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metralo
02/21/18 12:01:12 AM
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god, these conspiracy theorists are the fucking scum of the earth. absolutely dreadful humans.
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Lathissamus
02/21/18 12:02:11 AM
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If Hogg knew the shooter would snap, as he and other students have professed, perhaps he could have told his father about it. Oh but wait, his father was in the FBI. it would not have mattered anyway. That's the funny thing about the limelight kid. Often the lights can come crrashing down on your head
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BeatScrafty2
02/21/18 10:17:25 AM
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metralo posted...
god, these conspiracy theorists are the fucking scum of the earth. absolutely dreadful humans.


I used to believe these people were just really bad trolls. But nope, far from it.
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:18:56 AM
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How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.
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jpenny2
02/21/18 10:25:52 AM
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Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

:/
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:28:34 AM
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I'm just saying I've seen a lot of conspiracy theory topics on CE over the years that involve either JFK, 9/11, aliens, etc etc.

Maybe not from the people in this topic specifically, but I don't think it's fair to judge others over equally as silly conspiracies when you believe in some of your own.
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Uncle Choad
02/21/18 10:32:06 AM
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Why are people upset?
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jpenny2
02/21/18 10:32:18 AM
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Caution999 posted...
I'm just saying I've seen a lot of conspiracy theory topics on CE over the years that involve either JFK, 9/11, aliens, etc etc.

Maybe not from the people in this topic specifically, but I don't think it's fair to judge others over equally as silly conspiracies when you believe in some of your own.

So because other crazy conspiracy theories exist, we shouldn't judge this one? I guess I can't argue with that logic. :/
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clearaflagrantj
02/21/18 10:33:07 AM
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Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:34:11 AM
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I am of the firm belief that people are allowed to question the obvious.

I don't think anyone who questions JFK or 9/11 is unAmerican. I think it's a valid response to horrible tragedies.
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Uncle Choad
02/21/18 10:35:39 AM
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Caution999 posted...
I am of the firm belief that people may believe what they want to believe, and are allowed to question things.

I don't think anyone who questions JFK or 9/11 is unAmerican. I think it's a valid response to horrible tragedies.


I mean...the more these things happen, the more rights Americans lose (which is pretty much what Communism is trying to do).

They kind of keep playing into the politicians' hands. Why would they want to prevent these things?

Was the FBI useless on purpose?
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:36:09 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others


There's literally zero irrefutable evidence to back up any 9/11 conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, or aliens.
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Uncle Choad
02/21/18 10:38:20 AM
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Caution999 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others


There's literally zero irrefutable evidence to back up any 9/11 conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, or aliens.


There it is, folks. Pack it up.
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Steve Nick
02/21/18 10:38:55 AM
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Caution999 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others


There's literally zero irrefutable evidence to back up any 9/11 conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, or aliens.


It's not a conspiracy theory if there's irrefutable evidence.
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:42:26 AM
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People get on the internet and they choose to believe what they've been indoctrinated to believe. They will seek out the narrative they want or desire.

I don't think people are "stupid" for questioning this event. I think they have a right to question all tragedies. I think the problem is just how anyone on the internet can whip up some theory and they end up sticking for dumb reasons.

Honestly, I don't believe Trump Jr is any more of a fool than any other conspiracy theorist.
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Muffinz0rz
02/21/18 10:42:32 AM
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Steve Nick posted...
Caution999 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others


There's literally zero irrefutable evidence to back up any 9/11 conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, or aliens.


It's not a conspiracy theory if there's irrefutable evidence.

source?
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:46:50 AM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
To what extent are we talking JFKs conspiracy? We all know the mob killed him...right?

Am I insane for thinking that?


Not according to the official story. That's a conspiracy theory whether you like it or not. In fact, the term "conspiracy theory" was actually popularized by JFK's assassination.
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Funkydog
02/21/18 10:49:26 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
David's family appear to be a liberal family who are fans of CNN as they moved to Florida from California in 2014.


Wat.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/21/18 10:50:04 AM
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People who spread stuff like this are scum.

The thing is, families of victims/survivors also gets LOTS of abuse for supposedly pushing a fake tragedy. It's sick.
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Complete_Idi0t
02/21/18 10:53:00 AM
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Caution999 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others


There's literally zero irrefutable evidence to back up any 9/11 conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, or aliens.


What about the office workers who heard all the noise while the NWO was drilling into the walls to install the nano-thermite?

And that bizarre purchase order Boeing got that wanted them to add missle mounting points to their airliners?

Explain those
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Uncle Choad
02/21/18 10:54:45 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
People who spread stuff like this are scum.

The thing is, families of victims/survivors also gets LOTS of abuse for supposedly pushing a fake tragedy. It's sick.


Better exploit their misery for political points (and disarming a population).
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Caution999
02/21/18 10:58:14 AM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Caution999 posted...
I am of the firm belief that people may believe what they want to believe, and are allowed to question things.

I don't think anyone who questions JFK or 9/11 is unAmerican. I think it's a valid response to horrible tragedies.


I mean...the more these things happen, the more rights Americans lose (which is pretty much what Communism is trying to do).

They kind of keep playing into the politicians' hands. Why would they want to prevent these things?

Was the FBI useless on purpose?


It really is a sickening thought. The idea that the FBI didn't take action and perhaps even "let" this event occur just to push a particular narrative? Whew, I pray to god that isn't the case - because if this conspiracy theory were true, I would lose all hope for humanity. So far, there's no evidence to suggest they let this happen, thank god.

Might be evidence they were too busy with something else or didn't take the threat seriously enough though.
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Shuto-uke
02/21/18 10:58:54 AM
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If you think about it, Don Jr may end being worse than his daddy. His daddy wasnt so openly terrible (just secretly) in his 30s. Donny jr. will be commenting Id hit it on underage social media pics or maybe he will go to funerals and say lol! PWNED! By the time he is 60
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Antifar
02/21/18 10:59:08 AM
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I for one am shocked to find that the guy whose recent involvement in politics began with spouting baseless accusations on Twitter would have a son who approves of spouting baseless accusations on Twitter.
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jpenny2
02/21/18 10:59:42 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Might be evidence they were too busy with something else or didn't take the threat seriously enough though.

Didn't Trump already confirm that? Sad!
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_Near_
02/21/18 11:00:44 AM
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this is my shocked face
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Steve Nick
02/21/18 11:06:22 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Caution999 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Caution999 posted...
How many of you guys think 9/11 is a conspiracy though?

"wtf I hate conspiracy theories now"

You can't subscribe to dumb conspiracy theories, then judge others for believing other dumb conspiracy theories.

Some conspiracy theories are more plausbile than others


There's literally zero irrefutable evidence to back up any 9/11 conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, or aliens.


It's not a conspiracy theory if there's irrefutable evidence.

source?


try dictionary.com
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Funkydog
02/21/18 11:10:44 AM
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Steve Nick posted...
try dictionary.com

I mean, I think he was saying there isn't any credible evidence. Just.. worded it weirdly >.>
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SomeonesAlt
02/21/18 11:13:37 AM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
Most of them don't really believe it. They see it being posted on /pol/ and /r/the_donald and think "LOL I CAN GET THOSE LIBRALS ON GAMEFAQS SO MAD WITH THIS" and run here to post it. There is literally a topic on /pol/ right now that funbazooka is C&Ping these from.

I'm somehow not surprised that Funbazooka is a 4chinner
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CommonStar
02/21/18 11:14:06 AM
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The sickening part of these mentally ill people pushing this conspiracy theory is that you know one of these kids are gonna eventually get hurt by some small minded dude who believes in these conspiracies.
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Muffinz0rz
02/21/18 12:10:02 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Steve Nick posted...
try dictionary.com

I mean, I think he was saying there isn't any credible evidence. Just.. worded it weirdly >.>

this
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Ben_Ruggiero
02/21/18 12:12:57 PM
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Damn I just saw two things on Facebook about this Hogg guy and now here
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 12:23:45 PM
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Anyone supporting this conspiracy theory is objectively a piece of shit and deserves to be called one, judged, and shunned from society. Period.
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Funbazooka
02/21/18 1:58:38 PM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
Most of them don't really believe it. They see it being posted on /pol/ and /r/the_donald and think "LOL I CAN GET THOSE LIBRALS ON GAMEFAQS SO MAD WITH THIS" and run here to post it. There is literally a topic on /pol/ right now that funbazooka is C&Ping these from.

You browse 4chan as well? Cool!
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Funbazooka
02/21/18 2:32:37 PM
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I get laughs out of pol too. They can go overboard for sure, to say the least. Some of what they're sharing about this shooting and the activist students doesn't really seem like a red flag or even a concerning coincidence. For the example, the video that David Hogg recorded in Dec of last year at some California beach of a non-incident with a lifeguard? So what? Many of them keep referring to that as if it really means something but I don't see it.
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 2:34:46 PM
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Oh yes, /pol/ is completely hilarious. What with their affinity for nazi memes and use of their imagery "ironically"
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 2:35:44 PM
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He is actually flubbing lines; I was an amateur stage actor for a few years and dropped out of Juilliard... That is a nervous actor.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 2:43:15 PM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
He is actually flubbing lines; I was an amateur stage actor for a few years and dropped out of Juilliard... That is a nervous actor.


No he's not. He's a kid remembering details about traumatic events.

He's definitely not that. He's also clearly not a high school student.
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Funbazooka
02/21/18 2:46:28 PM
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I'm posting this odd inconsistency or contradiction not because I don't believe a shooting didn't occur. I think it did.

Video that David Hogg recorded while he and others were supposedly hiding during the shooting:

https://gopreload.org/huge-video-evidence-must-watch-david-hogg-son-fbi-agent-caught-video-interviewing-student-shooting-4-hours-ahead-actual-shooting

Watch and notice at 56 secs in he states he is recording at 9:32 BUT the shooting took place at 2:19 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/15/us/florida-school-shooting-map.html

The heavily armed man, identified as Nikolas Cruz, 19, arrived at the school in an Uber at 2:19 p.m., shortly before dismissal time.

Mr. Cruz, who had been expelled from the school, concealed himself in the crowd and was among the hundreds of people fleeing the building, authorities said. After leaving the school, he walked to a Walmart and bought a drink at a Subway, according to authorities. At 3:41 p.m., he was arrested by the police
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 2:49:33 PM
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It's always nice when the pieces of trash who continue this type of nonsense reveal themselves publicly
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GuyCarlPeterson
02/21/18 2:53:49 PM
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I don't think anyone believes the shooting didn't happen. They believe a lot of kids are being coached on what to say.
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GeneralZhao
02/21/18 2:55:42 PM
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we have a dude in here claiming he went to Juilliard lmao
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creativerealms
02/21/18 2:56:05 PM
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The whole crisis actor thing is horrible. It trivializes a real tragedy, attacks the survivors and the families of survivors, and over all is just in poor taste.

Anyway this is conspericy theorist logic.
1: Tragedy's never happen. There has never been a single mass shooting, no one ever dies in them. It's always actors, the same actors at that.
2: No one dies of natural causes, no that is always murder. Someone who does of a heart attack or a car accident knew too much and had to die.
3: The simplest answer is never the answer. It is always complex. Screw Occam's Razor it's never the case.
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Samurontai
02/21/18 3:50:17 PM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
I don't think anyone believes the shooting didn't happen. They believe a lot of kids are being coached on what to say.


This is absolutey false

Plenty of people believe it didn't happen.
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Funbazooka
02/21/18 3:53:18 PM
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There definitely are some out there who believe the whole thing is a hoax. Questioning the elements (motives, connections, contradictions) surrounding the shooting is not the same thing as believing the shooting itself is a hoax
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