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Antifar
02/21/18 11:15:03 AM
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https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-finds-courts-nationwide-ordering-consumers-be-arrested-and-jailed-bidding-private-debt
In the first-ever report on the extent and impact of cooperation between courts and the private debt collection industry nationwide, the American Civil Liberties Union found courts in 26 states and Puerto Rico in which judges issued arrest warrants for alleged debtors at the request of private debt collectors.

This practice violates the many state and federal laws as well as international human rights standards that prohibit the jailing of debtors. It worsens their financial struggles by subjecting them to court appearances, arrest warrants that appear on background checks, and jail time that interfere with their wages, their jobs, their ability to find housing, and more.

The private debt collection industry uses prosecutors and judges as weapons against millions of Americans who cant afford to pay their bills, said Jennifer Turner, author of A Pound of Flesh: The Criminalization of Private Debt, and principal human rights researcher at the ACLU. Consumers have little chance of justice when our courts take the debt collectors side in almost every case even to the point of ordering people jailed until they pay up.

An estimated one in three adults in the United States has a debt that has been turned over to a private collection company, according to the Urban Institute. More than 6,000 of these companies operate in the U.S. At the bidding of the private debt collection industry, courts issue tens of thousands of arrest warrants every year when people dont appear in court to deal with unpaid civil debt judgments.

They had a warrant for my arrest and I asked them for what, he didnt say what it was for. He said, Hell tell you later, recalled Tracie Mozie of Dickinson, Texas. Two armed U.S. marshals had entered her bedroom in 2014 to arrest her for failing to appear in court over a $1,500 federal student loan she took out in 1986 to pay for truck driving school. The loan had grown to more than $13,000 with interest and fees, an amount Mozie cant afford because she is unemployed and subsists on disability benefits. She has a prosthetic leg that she wasnt wearing, but the marshals shackled her feet and waist after she put it on. She was jailed overnight. Im scared someone is going to come to my door and get me again.

A Pound of Flesh includes dozens of stories of people who, like Mozie, have been jailed or threatened with jail by the debt collection industry with help from prosecutors and judges, including:

A mother of three in Indiana was jailed for missing hearings over medical bills for her cancer treatment. She was physically unable to climb the stairs to the womens section of the jail, so she was held in a mens mental health unit.

A Georgia woman was arrested while caring for her terminally ill mother. A debt collection company had bought a 6-year-old rental debt her landlord claimed she owed after evicting her from her trailer home. She was jailed overnight. Her mother died two days later.

In Missouri, a single mother of a toddler took out a high-interest payday loan of $425. She wasnt able to pay it back, and the creditor sued. She didnt go to court and was arrested and jailed for three days.

The tyranny of the private debt collection industry causes financial ruin for people already struggling to make ends meet, and courts are willing to routinely violate peoples due process rights to do debt collectors dirty work, said Turner. Our courts have become mills for these companies, approving without evaluating scores of arrest warrants, wage garnishments, property seizures, default judgments, and other legal actions against consumers accused by debt collectors of owing money.

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SomeonesAlt
02/21/18 11:18:39 AM
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So they've effectively brought back debtors prison. Wow, fuck that.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/21/18 11:20:38 AM
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Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.
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Antifar
02/21/18 11:21:22 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?
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_OujiDoza_
02/21/18 11:22:44 AM
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Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

Ooooh give it time, my friend...give it time...
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voldothegr8
02/21/18 11:23:26 AM
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On one hand, scummy as fuck and highly illegal. Every judge who has cooperated should be banned from being a judge.

On the other hand, pay your god damn bills and these people wouldn't hunt you in the first place.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/21/18 11:23:30 AM
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Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?


Well yeah you're right. It's just a shame that stuff like this doesn't provoke political action in the way it should.
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BLAKUboy
02/21/18 11:24:14 AM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
Ooooh give it time, my friend...give it time...

Should probably be rephrased to "Who's really gonna come in here and defend this well?"
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Intro2Logic
02/21/18 11:24:17 AM
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Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

This would be the part in any sitcom where an infamous shitposter barges through the door.
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_OujiDoza_
02/21/18 11:26:26 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

This would be the part in any sitcom where an infamous shitposter barges through the door.

IN 3...2...1...
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Muffinz0rz
02/21/18 11:26:57 AM
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hey everyone
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/21/18 11:26:57 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

This would be the part in any sitcom where an infamous shitposter barges through the door.


@The_Ad . . . *gets shot*
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ZombiePelican
02/21/18 11:27:28 AM
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Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

Admiral, Mal Fet, or Southcoast
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E32005
02/21/18 11:28:23 AM
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Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

the typical CE trumpeter probably.

or some contrarian troll
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teepan95
02/21/18 11:28:34 AM
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Tag for the argument
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SomeonesAlt
02/21/18 11:28:35 AM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

Admiral, Mal Fet, or Southcoast

Admiral is more intelligent than that, and the other two would only defend it if Trump or his people told them to do so.
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NinjaWarrior455
02/21/18 11:30:23 AM
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This seems like a job for UR.
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E32005
02/21/18 11:31:15 AM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Antifar posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Should be 500 topic.

Will be 30 at most.

You need a healthy argument for 500. Who's really gonna come in here to defend this?

Admiral, Mal Fet, or Southcoast

Admiral is more intelligent than that, and the other two would only defend it if Trump or his people told them to do so.

nah dude. ive seen plenty of topics where addy just shit-shilled to piss people off
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Antifar
02/21/18 2:58:35 PM
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Bump
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YellowSUV
02/21/18 3:02:30 PM
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This should be headline news but the American oligarchy will not allow that.
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Questionmarktarius
02/21/18 3:05:59 PM
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failing to appear in court

This.
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Punctus_Pilot
02/21/18 3:08:09 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
On one hand, scummy as fuck and highly illegal. Every judge who has cooperated should be banned from being a judge.

On the other hand, pay your god damn bills and these people wouldn't hunt you in the first place.

This is the closest to defending it we've had in this topic. Some light victim blaming
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_MorningStar
02/21/18 3:08:25 PM
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Antifar posted...
A Georgia woman was arrested while caring for her terminally ill mother. A debt collection company had bought a 6-year-old rental debt her landlord claimed she owed after evicting her from her trailer home. She was jailed overnight. Her mother died two days later.

What in the literal fuck?
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JE19426
02/23/18 3:24:11 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
failing to appear in court

This.


This what?
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Questionmarktarius
02/23/18 10:10:16 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
failing to appear in court

This.


This what?

That's why these people are going to jail. Not due to being buried in debt, but for ignoring a summons to appear in court about it.
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JE19426
02/23/18 10:20:56 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
That's why these people are going to jail. Not due to being buried in debt, but for ignoring a summons to appear in court about it.


People don't go to jail for ignoring civil summons. If it was a criminal summons then going to jail was a possibility whether they turned up or not.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/24/18 4:17:29 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Will be 30 at most.


29 including this point, close enough.
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Sir Will
02/24/18 4:21:21 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
Admiral is more intelligent than that,

LOL
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Unreliableness
02/24/18 4:22:26 PM
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A debtors prison is a good way to see to it that people don't literally go delinquent on debt to the point of effective robbery.
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Kazi1212
02/24/18 4:36:21 PM
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And people want to trust the government
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StarLightGlimmR
02/24/18 4:38:59 PM
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When you let $1300 grow to $13,000. wow fuck you, pay your damn bills.
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Manocheese
02/24/18 4:43:35 PM
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They don't have enough money to pay their debts, but they always seem to have enough money to buy the latest iPhone is what I would say if I felt like doing some light trolling.
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gunplagirl
02/24/18 4:43:56 PM
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StarLightGlimmR posted...
When you let $1300 grow to $13,000. wow fuck you, pay your damn bills.

Why don't the poor SIMPLY HAVE MORE MONEY? Genius.

I nominate this guy for an economic Nobel prize for this groundbreaking idea that will end global hunger, deforestation, spread of preventable diseases and get a colony of 1,000,000 on Mars by 2030!
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fire_bolt
02/24/18 4:45:54 PM
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Happens to people who owe child support too. Have a friend who was arrested for failure to pay back child support ON A CHILD WHO WAS LIVING WITH HIM at the time. Fucked up
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YellowSUV
02/24/18 4:47:47 PM
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Putting people in jail is really going to let them earn money to pay off bills.
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gunplagirl
02/24/18 4:57:38 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
Putting people in jail is really going to let them earn money to pay off bills.

Gotta keep slave labor positions filled in the US somehow. Pay them nickels or dimes per hour and solitary if they refuse.
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DarkTransient
02/28/18 5:57:28 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
failing to appear in court

This.

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Endofall
03/02/18 2:42:48 AM
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Those states are not surprising
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Endofall
03/04/18 3:41:19 AM
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Those states are not surprising
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SubtletyRefuge
03/06/18 1:49:14 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
This seems like a job for UR.

UnfairRepresent can't do shit
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sktgamer_13dude
03/06/18 1:53:58 AM
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YellowSUV posted...
Putting people in jail is really going to let them earn money to pay off bills.

Probably put into for-profit prisons that could be paying everyone to put said people into their prisons. All a scheme.
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I is smart
03/06/18 2:09:24 AM
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They had a warrant for my arrest and I asked them for what, he didnt say what it was for. He said, Hell tell you later, recalled Tracie Mozie of Dickinson, Texas. Two armed U.S. marshals had entered her bedroom in 2014 to arrest her for failing to appear in court over a $1,500 federal student loan she took out in 1986 to pay for truck driving school. The loan had grown to more than $13,000 with interest and fees, an amount Mozie cant afford because she is unemployed and subsists on disability benefits. She has a prosthetic leg that she wasnt wearing, but the marshals shackled her feet and waist after she put it on. She was jailed overnight. Im scared someone is going to come to my door and get me again.


How the fuck do you go nearly 30 years without being able to pay back a $1,500 loan to the point it reaches $13,000 owed?
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iClockwork
03/06/18 2:14:11 AM
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I is smart posted...
How the fuck do you go nearly 30 years without being able to pay back a $1,500 loan to the point it reaches $13,000 owed?

You'd be surprised how routinely people buy food with Food Stamps then turn around and buy scratch cards. A large percentage of people cannot manage money, hopefully jail will give them time to reflect on it.
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sktgamer_13dude
03/06/18 2:14:53 AM
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iClockwork posted...
I is smart posted...
How the fuck do you go nearly 30 years without being able to pay back a $1,500 loan to the point it reaches $13,000 owed?

You'd be surprised how routinely people buy food with Food Stamps then turn around and buy scratch cards. A large percentage of people cannot manage money, hopefully jail will give them time to reflect on it.

Dude shut the fuck up with your shitposting
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iClockwork
03/06/18 2:27:54 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Dude shut the fuck up with your shitposting

Nothing i've said is untrue. The amount of people in dire financial situations back up my story.
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CiIantro
03/06/18 2:30:10 AM
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Should have paid their bills. Fair, next.
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loafy013
03/06/18 2:58:31 AM
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I is smart posted...
They had a warrant for my arrest and I asked them for what, he didnt say what it was for. He said, Hell tell you later, recalled Tracie Mozie of Dickinson, Texas. Two armed U.S. marshals had entered her bedroom in 2014 to arrest her for failing to appear in court over a $1,500 federal student loan she took out in 1986 to pay for truck driving school. The loan had grown to more than $13,000 with interest and fees, an amount Mozie cant afford because she is unemployed and subsists on disability benefits. She has a prosthetic leg that she wasnt wearing, but the marshals shackled her feet and waist after she put it on. She was jailed overnight. Im scared someone is going to come to my door and get me again.


How the fuck do you go nearly 30 years without being able to pay back a $1,500 loan to the point it reaches $13,000 owed?

I bolded the part that most likely explains why she couldn't come up with the money. Medical bills probably caused most of her problems.
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RoseIsHorriblle
03/06/18 3:04:06 AM
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Fair next.
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