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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:02:59 PM
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We cant even give teachers proper school supplies or training but we can give them guns and training?

Stawp

The answer is, cops in schools, metal detectors, reinforce doors.

Along with better mental health programs and raising our children better.
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:03:47 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
We cant even give teachers proper school supplies or training but we can give them guns and training?

If they pay for it yes.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/21/18 3:03:58 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
The answer is, cops in schools, metal detectors, reinforce doors.


so put our kids in prison?
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 3:05:23 PM
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iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We cant even give teachers proper school supplies or training but we can give them guns and training?

If they pay for it yes.


That's completely ridiculous
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Freakz19
02/21/18 3:06:16 PM
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How about making guns illegal for civilians to own? There are plenty of non lethal ways for self defense if that is your argument.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 3:06:28 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
The answer is, cops in schools, metal detectors, reinforce doors.

cool...as you said we can't give teachers proper supplies to teach our kids...how do you plan to pay for that?
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Foppe
02/21/18 3:06:33 PM
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Please understand, if the teachers cant afford to buy their own guns, they dont deserve to be teachers.
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eston
02/21/18 3:06:36 PM
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We cant even trust teachers not to have sex with our children
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:07:36 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We cant even give teachers proper school supplies or training but we can give them guns and training?

If they pay for it yes.


That's completely ridiculous

They pay for their education right? They can pay for gun training then.
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Foppe
02/21/18 3:08:10 PM
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Perhaps those shooters wouldnt have gone on a killing spree if their teachers had sex with them...
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 3:08:41 PM
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iClockwork posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We cant even give teachers proper school supplies or training but we can give them guns and training?

If they pay for it yes.


That's completely ridiculous

They pay for their education right? They can pay for gun training then.

so what do you get out of this? does doing this on CE make you feel good about yourself?
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:08:47 PM
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Freakz19 posted...
How about making guns illegal for civilians to own? There are plenty of non lethal ways for self defense if that is your argument.

Lmfao god no
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:09:25 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
so what do you get out of this? does doing this on CE make you feel good about yourself?

Safety for our children.
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Antifar
02/21/18 3:09:34 PM
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Arm the Chicago Teacher's Union
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 3:10:19 PM
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iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
so what do you get out of this? does doing this on CE make you feel good about yourself?

Safety for our children.

you aren't funny. its time to grow up, man...
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:10:28 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
The answer is, cops in schools, metal detectors, reinforce doors.

cool...as you said we can't give teachers proper supplies to teach our kids...how do you plan to pay for that?


No idea. We can stop by decreasing the handouts illegal immigrants get and the amount of help we give to other countries.
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:12:13 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
so what do you get out of this? does doing this on CE make you feel good about yourself?

Safety for our children.

you aren't funny. its time to grow up, man...

Nobodies being funny. Address the argument for once.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 3:13:03 PM
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iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
so what do you get out of this? does doing this on CE make you feel good about yourself?

Safety for our children.

you aren't funny. its time to grow up, man...

Nobodies being funny. Address the argument for once.

i have. its not worth it with you. i see what you're doing. Grow the fuck up....the shit you're doing is not helping. stop. but you'll continue to do it proving you truly don't give a fuck. disgusting...
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r4X0r
02/21/18 3:14:30 PM
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Freakz19 posted...
How about making guns illegal for civilians to own? There are plenty of non lethal ways for self defense if that is your argument.


I'm sure the criminals, who by definition are people who do not follow the law, will gladly turn in their already illegally owned firearms when you make them more illegal.
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:14:40 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
i have. its not worth it with you. i see what you're doing. Grow the fuck up....the shit you're doing is not helping. stop.

Keep covering for not having a reasonable objection.
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LordRazziel
02/21/18 3:14:54 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
The answer is, cops in schools, metal detectors, reinforce doors.


so put our kids in prison?

Already was armed guard at the FL shooting.
So make our schools look like the Gaza strip?
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:16:32 PM
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iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
i have. its not worth it with you. i see what you're doing. Grow the fuck up....the shit you're doing is not helping. stop.

Keep covering for not having a reasonable objection.


We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:16:58 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:21:08 PM
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iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...


Okay cool and irrelevant

I'm talking about teachers k-12. We shouldnt force them to pay for guns and training to keep the kids safe. Bad enough we expect them to take bullets for our kids.
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iClockwork
02/21/18 3:22:28 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...


Okay cool and irrelevant

I'm talking about teachers k-12. We shouldnt force them to pay for guns and training to keep the kids safe. Bad enough we expect them to take bullets for our kids.

Um yes we should... Diesel mechanics pay for their training and tools. If you don't want to be a teacher no one is forcing you to.
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ChainedRedone
02/21/18 3:22:44 PM
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I'm not even pro gun but I don't understand why people are against the idea of letting teachers conceal carry to school. There are schools (private) that already do this.

If they want to carry to school, let them.
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Caution999
02/21/18 3:22:55 PM
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I think teachers that are comfortable with the idea and know how to handle a firearm and pass a mental and physical test - if they really want to...I'm fine with, but on the whole I agree.

There's no reason to give someone a gun who isn't comfortable using it. I agree with either police and/or armed guards. The teacher's job is to teach.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 3:26:40 PM
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we've literally gotten to the point as a nation that if you strive to teach our youth you also have to be willing to pay to be an expert marksman and buy a weapon....this is really the reality people want to make the new normal...
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Giant_Aspirin
02/21/18 3:29:03 PM
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i agree with OP
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Paragon21XX
02/21/18 3:31:48 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...


Okay cool and irrelevant

I'm talking about teachers k-12. We shouldnt force them to pay for guns and training to keep the kids safe. Bad enough we expect them to take bullets for our kids.

What if they already have their own gun and someone is willing to give free training such as off-duty police officers? Any objections now?
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The_OD
02/21/18 3:31:51 PM
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iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...


Okay cool and irrelevant

I'm talking about teachers k-12. We shouldnt force them to pay for guns and training to keep the kids safe. Bad enough we expect them to take bullets for our kids.

Um yes we should... Diesel mechanics pay for their training and tools. If you don't want to be a teacher no one is forcing you to.

some teachers can't afford that, much less spend their own money buying the supplies they need in the schools to begin with.. I think if the parents would pool money together in the cities they live in, and if a teacher chooses to want to carry, if allowed by law, than the money that is pooled together by the parents, or citizens in general who don't have kids, can use that money to pay for training/gun
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:35:59 PM
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iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...


Okay cool and irrelevant

I'm talking about teachers k-12. We shouldnt force them to pay for guns and training to keep the kids safe. Bad enough we expect them to take bullets for our kids.

Um yes we should... Diesel mechanics pay for their training and tools. If you don't want to be a teacher no one is forcing you to.


Guns and gun training isnt a teachers job. Police officers dont have to pay for their training nor do military personal
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CableZL
02/21/18 3:36:57 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Um yes we should... Diesel mechanics pay for their training and tools. If you don't want to be a teacher no one is forcing you to.


Diesel mechanics are public employees?
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:36:58 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
we've literally gotten to the point as a nation that if you strive to teach our youth you also have to be willing to pay to be an expert marksman and buy a weapon....this is really the reality people want to make the new normal...

Which is insane.

Just have police officers in the schools
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 3:37:05 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
Any objections now?

you really think people will be willing to give free training, year round, across the nation, continuously for every new teacher every year.....is that something you think is possible?
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lilORANG
02/21/18 3:37:11 PM
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most teachers struggle with turning on the projector
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:37:55 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
I'm not even pro gun but I don't understand why people are against the idea of letting teachers conceal carry to school. There are schools (private) that already do this.

If they want to carry to school, let them.


Teachers arent trained for these situations.
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Jim_Stark
02/21/18 3:44:08 PM
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iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
i have. its not worth it with you. i see what you're doing. Grow the fuck up....the shit you're doing is not helping. stop.

Keep covering for not having a reasonable objection.

He's right, why are you doing this? Anyone can see you don't really believe this shit, it doesn't even make sense. It's like you're trying to troll, but you're not even good at it, it's way too transparent.

A bunch of kids were murdered last week and this is your reaction? Honestly, take a good hard look at yourself.
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 3:49:39 PM
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iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
iClockwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
We shouldnt force people to pay for their own supplies and training. its ridiculous

That's literally what college is...


Okay cool and irrelevant

I'm talking about teachers k-12. We shouldnt force them to pay for guns and training to keep the kids safe. Bad enough we expect them to take bullets for our kids.

Um yes we should... Diesel mechanics pay for their training and tools. If you don't want to be a teacher no one is forcing you to.


It's a good thing your idea will never happen because it's completely ridiculous and impossible to implement then
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darkjedilink
02/21/18 3:51:55 PM
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Freakz19 posted...
How about making guns illegal for civilians to own? There are plenty of non lethal ways for self defense if that is your argument.

Gotta repeal the Second Amendment, first.
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Dark_Spiret
02/21/18 3:55:37 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
The answer is, cops in schools, metal detectors, reinforce doors.
id be fine with those as long as it doesnt look like youre walking into a prison. be subtle with them. if teachers want to carry a gun then alright, but i dont like forcing it. and once again be subtle.
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Uncle Choad
02/21/18 4:00:45 PM
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We should do what TC says to a few high schools for 2-5 years and see what happens. No need to start that big.

It's like showing how progress in CA is creating more homeless drug addicts. At least it's confined to a single communist state and not widespread yet.
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 4:07:23 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
We should do what TC says to a few high schools for 2-5 years and see what happens. No need to start that big.

It's like showing how progress in CA is creating more homeless drug addicts. At least it's confined to a single communist state and not widespread yet.


Town in jersey.. East Brunswick will have police officers in them starting next week. Everyone seems to be happy about this.
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 4:09:58 PM
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Spooking posted...
I think we should turn all our public schools into military schools. We'll gain the following:

- increased military budget
- get kids the discipline they desperately need
- get kids interested in the military (ROTC)


Well that's a horrible and terrifying idea
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 4:11:03 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Spooking posted...
I think we should turn all our public schools into military schools. We'll gain the following:

- increased military budget
- get kids the discipline they desperately need
- get kids interested in the military (ROTC)


Well that's a horrible and terrifying idea

Why
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Paragon21XX
02/21/18 4:14:52 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Any objections now?

you really think people will be willing to give free training, year round, across the nation, continuously for every new teacher every year.....is that something you think is possible?

Yes. I believe most police would prefer to train and qualify school staff to properly deal with a school shooting situation pro bono rather than have to personally deal with the aftermath of what is essentially a turkey shoot until police show up to take control of the situation after there are potentially dozens of casualties.
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 4:15:39 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Spooking posted...
I think we should turn all our public schools into military schools. We'll gain the following:

- increased military budget
- get kids the discipline they desperately need
- get kids interested in the military (ROTC)


Well that's a horrible and terrifying idea

Why


You mean aside from the fact that military indoctrination camps for the youth are the shit out of fascism from a century ago? But to his specific "points":

1. We don't need to increase the military budget, at all.
2. School is about learning, not discipline
3. We aren't struggling for soldiers and need an increase of them, at all.
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