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darkprince45
02/21/18 10:03:44 AM
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Sorry, truth hurts
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CyricZ
02/21/18 10:04:42 AM
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Punisher > all

Fight me
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Irony
02/21/18 10:05:03 AM
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I prefer Blacktail's handling, fire rate, and not taking up a quarter of the case with its stock.
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Hairy-man
02/21/18 10:05:24 AM
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TMP>>>>>>all handguns
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darkprince45
02/21/18 10:05:42 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Punisher > all

Fight me

Hairy-man posted...
TMP>>>>>>all handguns

Wtf
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rabbi_baby
02/21/18 10:06:12 AM
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At least 3 of my 26 RE4 runs were straight up handcannon runs. Shit was cash money yo
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Romulox28
02/21/18 10:06:14 AM
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i never thought there was a debate with this, its always been the red9
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LinksLiege
02/21/18 10:07:48 AM
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Red9 + Semi-automatic Sniper Rifle + Striker = win

Hairy-man posted...
TMP>>>>>>all handguns

If we're talking exclusively about the red room in the castle where the cage drops down then sure. Otherwise, lol.
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Garioshi
02/21/18 10:07:57 AM
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Hairy-man posted...
TMP>>>>>>all handguns

This, melee attacks (especially the suplex) are way more efficient than using a handgun. Whenever I play, handgun ammo just piles up in my inventory.
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rabbi_baby
02/21/18 10:08:03 AM
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Ok, what about the riot shotgun vs striker?
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:08:43 AM
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It really annoyed me that Luis wasn't a part of the Merecenaries mini game. He would've had the Red9.
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Garioshi
02/21/18 10:09:26 AM
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rabbi_baby posted...
Ok, what about the riot shotgun vs striker?

Striker saved my ass many times on Professional when Riot Gun wouldn't have. The spread is fantastic.
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Irony
02/21/18 10:10:04 AM
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rabbi_baby posted...
Ok, what about the riot shotgun vs striker?

Riot is the worst shotgun. I don't even buy it anymore. I keep the first one until striker.
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darkprince45
02/21/18 9:43:04 PM
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Striker was fun af
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darkprince45
02/23/18 12:07:17 AM
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Upp
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southcoast09
02/23/18 12:08:05 AM
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No, youre so right, tc. I didnt even know this was up for debate.
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darkprince45
02/23/18 12:11:15 AM
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Dude, in re4 prime days on this website. There would be heated debates
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/23/18 12:12:03 AM
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Matilda cause accuracy is for the bullet poor
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darkprince45
02/23/18 12:12:50 AM
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Matilda is fun but burns through ammo so quixk
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Turbam
02/23/18 12:14:15 AM
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Finally, a good thread
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Garioshi
02/23/18 2:50:37 PM
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seriously though who uses handguns to deal damage
low-damage weapons are exclusively for leg shots to do melee attacks and maybe medium distance sniping
rifles are for sniping, regenerators, and use against some bosses if you don't just rocket launcher them
shotguns are for large crowds/very close encounters, dr salvador/bella sisters, colmillos, novistadors, and plagas
magnums are for bosses and maybe garradors if you're sick of their shit
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Lost_All_Senses
02/23/18 2:52:03 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
i never thought there was a debate with this, its always been the red9

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Garioshi
02/23/18 4:32:31 PM
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seriously though what is even the point of any of the handguns when you have the tmp
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AvantgardeAClue
02/23/18 4:34:29 PM
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Garioshi posted...
seriously though what is even the point of any of the handguns when you have the tmp


Sometimes you want to kill them with melee attacks too, Red-9 increases that chance, especially if you always go for headshots
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thanosibe
02/23/18 4:35:23 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Romulox28 posted...
i never thought there was a debate with this, its always been the red9

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GiftedACIII
02/23/18 4:35:25 PM
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You can do that glitch with the striker too.
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Payzmaykr
02/23/18 4:36:10 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Garioshi posted...
seriously though what is even the point of any of the handguns when you have the tmp


Sometimes you want to kill them with melee attacks too, Red-9 increases that chance, especially if you always go for headshots

Exactly. Its almost as strong as a shotgun.
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AvantgardeAClue
02/23/18 4:37:47 PM
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Confession though

I always go for the Punisher on Professional since it punches through enemies and that's how I always die the fastest on Professional
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VideoboysaysCube
02/23/18 4:40:03 PM
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In the spirit of bring up ancient debates...

Is Metroid Prime a FPS???
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AvantgardeAClue
02/23/18 4:41:01 PM
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VideoboysaysCube posted...
In the spirit of bring up ancient debates...

Is Metroid Prime a FPS???


Why wouldn't it be
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Evthean
02/23/18 4:41:42 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
Red9 + Semi-automatic Sniper Rifle + Striker = win

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thanosibe
02/23/18 4:42:21 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
VideoboysaysCube posted...
In the spirit of bring up ancient debates...

Is Metroid Prime a FPS???


Why wouldn't it be
I've heard because it's not the traditional two stick movement and aiming set up as stuff like Halo and CoD. Even though it's clearly a first person perspective.
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Musourenka
02/23/18 4:43:31 PM
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I usually go for Blacktail just so I can focus on upgrading the Shotgun and Rifle.
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AvantgardeAClue
02/23/18 4:45:04 PM
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thanosibe posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
VideoboysaysCube posted...
In the spirit of bring up ancient debates...

Is Metroid Prime a FPS???


Why wouldn't it be
I've heard because it's not the traditional two stick movement and aiming set up as stuff like Halo and CoD. Even though it's clearly a first person perspective.


Here's a better question

If I play GTAV entirely in FPS mode does that mean it's technically a FPS?
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Garioshi
02/23/18 4:45:55 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Garioshi posted...
seriously though what is even the point of any of the handguns when you have the tmp


Sometimes you want to kill them with melee attacks too, Red-9 increases that chance, especially if you always go for headshots

Exactly. Its almost as strong as a shotgun.

Only when it's fully upgraded. When the TMP is fully upgraded, its DPS easily outstrips the Red9 and is far more ammo-efficient to boot.
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EnragedSlith
02/23/18 4:46:02 PM
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The only handgun worth using is the Punisher because its best at staggering enemies. Red9 is the worst because it takes up space you should be using for the TMP and Mine Thrower. Both are far superior at big enemy killing, which even the fully upgraded Red9 sucks at.

Riot Gun is also the best shotty.
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Garioshi
02/23/18 4:49:27 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Mine Thrower

Really? I bought one at the beginning of a recent playthrough and got maybe 15 mines across the entire playthrough.

EnragedSlith posted...
Riot Gun is also the best shotty.

The Riot Gun may as well be a handgun with how small its shot spread is.
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DrizztLink
02/23/18 4:52:25 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Mind-bogglingly incorrect statements

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TheGrindery
02/23/18 4:58:15 PM
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Basic TMP is so bad that most of us don't bother wanting to upgrade it and find out how it ends up.
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Sami1000
02/23/18 5:07:31 PM
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Red9 pro's

-nice dmg
-you get it pretty early
-great accuracy with the handle
-cheaper than blacktail, even with the handle

Cons

-takes way more space
-most unsteady handgun without the handle

Blacktail pro's

- fast fire rate and highest DPS
- fast handling and turning
- bigger clip than r9
- 4.5dmg is not bad, its the second highest

Cons

- You get it much later than r9
- kinda late bloomer with the upgrades
- more expensive in total than r9

Lets be honest here. The only reason R9 is actually better is because you get it much earlier and the upgrades becomes available much sooner. If you'd get Blacktail at the same time as R9, most would had picked BL up.
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Sami1000
02/23/18 5:11:52 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
The only handgun worth using is the Punisher because its best at staggering enemies. Red9 is the worst because it takes up space you should be using for the TMP and Mine Thrower. Both are far superior at big enemy killing, which even the fully upgraded Red9 sucks at.

Riot Gun is also the best shotty.


Nope, just no. What is the use of shotgun? Crowd control. You can't use the shotgun as intended when its spread is so small. The very first shotgun is even better, because even with similar spreads, its exclusive upgrade makes it the only long range shotty, meaning its dmg is actually higher than riot gun because dmg doesn't drop in distance
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Alucard188
02/23/18 5:13:48 PM
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I'm all about that starter 9mm. The extra crit damage is sexy.
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thanosibe
02/23/18 5:23:15 PM
#43:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
thanosibe posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
VideoboysaysCube posted...
In the spirit of bring up ancient debates...

Is Metroid Prime a FPS???


Why wouldn't it be
I've heard because it's not the traditional two stick movement and aiming set up as stuff like Halo and CoD. Even though it's clearly a first person perspective.


Here's a better question

If I play GTAV entirely in FPS mode does that mean it's technically a FPS?
If there's an option to change perspectives like Fallout 3, I'd just call it a shooter. To me a FPS is a shooter that is in the first person perspective that can't be changed by the player.
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thanosibe
02/23/18 5:26:05 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
The only handgun worth using is the Punisher because its best at staggering enemies. Red9 is the worst because it takes up space you should be using for the TMP and Mine Thrower. Both are far superior at big enemy killing, which even the fully upgraded Red9 sucks at.

Riot Gun is also the best shotty.
This. The Striker is not near as efffective or targeted as the Riot Gun. It's just weakly blasts a lot of shot everywhere and has a high ammo capacity, making it seem superior, when fully upgraded. It's like saying the semi is better than the rifle because it's "easy" to use.

Though I guess in both cases it depends on what your goals are with the use of each gun.
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CharlesBronson
02/23/18 5:29:31 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Mine Thrower

Really? I bought one at the beginning of a recent playthrough and got maybe 15 mines across the entire playthrough.


once you have 7 mines in your inventory you they stop appearing but as long as you use it there is more than enough ammo for it
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Garioshi
02/23/18 5:39:23 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
Garioshi posted...
Mine Thrower

Really? I bought one at the beginning of a recent playthrough and got maybe 15 mines across the entire playthrough.


once you have 7 mines in your inventory you they stop appearing but as long as you use it there is more than enough ammo for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQwbWxyIM0Q

Fuck. I should have guessed something like that would be in place. I assume the same applies to magnum ammo?
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EnragedSlith
02/23/18 10:30:31 PM
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Garioshi posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Mine Thrower

Really? I bought one at the beginning of a recent playthrough and got maybe 15 mines across the entire playthrough.

EnragedSlith posted...
Riot Gun is also the best shotty.

The Riot Gun may as well be a handgun with how small its shot spread is.

Enemies drop the ammo you expend. Also, you get a full refill every time you upgrade capacity, so the trick is not reloading the mine thrower. It comes out to an extra 20+ grenades in a play through for very little investment.

Also, the Riot Gun is good because of its small focused spread and fast turn speed. The Striker is crazy good at what it does and takes up the least amount of space of any shotgun, but its expensive, so thats really just a player preference

DrizztLink posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Mind-bogglingly incorrect statements

You can disagree, but youre wrong. Pistols are for staggering only. Why would you waste ammo?
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Garioshi
02/23/18 10:41:15 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Enemies drop the ammo you expend. Also, you get a full refill every time you upgrade capacity, so the trick is not reloading the mine thrower. It comes out to an extra 20+ grenades in a play through for very little investment.

Funny, I always hold off on magnum ammo because I'm afraid of running out. Will use my precious Broken Butterfly more on subsequent playthroughs. I'm quite aware of the capacity upgrade refill, though.
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TheGrindery
02/24/18 1:06:34 AM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Garioshi posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Mine Thrower

Really? I bought one at the beginning of a recent playthrough and got maybe 15 mines across the entire playthrough.

EnragedSlith posted...
Riot Gun is also the best shotty.

The Riot Gun may as well be a handgun with how small its shot spread is.

Enemies drop the ammo you expend. Also, you get a full refill every time you upgrade capacity, so the trick is not reloading the mine thrower. It comes out to an extra 20+ grenades in a play through for very little investment.

Also, the Riot Gun is good because of its small focused spread and fast turn speed. The Striker is crazy good at what it does and takes up the least amount of space of any shotgun, but its expensive, so thats really just a player preference

DrizztLink posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Mind-bogglingly incorrect statements

You can disagree, but youre wrong. Pistols are for staggering only. Why would you waste ammo?

You would waste ammo because it's fucking RE4 and it makes you feel like Rambo and almost always ruins the sense of survival horror.
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EverDownward
02/24/18 1:09:32 AM
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Hairy-man posted...
TMP>>>>>>all handguns

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