Poll of the Day > florida gov rick scott said they'd consider anything to stop gun violence in FL

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Mead
02/22/18 7:56:25 PM
#65:


TigerTycoon posted...
What gives you the right to tell people in Florida how they should be allowed to live?


The fact that my younger sister goes to school there and Id rather not have her get shot by a disturbed person that can walk into a store and walk out 15 minutes later with an assault rifle.

Even the Supreme Court recognizes that automatic weapons are not covered by the second amendment, and practically all law enforcement and veteran groups think those kinds of weapons should not be in the hands of the general populace.

Theyre weapons of warfare and carnage, they serve no other purpose unlike other firearms that can serve a proper function in society when owned by trained and responsible citizens.
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BlackScythe0
02/23/18 12:01:34 PM
#66:


It's florida so they will declare porn a public health risk in the same day they refuse to ban private ownership of weapons of war.
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 12:04:21 PM
#67:


TigerTycoon posted...
What gives you the right to tell people in Florida how they should be allowed to live?

Democracy. Vote in the people who agree with you and enforce federal law over state law.

Why is this concept so difficult?
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Lokarin
02/23/18 12:06:33 PM
#68:


knivesX2004 posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
What gives you the right to tell people in Florida how they should be allowed to live?

Democracy. Vote in the people who agree with you and enforce federal law over state law.

Why is this concept so difficult?


First past the post
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:33:44 PM
#69:


Jen0125 posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
Like I said, what matters is what people in Florida want. It's not right for people who don't live there to decide right and wrong for them and dictate how they should be allowed to live.


so do you disobey all federal laws since they aren't set by your state legislature?


nobody said anything about ALL of them, but i for sure do disregard several federal laws in favor of state ones.

a shit ton of people in the state of Colorado do the same.
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Jen0125
02/23/18 12:35:41 PM
#70:


Troll_Police_ posted...
nobody said anything about ALL of them, but i for sure do disregard several federal laws in favor of state ones.


okay so do you call yourself a criminal? because you willingly break the law?

and why not ignore them all? since state laws apparently are more important than federal ones.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:38:02 PM
#71:


knivesX2004 posted...
How about you can have guns if they are all bright pink, smell terrible, make a massive BAZINGA noise when fired, and bullets cost a thousand dollars (you get one for free with purchase)?

Since it's clearly only for self defense I don't see why this is a problem.


because its also recreational you jag, and i dont see why your dumb and bad opinions should effect the cost or use of my ownership and operation of a gun
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Jen0125
02/23/18 12:40:45 PM
#72:


i'd be really interested to know what percentage of the population owns these 300 million plus guns we have in the US.

alas, we can't know because the NRA has blocked every attempt to have a digital database of gun owners to track statistics.

but guns are harmless, right? why the secrecy?
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:41:24 PM
#73:


Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
nobody said anything about ALL of them, but i for sure do disregard several federal laws in favor of state ones.


okay so do you call yourself a criminal? because you willingly break the law?

and why not ignore them all? since state laws apparently are more important than federal ones.


because why the fuck would i ignore them all?

have you ever broken a law in your life jen? if so, why didnt you break them all? do you see how stupid this line of questioning is?

and no, follow the laws of the land i live in and lend more credence to small government than big government because i am not a professional victim who needs big brother/big daddy to hold my fucking hand lol.

seriously, you libs need to learn to stop begging the question if you want any chance of not seeing that big scary cheeto youre all so terrified of in office for another 4 years.
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 12:44:21 PM
#74:


Troll_Police_ posted...
because its also recreational you jag,

That's the problem.
Also I'm not a JAG. I'm shocked you thought I was.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:44:35 PM
#75:


Jen0125 posted...
i'd be really interested to know what percentage of the population owns these 300 million plus guns we have in the US.

alas, we can't know because the NRA has blocked every attempt to have a digital database of gun owners to track statistics.

but guns are harmless, right? why the secrecy?


oh idk, probably as a protection against ultra violent liberals who might target them due to their political beliefs

really though, we should just let the fed take over and enter EVERYONE into a big database along with every purchase theyve ever made. get rid of privacy entirely. if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about right?
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:46:19 PM
#76:


knivesX2004 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
because its also recreational you jag,

That's the problem.
Also I'm not a JAG. I'm shocked you thought I was.


really? its a problem for me to take my gun to the range and fire it at a paper target? thats a problem for you? why do you have to be so invested in my personal life?
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 12:46:20 PM
#77:


Troll_Police_ posted...
really though, we should just let the fed take over and enter EVERYONE into a big database

Slippery sloping.
Just purchases that can kill people.
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 12:48:16 PM
#78:


Troll_Police_ posted...
really? its a problem for me to take my gun to the range and fire it at a paper target? thats a problem for you? why do you have to be so invested in my personal life?

It stops being your personal life when it puts other people at harm.

Also "why do you have to be so invested in my personal life" is the argument gays, women, black people, and basically every non Christian ever makes lol.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:48:50 PM
#79:


knivesX2004 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
really though, we should just let the fed take over and enter EVERYONE into a big database

Slippery sloping.
Just purchases that can kill people.


oh really? because i could probably kill someone with a chunk of the flagstone patio i put in

i could kill someone with any number of tools and kitchen utensils

anyone could kill someone with just about anything.

so yeah, i am slippery sloping because it is a fucking slippery slope you dense little goober you
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Jen0125
02/23/18 12:49:29 PM
#80:


Troll_Police_ posted...
have you ever broken a law in your life jen? if so, why didnt you break them all? do you see how stupid this line of questioning is?


i break laws and i'm willing to say i've committed a crime and could be considered a criminal. but lots of people aren't willing to say that.

Troll_Police_ posted...
because why the fuck would i ignore them all?


because muh states rights? that's what the original commenter was acting like but you're inserting yourself as if you're him when you don't have the same opinion. funny how that works

Troll_Police_ posted...
oh idk, probably as a protection against ultra violent liberals who might target them due to their political beliefs


why do you think that? they would only get targeted by law enforcement to verify why they purchased 15 rifles in a year. is that really so bad?

Troll_Police_ posted...
really though, we should just let the fed take over and enter EVERYONE into a big database along with every purchase theyve ever made. get rid of privacy entirely. if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about right?


i mean i don't purchase things that are made with the sole intent to kill people so i don't have a problem with a gun database. if you're a law abiding gun owner you won't even make a blip in a radar. plus if your gun is stolen and used in a crime it'd be easier to track. so horrible.
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Jen0125
02/23/18 12:50:07 PM
#81:


Troll_Police_ posted...

oh really? because i could probably kill someone with a chunk of the flagstone patio i put in

i could kill someone with any number of tools and kitchen utensils

anyone could kill someone with just about anything.

so yeah, i am slippery sloping because it is a fucking slippery slope you dense little goober you


none of those things were specifically designed with the sole intent to injure or kill so that argument really doesn't fly.
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 12:50:38 PM
#82:


Troll_Police_ posted...
i could kill someone with any number of tools and kitchen utensils

Not by accident and not at a range.
I'm sure there's less accidental decapitations by kitchen knife than accidental gunshots.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:50:53 PM
#83:


knivesX2004 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
really? its a problem for me to take my gun to the range and fire it at a paper target? thats a problem for you? why do you have to be so invested in my personal life?

It stops being your personal life when it puts other people at harm.

Also "why do you have to be so invested in my personal life" is the argument gays, women, black people, and basically every non Christian ever makes lol.


first, just gonna ask when i every tried to intervene in the life of a black person, woman, or homosexual who wasnt my wife?

second, when did i put other people at harm? are you judging my actions based on the actions of certain people in my group? because that is also the argument people used against gays, women, black people and baisically every non christian.

like, you do realize what a hypocrite you are on some level right?
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:52:08 PM
#84:


knivesX2004 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
i could kill someone with any number of tools and kitchen utensils

Not by accident and not at a range.
I'm sure there's less accidental decapitations by kitchen knife than accidental gunshots.


k, but thats not what you said. you said purchases that CAN kill people

you never said accidentally

you never said based on the number of deaths

who gets to decide these things? what is it about you that makes you think you get to make these decisions for others?
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:53:06 PM
#85:


Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...

oh really? because i could probably kill someone with a chunk of the flagstone patio i put in

i could kill someone with any number of tools and kitchen utensils

anyone could kill someone with just about anything.

so yeah, i am slippery sloping because it is a fucking slippery slope you dense little goober you


none of those things were specifically designed with the sole intent to injure or kill so that argument really doesn't fly.


we never said what the purpose and intent of the weapon is, and actually for a knife i could 100% make the claim that yes, that is exactly what it is specifically designed to do.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 12:55:36 PM
#86:


it is hilarious that you guys are doing the typical liberal thing and leaving out the part of the post that destroys your stupid arguments, so im gonna help you out here.

knivesX2004 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
really though, we should just let the fed take over and enter EVERYONE into a big database

Slippery sloping.
Just purchases that can kill people.


k?

now have fun with your victim complexes kids, ive got better shit to do today than try to educate a couple of stumps
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 12:58:31 PM
#87:


Troll_Police_ posted...
knivesX2004 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
i could kill someone with any number of tools and kitchen utensils

Not by accident and not at a range.
I'm sure there's less accidental decapitations by kitchen knife than accidental gunshots.


k, but thats not what you said. you said purchases that CAN kill people

you never said accidentally

you never said based on the number of deaths

who gets to decide these things? what is it about you that makes you think you get to make these decisions for others?

Fair enough I guess. Let's start simple.
Just assault rifles for now.
Who decides these things? The people via their representatives.
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Jen0125
02/23/18 12:58:34 PM
#88:


Troll_Police_ posted...
first, just gonna ask when i every tried to intervene in the life of a black person, woman, or homosexual who wasnt my wife?


is your wife a black female homosexual? lmao
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 1:01:55 PM
#89:


Troll_Police_ posted...
second, when did i put other people at harm? are you judging my actions based on the actions of certain people in my group? because that is also the argument people used against gays, women, black people and baisically every non christian.

Why not? People do it with non white people all the time. It sucks doesn't it? It's not fair right?
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Jen0125
02/23/18 1:03:16 PM
#90:


Troll_Police_ posted...

we never said what the purpose and intent of the weapon is, and actually for a knife i could 100% make the claim that yes, that is exactly what it is specifically designed to do.


knives are used for a variety of other things besides injuring and killing. and they weren't designed specifically to kill or injure.
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argonautweakend
02/23/18 1:04:41 PM
#91:


troll police is the most corrupt cop ever.

all he does it troll!

I want my money back, this show sucks!
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 1:30:15 PM
#92:


Jen0125 posted...
knives are used for a variety of other things besides injuring and killing. and they weren't designed specifically to kill or injure.


i use my guns for a variety of things besides injuring and killing too, so there goes yet another dumb argument

and yeah, no knife was every designed speicifically to kill or injure

iBoSd0K

Jen0125 posted...


is your wife a black female homosexual? lmao


so you just glossed over the word OR and think its hilarious?

iBoSd0K

do you just revert back to bad jokes when you cant argue?

knivesX2004 posted...

Fair enough I guess. Let's start simple.
Just assault rifles for now.
Who decides these things? The people via their representatives.


why assault rifles? there are more stabbing deaths in the US every year than all rifle deaths combined, assault or otherwise.

there are WAAAAY more handgun deaths too.

just say it. you want a blanket gun ban. i already put jen into this corner a long time ago, and while im sure she wont admit it, she has been backpedaling ever since

just admit what you actually want. Then we can go back to the point we were already at where you lost this argument and then tried to move the goalpost the very first time
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 1:34:34 PM
#93:


Troll_Police_ posted...
Jen0125 posted...
knives are used for a variety of other things besides injuring and killing. and they weren't designed specifically to kill or injure.


i use my guns for a variety of things besides injuring and killing too, so there goes yet another dumb argument

and yeah, no knife was every designed speicifically to kill or injure

iBoSd0K

Jen0125 posted...


is your wife a black female homosexual? lmao


so you just glossed over the word OR and think its hilarious?

iBoSd0K

do you just revert back to bad jokes when you cant argue?

knivesX2004 posted...

Fair enough I guess. Let's start simple.
Just assault rifles for now.
Who decides these things? The people via their representatives.


why assault rifles? there are more stabbing deaths in the US every year than all rifle deaths combined, assault or otherwise.

there are WAAAAY more handgun deaths too.

just say it. you want a blanket gun ban. i already put jen into this corner a long time ago, and while im sure she wont admit it, she has been backpedaling ever since

just admit what you actually want. Then we can go back to the point we were already at where you lost this argument and then tried to move the goalpost the very first time

Why assault rifles? Because 17 fucking kids were just murdered by one. Jesus Christ dude.

Way more handgun deaths you say? Ban those too then.

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Jen0125
02/23/18 1:38:38 PM
#94:


Troll_Police_ posted...

i use my guns for a variety of things besides injuring and killing too, so there goes yet another dumb argument

and yeah, no knife was every designed speicifically to kill or injure


target practice to .. what? learn how to aim to shoot and maim? is that really your argument?

Troll_Police_ posted...
so you just glossed over the word OR and think its hilarious?


yes

Troll_Police_ posted...
why assault rifles? there are more stabbing deaths in the US every year than all rifle deaths combined, assault or otherwise.

there are WAAAAY more handgun deaths too.

just say it. you want a blanket gun ban. i already put jen into this corner a long time ago, and while im sure she wont admit it, she has been backpedaling ever since

just admit what you actually want. Then we can go back to the point we were already at where you lost this argument and then tried to move the goalpost the very first time


i have said several times i would like a global blanket gun ban for pretty much everyone. now that we know guns are mostly used to kill people why do we need them? i feel the same way about any designated weapon that serves no other purpose. i don't think police, military, government, citizen anyone needs a gun at all. and i wish they'd all be removed. i feel the same way about nukes, missiles, tanks, fighter jets, warships, anything.

but that's not realistic. and you keep saying i haven't flat out said that's my preference. that is my preference. but that's not what i'm talking about because that's really extreme and would never happen. this is like the fourth time this week i've put this in writing.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:15:26 PM
#95:


Jen0125 posted...
target practice to .. what? learn how to aim to shoot and maim? is that really your argument?


how about target practice because shooting guns is fucking fun? or do you want to tell me how i am and am not allowed to have a good time, in spite of the fact that me going to a shooting range has no effect on your life? sounds pretty intolerant jen

i also use them for decoration. the Winchester over my fireplace gives my bedroom that sort of frontiersman feel that i love so much

Jen0125 posted...
now that we know guns are mostly used to kill people why do we need them?

because sometimes there are bad people that need killing? are you really that naive? oh my sweet summer child.

Jen0125 posted...
i don't think police, military, government, citizen anyone needs a gun at all. and i wish they'd all be removed. i feel the same way about nukes, missiles, tanks, fighter jets, warships, anything.


violence happens, and people/nations have a right to defend themselves. go cry into a tree about it.

also a blanket gun ban in the US is about as realistic as anything else you mentioned, but that isnt stopping you
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:17:29 PM
#96:


Yeah violence happens and you can lessen the severity of it by ridding the world weapons of mass casualty. Gee what a novel idea.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:20:09 PM
#97:


Jen0125 posted...
Yeah violence happens and you can lessen the severity of it by ridding the world weapons of mass casualty. Gee what a novel idea.


iBoSd0K

you can lessen it by taking weapons of mass casualty out of the hands of good, law abiding, people and leaving them in the hands of bad ones? or do you think the evil people in this world are just gonna say "oh well i guess if they gave their guns up we should too"?

seriously jen, the naivete is getting a bit staggering even for you
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:21:10 PM
#98:


No. I literally said I don't want anyone to have them. So how does that include "bad guys?"

I mean you can continue to insult me and knives all you want. We're not going to be on the same page as you ever.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:24:53 PM
#99:


Jen0125 posted...
No. I literally said I don't want anyone to have them. So how does that include "bad guys?"

I mean you can continue to insult me and knives all you want. We're not going to be on the same page as you ever.


iBoSd0K

and what is your proposition for taking them away from the "bad guys" then? do you think its something that can conceivably be accomplished AFTER disarming all of the "good guys"? if not then why are you favoring blanked gun bans, which would take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and leave them in the hands of criminals?

do you see how the logic of your own argument is self defeating?

also, if you find facts insulting you might have some deeper underlying issues to work on jen.

and now we all learned something.
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:26:23 PM
#100:


You can skew anything I say anyway you want. I really don't care.

You don't give any facts. You just say "but muh guns and you're an idiot" in 100 different ways.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:28:16 PM
#101:


Jen0125 posted...
You can skew anything I say anyway you want. I really don't care.


iBoSd0K

i dont need to skew it though jen, you skew it yourself by having objectively bad opinions
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:28:44 PM
#102:


In your opinion they're bad opinions.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:29:10 PM
#103:


Jen0125 posted...
You don't give any facts. You just say "but muh guns and you're an idiot" in 100 different ways.


bro, you plugging your ears and going "LALALALAL CANT HEAR YOU" does not mean nothing has been said
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:29:51 PM
#104:


Okay.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:30:15 PM
#105:


Jen0125 posted...
In your opinion they're bad opinions.


in REALITY'S opinion you have bad opinions
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darkknight109
02/23/18 2:30:31 PM
#106:


Troll_Police_ posted...
i dont see why your dumb and bad opinions should effect the cost or use of my ownership and operation of a gun

I don't see why your dumb and bad opinions should affect my personal safety, but here we are.

Troll_Police_ posted...
oh idk, probably as a protection against ultra violent liberals

lol!

Troll_Police_ posted...
like, you do realize what a hypocrite you are on some level right?

He says after complaining about being judged as part of a group instead of as an individual, then ranting for several posts about "dem dum libruls"

Troll_Police_ posted...
i use my guns for a variety of things besides injuring and killing too, so there goes yet another dumb argument

No, you don't, because every use of a gun revolves around killing - actual, threatened, or simulated.

Guns have three broad applications:
-Killing something (hunting, murder, shooting an intruder)
-Threatening to kill something (keeping a gun as self-defence, threatening off an intruder, holding up a liquor store)
-Sport/range shooting, which generally involves setting up a paper-facsimile of your target of choice and killing it.

Guns aren't used in construction the way hammers are; you can't use them to chop wood, like an axe; they don't get used in food prep like a knife.

That doesn't mean there aren't real, valid uses for guns (pest control on farms, hunting for food), but don't insult your own intelligence by pretending that guns aren't designed to kill (and efficiently so).

Troll_Police_ posted...
how about target practice because shooting guns is fucking fun? or do you want to tell me how i am and am not allowed to have a good time, in spite of the fact that me going to a shooting range has no effect on your life?

I think blowing mock buildings up with missiles is tonnes of fun; that's still not a valid excuse for legalizing missile launchers for civilian ownership.

When someone's hobby has the side effect of threatening public safety, that person needs to find a new hobby.

Troll_Police_ posted...
i also use them for decoration. the Winchester over my fireplace gives my bedroom that sort of frontiersman feel that i love so much

Would work just as well with a non-functional gun that had its barrel filled in and/or its firing mechanism removed.
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:30:58 PM
#107:


That's also your opinion. Maybe you should look up the difference between fact and opinion. It could be very beneficial for you.
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:34:36 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
I don't see why your dumb and bad opinions should affect my personal safety, but here we are.


how does me owning a gun affect your safety? oh it doesnt. here we are.

darkknight109 posted...
-Sport/range shooting, which generally involves setting up a paper-facsimile of your target of choice and killing it.


yeah, those gosh darned black circles. they really get on my nerves and ive got really pent up aggressions toward them. that makes perfect fucking sense lol.

darkknight109 posted...
When someone's hobby has the side effect of threatening public safety, that person needs to find a new hobby.


my hobby doesnt threaten public safety though. ive never taken my gun into public, or hurt a single human soul with it, and i certainly never intend for it to.

darkknight109 posted...
Would work just as well with a non-functional gun that had its barrel filled in and/or its firing mechanism removed.


sure, but why should i have to settle just because youve got your panties in a twist?
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InfiniteMick
02/23/18 2:35:02 PM
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He's running for senate, that motherfucker thinks he can beat Bill Nelson? Lol
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:35:21 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
That's also your opinion. Maybe you should look up the difference between fact and opinion. It could be very beneficial for you.


iBoSd0K

it is a FACT that you have bad opinions
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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:36:35 PM
#111:


http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
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Troll_Police_
02/23/18 2:41:44 PM
#112:


Troll_Police_ posted...
it is a FACT that you have bad opinions

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Jen0125
02/23/18 2:51:00 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

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ReggieTheReckless
02/23/18 3:02:23 PM
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As someone who hunts, and comes from a family who hunts, NO ONE needs a fucking machine gun or anything with an extended clip

I'd rather save the life of one child than worry about pissing off 100,000 losers who just want to shoot machine guns at targets for fun

BAN MACHINE GUNS
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