Board 8 > Pokemon Random Battle League, Season 4 CHAMPIONSHIPS [PRBL] pt. 2

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pyresword
03/08/18 6:06:52 PM
#96:


Damn if only this happened a round later.

Oh well let me know when you can play Koala. I'm busy the next couple of days but can probably find time on Saturday. If not then some time next week is probably best.
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KommunistKoala
03/08/18 6:07:19 PM
#97:


I'll be around pretty much the entire day/night saturday
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Emeraldegg
03/08/18 10:39:13 PM
#98:


Shonen_Bat posted...
Today, saturday, sunday @Emeraldegg

What time Saturday?
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Shonen_Bat
03/08/18 11:14:07 PM
#99:


5-7 PM EST should be fine.
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Emeraldegg
03/09/18 11:05:29 AM
#100:


Shonen_Bat posted...
5-7 PM EST should be fine.

7 work for you then?
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Shonen_Bat
03/09/18 4:43:09 PM
#101:


Yeah that'll work.
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pyresword
03/10/18 2:26:52 PM
#102:


@KommunistKoala can you do around 5:00 EST today? I'm also available now if you'd prefer that.
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KommunistKoala
03/10/18 2:37:25 PM
#103:


now would work better probably
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KommunistKoala
03/10/18 2:44:48 PM
#104:


@pyresword
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pyresword
03/10/18 2:44:49 PM
#105:


Ok give me like 3 minutes and I'll be in Help
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pyresword
03/10/18 3:18:54 PM
#106:


Pyre vs Koala

Game 1: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-716056138
Game 2: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-716061230
Game 3: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-716067473

Pyre wins 2-1. Two pretty solid games and then a really anticlimactic game 3 :/

But yeah ggs.

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KommunistKoala
03/10/18 3:27:34 PM
#107:


If I had remembered my assault vest on Samurott I could have potentially made it a better match, but my team was basically a bunch of slowpokes and garbage so I dont think I had much chance either way
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pyresword
03/10/18 3:38:25 PM
#108:


My team wasn't great either, but I do think it had a pretty good matchup against yours either way, especially starting up 6-5 on turn 1.

Sending in Samurott earlier probably helps, but I'm not even sure it beats Shaymin 1-on-1 even with Assault Vest. Shaymin is surprisingly tanky, which has messed me up on multiple occasions. (After checking damage calc yeah, Megahorn only does like 50-60%) Also one of my remaining pokemon was Glaceon, which reduced the threat of Sceptile (which would have been alive in that instance) and Gligar significantly unless the Sceptile was a set that had Focus Blast. Don't remember what my 6th Pokemon was unfortunately.

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Emeraldegg
03/10/18 6:58:16 PM
#109:


@Shonen_Bat I'll be waiting in help whenever you're ready
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Emeraldegg
03/10/18 7:46:05 PM
#110:


http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-716173115
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-716177028
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-716180203

Emerald 1-2 Shonen

If he didn't have that damn hitmontop the last game it would have been so much different. Those first 2 games were hilarious though in their same-ness

I guess the one thing I did wrong was send togekiss out to die against exeggutor, but I thought kiss had high spdef so I thought maybe it could scare the exeggutor out. If kiss were alive it could have completely walled breloom. I guess I should have just been more patient and let torterra stall eggs out

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Shonen_Bat
03/10/18 8:05:59 PM
#111:


I felt bad with that shell smash sweep but it ended up balancing out lol.

Hitmontop and breloom really bailed me out in that third one. I didn't have a damn thing for togekiss so I was lucky to kill it at all.


Aw geez Pyre made the finals, I'm doomed.
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Emeraldegg
03/10/18 8:09:03 PM
#112:


Shonen_Bat posted...
I felt bad with that shell smash sweep but it ended up balancing out lol.

Hitmontop and breloom really bailed me out in that third one. I didn't have a damn thing for togekiss so I was lucky to kill it at all.

Arbok was a hard counter for togekiss
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Shonen_Bat
03/10/18 8:16:01 PM
#113:


Yeah I guess, after I saw the togekiss I screwed up by trying to sweep with it early though.
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Steiner
03/10/18 9:34:31 PM
#114:


FINALS:
pyresword vs. Shonen_Bat
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pyresword
03/11/18 9:34:33 PM
#115:


@Shonen_Bat

I'm busy for the next couple of days. I should be available starting on Wednesday, so whenever after that works for you should be fine.

Also group 1 finals hype. Or whatever group we were I don't actually remember.
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Shonen_Bat
03/11/18 9:42:56 PM
#116:


Wednesday should be fine then, can do around 4 pm EST or later.
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pyresword
03/11/18 9:45:28 PM
#117:


I get home from work pretty late generally so it would have to be around 9 EST or something like that. If that doesn't work with your schedule we can always do next weekend instead.
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Shonen_Bat
03/11/18 9:53:39 PM
#118:


9 or later works just fine for me.
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pyresword
03/13/18 3:42:20 PM
#119:


Bump.

By the way Steiner are the finals 3 out of 5 again?
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Steiner
03/13/18 4:42:53 PM
#120:


oh

sure why not go crazy
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Zigzagoon
03/13/18 5:24:55 PM
#121:


"Oi Steiner! I wanted to msg ya an idea for PRBL playoffs! If it's going to be top 4 from each div, I was thinking maybe a page playoff system might work nicely.

Baiscally it would work like this

1 vs 2
3 vs 4

Winner of 1 vs 2 goes straight to Quater Finals
Loser of 1 vs 2 plays against the Winner of 3vs4 and Winner of THAT game goes to the other quarter final spot

It could be something like...

1A vs 2B
3C vs 4D

2B beats 1A and goes to Quarter Final
3C beats 4D and then vs 1A. 1A wins and goes to other quarter final.

Rinse and repeat for all 4 divs.

A good benefit of Page Playoff system is that it rewards the top 2 players in each division and gives them a small blanket in the first round.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_playoff_system
Page playoff system
The Page playoff system is a playoff format used primarily in softball and curling at the championship level. Teams are seeded using a round-robin tournament and the top four play a mix of a single-elimination and double-elimination tournament to...
I know you probably don't really care that much at all, but I was chatting with Shad and Emerald about it and they seemed to think it was a good idea"
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Zigzagoon
03/13/18 5:30:20 PM
#122:


btw he literally didn't respond at all
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Steiner
03/13/18 5:38:45 PM
#123:


it was 5 months ago
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pyresword
03/14/18 4:04:21 PM
#124:


@Shonen_Bat

Sorry but it looks like tonight isn't actually going to work for me. I will have to do either tomorrow or the weekend.
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Shonen_Bat
03/14/18 4:15:27 PM
#125:


No problem. Still 9 est?
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pyresword
03/14/18 7:24:17 PM
#126:


Yeah that should be fine with me tomorrow.
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pyresword
03/15/18 8:20:45 PM
#127:


I'm leaving work now and it's looking like I'll be a tad bit later than 9. Should be available by 9:15-9:30 though.
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pyresword
03/15/18 9:09:49 PM
#128:


@Shonen_Bat if you're around I'm able to play now.
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pyresword
03/15/18 9:21:25 PM
#129:


https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen7randombattle-718658415

Championship match.
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pyresword
03/15/18 10:15:33 PM
#130:


Game 1: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-718658415
Game 2: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-718663429
Game 3: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-718669134
Game 4: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-718672098
Game 5: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-718672098

Pyre wins 3-1. Ggs. Was a pretty fun/close set other than game 1 where I just had a stupidly broken team.

Finally I actually win one of these things.

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Shonen_Bat
03/15/18 10:23:31 PM
#131:


Congratulations.

Seeing ultra Necrozma and Kyurem-B in the first match was a bit of a downer, but it was a fun set overall. And honestly you just played way better than me anyways.

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pyresword
03/15/18 10:42:10 PM
#132:


Ultra Necrozma is so busted. It's got like 270 attack and 230 speed with reasonable bulk (plus Prism Armor before it switches forms if needed which can be useful), and it also has Swords Dance just in case 270 Attack+strong STAB's+Neuroforce+a Z-move wasn't enough offensive power.
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pyresword
03/15/18 10:43:24 PM
#133:


Like you didn't even see the half of it in that game because I was being conservative with it (honestly probably a mistake in this case), but it's easily capable of deciding games on its own against a pretty wide range of opposing teams.
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Zigzagoon
03/15/18 10:54:40 PM
#134:


One day I won't get RNG'd in the playoffs and actually get to play in the finals...

I'm joking btw, that'll never happen
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Zigzagoon
03/15/18 10:55:45 PM
#135:


Congrats though Pyre, after I was "eliminated" I was hoping you'd take it as you are definitely the strongest player here. Shame I couldn't face you in the finals as that's what I really wanted.
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Emeraldegg
03/15/18 11:02:21 PM
#136:


Zigzagoon posted...
Congrats though Pyre, after I was "eliminated" I was hoping you'd take it as you are definitely the strongest player here. Shame I couldn't face you in the finals as that's what I really wanted.

Congrats Pyre! With how much work and studying you do on different sets and stuff, you sure earned finally winning one of things things.

Shonen I hope you come back next year since, as the latest one to beat me in the semifinals, you are now my eternal rival until someone else does.
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pyresword
03/15/18 11:14:46 PM
#137:


Thanks guys.

I wouldn't say that I really study at all. I've just played such a high number of matches that I've seen every set enough to know what it does and roughly how strong it is. Maybe that's what you meant, but I wanted to clarify that I don't do like theorycrafting or anything like that.

One other thing though is I do think my competitive instincts are quite good. There's a lot to be said for knowing when you should be committing to something, when you should be holding back, when you should just sac something, etc, and I do think that's something I have a noticeably better feel for than...well pretty much everyone besides other top ladder players if I'm being honest.


Zigzagoon posted...
Congrats though Pyre, after I was "eliminated" I was hoping you'd take it as you are definitely the strongest player here. Shame I couldn't face you in the finals as that's what I really wanted.

I've probably said this before but I always thought you were a stronger player than I was.

I wasn't able to watch much this season, and I also think I've improved since seasons 2/3, so I don't know if I'd still say that if I had seen your games from this season, but yeah

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Zigzagoon
03/15/18 11:39:23 PM
#138:


pyresword posted...
Thanks guys.

I wouldn't say that I really study at all. I've just played such a high number of matches that I've seen every set enough to know what it does and roughly how strong it is. Maybe that's what you meant, but I wanted to clarify that I don't do like theorycrafting or anything like that.

One other thing though is I do think my competitive instincts are quite good. There's a lot to be said for knowing when you should be committing to something, when you should be holding back, when you should just sac something, etc, and I do think that's something I have a noticeably better feel for than...well pretty much everyone besides other top ladder players if I'm being honest.


Zigzagoon posted...
Congrats though Pyre, after I was "eliminated" I was hoping you'd take it as you are definitely the strongest player here. Shame I couldn't face you in the finals as that's what I really wanted.

I've probably said this before but I always thought you were a stronger player than I was.

I wasn't able to watch much this season, and I also think I've improved since seasons 2/3, so I don't know if I'd still say that if I had seen your games from this season, but yeah


My biggest weakness this season was just knowledge of sets. But considering I won every round except for the first playoff round where set knowledge would have done me jack squat, I guess that was never really exploited.

And thanks, that is definitely nice to hear, perhaps next season (if it's still run) we'll be able to have a battle of the ages! <3

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Steiner
03/17/18 3:04:59 PM
#139:


Congrats pyre, you deserved to finally win one!

This will be back. Later.
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XIII_rocks
03/17/18 4:10:58 PM
#140:


Well done pyre. Definitely the best player we have in this format.
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pyresword
03/18/18 9:25:50 PM
#141:


Oh neat. Showdown finally added a Random Battles chat room. Been waiting for this for so long.
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