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Every week or so, people are shot en masse and the gun control debate strikes up again. Often gun proponents bring up some idea that gun control is pointless because "after all, we have murder laws and murder still happens."

I am always baffled by this statement. Do people honestly believe that:

A) Murder would be just as common if there were no legal and/or societal consequences for it?

B) That murder laws should be repealed because they are useless?

Can someone explain to me why this is a good argument?
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Bloop.
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ShinyMasamuneZ posted...

Every week or so, people are shot en masse and the gun control debate strikes up again. Often gun proponents bring up some idea that gun control is pointless because "after all, we have murder laws and murder still happens."

I am always baffled by this statement. Do people honestly believe that:

A) Murder would be just as common if there were no legal and/or societal consequences for it?

B) That murder laws should be repealed because they are useless?

Can someone explain to me why this is a good argument?

I think the basic idea is that people willing to do extreme, terrible things will do so regardless of what the law allows. They will find a way.

NeonOctopus posted...

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Seconded.
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Patchwork posted...

I think the basic idea is that people willing to do extreme, terrible things will do so regardless of what the law allows. They will find a way.

I get that, but the argument isn't that gun control will absolutely prevent every single incident, but create measures that will decrease the probability that they occur.
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I work in safety. I know that I cannot prevent every single accident from happening.

Yet that doesn't lead me to stop trying to prevent accidents from happening. Using whatever controls I have at my disposal, be they engineering controls, good work practices, or protective equipment.

I use every tool I have available.

I'd be embarrassed to be in a situation where I could act and chose not to.
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Highly, highly agreed. Ignoring a potential solution because it is not 100% effective is not a good way to go about things.
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ShinyMasamuneZ posted...

Can someone explain to me why this is a good argument?

It isn't.

/topic
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NeonOctopus posted...

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ShinyMasamuneZ posted...

Every week or so, people are shot en masse and the gun control debate strikes up again. Often gun proponents bring up some idea that gun control is pointless because "after all, we have murder laws and murder still happens."

I am always baffled by this statement. Do people honestly believe that:

A) Murder would be just as common if there were no legal and/or societal consequences for it?

B) That murder laws should be repealed because they are useless?

Can someone explain to me why this is a good argument?

1: if you think it wouldn't be the most common thing on earth with no consequences, you're actually an idiot i'm sorry. you have people murdering each other over loose ideals, over small amounts of money (right now someone is probably getting stabbed or shot over $20 by some crack/methhead) and no one would feel safe because "fuck it people need to die" is the attitude that people would adapt to

2: laws are as useful as people want to enforce them to be. it's the reason why some people speed and never get a ticket, only a slap on the wrist, while others go 5 over and get fined.
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