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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 9:49:22 AM
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No suits or shields. Just some boxers and bare fists.

Who wins?
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ToonLinkWithGun
02/19/18 9:49:53 AM
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Captain America

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Dondre_X
02/19/18 9:50:21 AM
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Black Panther
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Veggeta_EDGE
02/19/18 9:51:17 AM
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Black Panther
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boxington
02/19/18 9:56:28 AM
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I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.
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MuayThai85
02/19/18 9:57:22 AM
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With armor - BP for sure.
Barehanded while wearing nothing but a loin cloth - Captain America
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ToonLinkWithGun
02/19/18 9:57:30 AM
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boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.
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shanefu22
02/19/18 9:58:39 AM
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Marvel movies BP
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boxington
02/19/18 9:59:13 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap
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MuayThai85
02/19/18 10:00:53 AM
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boxington posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap


He will tire out. Captain America will never stop coming forward or run out of stamina. Guy can take a massive beating from guys far, far stronger than Black Panther and still keep moving forward. He would eventually overcome BP.
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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 10:01:11 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

Black Panther has a similar thing to the super soldier serum. I think it's probably closer than you're suggesting.
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ToonLinkWithGun
02/19/18 10:02:12 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
boxington posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap


He will tire out. Captain America will never stop coming forward or run out of stamina. Guy can take a massive beating from guys far, far stronger than Black Panther and still keep moving forward. He would eventually overcome BP.

And Captain America's strength level is higher than Panthers. And Captain America is ranked as one of the best H2H fighters in the Marvel Universe
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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 10:02:30 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
He will tire out.

He will eventually tire out but I think it's far more likely one will get KO'd first.
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boxington
02/19/18 10:02:31 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
boxington posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap


He will tire out. Captain America will never stop coming forward or run out of stamina. Guy can take a massive beating from guys far, far stronger than Black Panther and still keep moving forward. He would eventually overcome BP.

iirc, BP has great feats of stamina, too
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boxington
02/19/18 10:03:03 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
boxington posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap


He will tire out. Captain America will never stop coming forward or run out of stamina. Guy can take a massive beating from guys far, far stronger than Black Panther and still keep moving forward. He would eventually overcome BP.

And Captain America's strength level is higher than Panthers. And Captain America is ranked as one of the best H2H fighters in the Marvel Universe

where does it say that?

and so is Black Panther
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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 10:04:39 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
And Captain America is ranked as one of the best H2H fighters in the Marvel Universe

I think he's actually the best from a skill standpoint. Anyone better than him generally is that way because of a larger advantage like Hulk
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Delta_Force
02/19/18 10:05:07 AM
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BP. Cap gets DQ'd because he's a juicer.
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Pogo_Marimo
02/19/18 10:05:31 AM
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Captain America is essentially the absolute pinnacle of non-superpowered human ability in the Marvel Universe, and BP is not considered to have superpowers (With exceptions like Power over the Dead in some comics). BP is near-pinnacle, but Cap is basically the litmus test for humans. Cap will beat any non-Superpowered person in pure combat the majority of the time.

They are extremely closely matched, though, and BP has a better array of supporting abilities.
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LightHawKnight
02/19/18 10:10:34 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Captain America is essentially the absolute pinnacle of non-superpowered human ability in the Marvel Universe, and BP is not considered to have superpowers (With exceptions like Power over the Dead in some comics). BP is near-pinnacle, but Cap is basically the litmus test for humans. Cap will beat any non-Superpowered person in pure combat the majority of the time.

They are extremely closely matched, though, and BP has a better array of supporting abilities.


Not considered? The heart shaped herb?
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Veggeta_EDGE
02/19/18 10:15:09 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Not considered? The heart shaped herb?

How did you guys forget about this? You eat the herb and user gains enhanced speed, agility, strength, endurance, healing and senses to Super-Soldier levels. The user's senses are enhanced so they can now see in total darkness, track any scent, and hear an enemy's heartbeat.
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sktgamer_13dude
02/19/18 10:16:53 AM
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Delta_Force posted...
BP. Cap gets DQ'd because he's a juicer.

BP juices too
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boxington
02/19/18 10:17:18 AM
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idk how accurate this is, but here's a site with some stats to the right

Black Panther

http://marvel.com/universe/Black_Panther#axzz57ZEz6Bva

Captain America

http://marvel.com/universe/Captain_America_(Steve_Rogers)#axzz57ZEz6Bva
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Nazanir
02/19/18 11:14:11 AM
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boxington posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap

In the comics, he had a "connection" with some kind of mythical/mystical panther being (I think it was called Bast, the god of panthers) and that connection gave him enhanced physical traits: increased senses, speed, stamina, strength and even increased healing.

So, without equipment, it will come down to who is the better fighter, and I believe that is BP, since he has had extensive training, but CA doesn't. So BP is likely to win this fight.

With equipment I still think BP has the edge, since he still is the better fighter between the two, and even though the shield will make a head on attack hard, if not impossible, BP is more than agile enough to work around that.
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LightHawKnight
02/19/18 11:17:31 AM
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Nazanir posted...
boxington posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
boxington posted...
I think they've beaten each other in the past, so idk.

I'd probably give the edge to BP, though.

You guys. They don't have their armor or shields. Literally nothing. Captain America has the advantage here.

how?

Black Panther is like Batman, where he knows pretty much every martial arts style, and is superhuman like Cap

In the comics, he had a "connection" with some kind of mythical/mystical panther being (I think it was called Bast, the god of panthers) and that connection gave him enhanced physical traits: increased senses, speed, stamina, strength and even increased healing.

So, without equipment, it will come down to who is the better fighter, and I believe that is BP, since he has had extensive training, but CA doesn't. So BP is likely to win this fight.

With equipment I still think BP has the edge, since he still is the better fighter between the two, and even though the shield will make a head on attack hard, if not impossible, BP is more than agile enough to work around that.


Enhanced Physiology: T'Challa was originally enhanced by the Heart-Shaped Herb granted him Super Soldier powers.[21][134][135] He was given additional powers by the Goddess Bast, when he became the King of the Dead.[136] This blessing seems to have restored him to the same power levels which he possessed as the chosen Black Panther. His natural strength, speed, agility, durability, healing, stamina, reflexes, and senses have been augmented to a nearly superhuman degree by the sacred heart-shaped herb found in the hidden plateau near Wakanda.[20]

Also Cap does have extensive training, military training, but still extensive training.
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Fony
02/19/18 11:19:45 AM
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BP is just as superhuman without the suit and that includes being able to run circles around cap. He even beat man-ape depowered lol. Their fighting skills are basically even and BP is both faster and stronger with better reflexes and senses...naked. It's like super sad right now, this movies having everyone's ass in a sling. Comic fans would readily admit BP was superior to both Cap and Batman without much fuss a year ago or before. Now certain people act like they're debating for their lives or something.

Black Panther has always been Cap's superior both physically AND intellectually and he has always been superhuman, his suit adds NOTHING besides not necessitating he dodge bullet(which he can).
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Oh_Boy_
02/19/18 11:25:19 AM
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Panther wins 10/10. No incarnation of Cap could beat him.
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Knowledge_King
02/19/18 11:34:21 AM
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Black Panther 10/10.

He's literally faster, stronger, more durable, and more skilled than Cap. And Cap's nowhere near #1 in Marvel in skill. Might not even reach the top 10.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/19/18 11:39:24 AM
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Captain America > Captain Wakanda
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/19/18 11:41:10 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
No incarnation of Cap could beat him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5o1FxzJOM8

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Youngster_Joey_
02/19/18 11:45:14 AM
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Oh look, everyone is suddenly an expert on Black Panther.
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EndOfDiscOne
02/19/18 11:46:46 AM
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Cap has more will power. He wins.
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Pogo_Marimo
02/19/18 7:58:38 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Captain America is essentially the absolute pinnacle of non-superpowered human ability in the Marvel Universe, and BP is not considered to have superpowers (With exceptions like Power over the Dead in some comics). BP is near-pinnacle, but Cap is basically the litmus test for humans. Cap will beat any non-Superpowered person in pure combat the majority of the time.

They are extremely closely matched, though, and BP has a better array of supporting abilities.


Not considered? The heart shaped herb?

BP has parts about him that are considered super-human--His sense of smell and sight, his power over the dead (More recently), ect., but none of his physical stats exceed the pinnacle of humans. The two of them are at the exact same tier physically, and in almost every way.

If we're factoring in anything else BESIDES their pure, unassisted, unarmed, unprepared skill then BP would win the majority of the time though. BP's equipment, intelligence, resources, and supporting skills far surpass Cap, so nearly any other scenario would favor BP.
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Knowledge_King
02/19/18 9:50:28 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
but none of his physical stats exceed the pinnacle of humans. The two of them are at the exact same tier physically, and in almost every way.

That's...not true. He's so fast Spider-man's wowed by him and he's strong enough to hurt Hulk, Mindless Ones, and break things Iron Man can't. He's explicitly superhuman at the moment. And stated so.
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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 9:54:13 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
he's strong enough to hurt Hulk

Can he hurt hulk without vibranium claws, though?
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