradually until you're left with anarchy/anarcho-capitalism, which is just a reset button, and on the left is gradually more government and gradually more centralized and bureaucratic. Republics are left of democracies ironically. It's wordplay for the purpose of modern politics that names don't seem to match.

Anarcho-communism irrespective of what side of the spectrum either are on, are ideologies exclusive to each other absolutely. I don't care what weird verbal gymnastics a LARPer is capable of. Words mean things.


this is just willful ignorance
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:31:23 PM
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The system of left-right politics that would put anarchism on the left is ridiculous, and thoroughly outdated.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 4:31:43 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


What would it be classified. It wouldn't be on the political spectrum period since it's an ideology specifically tailored to disrupting/dismantling a system of government right?

I know it's typically attributed to left wing on the basis that it's "progressive" but that's about the extent of my knowledge on its political leaning.


In the US the definition ascribed to the sides of the spectrum are different than the convoluted way they are defined elsewhere. On the right is less government, gradually until you're left with anarchy/anarcho-capitalism, which is just a reset button, and on the left is gradually more government and gradually more centralized and bureaucratic. Republics are left of democracies ironically. It's wordplay for the purpose of modern politics that names don't seem to match.

Anarcho-communism irrespective of what side of the spectrum either are on, are ideologies exclusive to each other absolutely. I don't care what weird verbal gymnastics a LARPer is capable of. Words mean things.


this is just willful ignorance

No it isn't. Go ahead and educate me.
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ManBeast462
02/21/18 4:32:18 PM
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This would make the world better
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sutree
02/21/18 4:32:37 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...


Okay so what is it then. This is like the 50th topic over the last year on this and yet no one can articulate how they are compatible ideologies.

You're responses are the same as the rest, "no you just don't get it!"

Perhaps you could be more specific in your question, i.e. why you think they aren't compatible.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:33:47 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Omnislasher posted...
anarchism and communism are both left-wing ideologies with extensive historical and philosophical roots


Anarchism is not a left-wing ideology, guy.


What would it be classified. It wouldn't be on the political spectrum period since it's an ideology specifically tailored to disrupting/dismantling a system of government right?

I know it's typically attributed to left wing on the basis that it's "progressive" but that's about the extent of my knowledge on its political leaning.


In the US the definition ascribed to the sides of the spectrum are different than the convoluted way they are defined elsewhere. On the right is less government, gradually until you're left with anarchy/anarcho-capitalism, which is just a reset button, and on the left is gradually more government and gradually more centralized and bureaucratic. Republics are left of democracies ironically. It's wordplay for the purpose of modern politics that names don't seem to match.

Anarcho-communism irrespective of what side of the spectrum either are on, are ideologies exclusive to each other absolutely. I don't care what weird verbal gymnastics a LARPer is capable of. Words mean things.


That was really enlightening. Most of it I knew but I never considered the bolded which now makes the whole picture make way more sense. Thanks again for that.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:35:14 PM
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sutree posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...


Okay so what is it then. This is like the 50th topic over the last year on this and yet no one can articulate how they are compatible ideologies.

You're responses are the same as the rest, "no you just don't get it!"

Perhaps you could be more specific in your question, i.e. why you think they aren't compatible.


Makes sense. Jumping in the shower so give me like 20 and I'll tag you with a few of my common questions. Any response would be greatly appreciated, of course.
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sutree
02/21/18 4:37:49 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
sutree posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...


Okay so what is it then. This is like the 50th topic over the last year on this and yet no one can articulate how they are compatible ideologies.

You're responses are the same as the rest, "no you just don't get it!"

Perhaps you could be more specific in your question, i.e. why you think they aren't compatible.


Makes sense. Jumping in the shower so give me like 20 and I'll tag you with a few of my common questions. Any response would be greatly appreciated, of course.

I mean I'm not all that knowledgeable myself but I'll try to help. I'm going to go get some fast food so I'll check back later as well.
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Zeeak4444
02/21/18 4:55:06 PM
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@sutree

To my understanding anarcho-communist abolish the tenant of "non-hierarchy" from anarchism. Which is like the main aspect of it if I'm not mistaken.

Due to this everything I see or read (including omnis Wikipedia article) estentially states it's a matter of semantics. That the portion of anarchism in anarcho-communist is just a means to get to communism (which absolutely will have a hierarchy) yet this is always denied (as Omni did earlier).

Honestly, I guess most of my confusion regarding it comes from people using anarchism to mean "anti-establishment". Which just seems odd.

Fully could be wrong here but like I said I struggle to find anyone who wants to go into more detail. That Wikipedia page could infer a number of things considering it's mostly loaded statements and skewing of past tenants.
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Punctus_Pilot
02/21/18 5:07:08 PM
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So, this topic is ok but the one about white supremacists (only called white supremacists, never alt-right or Nazis), was bad. Makes you think.
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