Current Events > The more I think about it, the more I realize taxation is theft

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LRodC 02/13/18 7:21:15 AM #1:	Pretty much <cite>LRodC posted [p:895992932] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 02/13/18 7:23:25 AM #2:	It's not, but okay. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - NeonOctopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:895992980] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>It's not, but okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 02/13/18 7:23:41 AM #3:	It's funny because everyone who says this is always wrong about why it's theft --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:895992986] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>It's funny because everyone who says this is always wrong about why it's theft</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaemMkIV7 02/13/18 7:29:02 AM #4:	if it's said to a 3rd world wreck then this is mostly true --- "I'll send in detectives! I'll send in police! I'll send in EVERYTHING IN MY POWER!!!" <cite>DaemMkIV7 posted [p:895993119] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>if it's said to a 3rd world wreck then this is mostly true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 02/13/18 7:31:25 AM #5:	Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:895993174] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/13/18 7:32:57 AM #6:	You could argue that it is extortion, but calling it theft would be inaccurate. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:895993220] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>You could argue that it is extortion, but calling it theft would be inaccurate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 02/13/18 7:33:18 AM #7:	It's a prepayment for services available to you, such you use and benefit from both directly and indirectly. <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:895993233] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>It's a prepayment for services available to you, such you use and benefit from both directly and indirectly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrDrMan 02/13/18 7:33:50 AM #8:	Some people say 401k is a huge Ponzi scheme to let the rich invest your money. Conspiracies! --- Pimpin aint easy Chiefs/Royals/Lakers 2015/2016 champs baby <cite>MrDrMan posted [p:895993253] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>Some people say 401k is a huge Ponzi scheme to let the rich invest your money. Conspiracies!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 02/13/18 7:34:27 AM #9:	yes, it is theft for you to sign contracts for which you agree that part of the money mentioned in the contract is stipulated to go towards a government that has allowed you to reside in it using to give you stuff. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:895993268] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>yes, it is theft for you to sign contracts for which you agree that part of the money mentioned in the contract is stipulated to go towards a government that has allowed you to reside in it using to give you stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LRodC 02/13/18 7:42:59 AM #10:	Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. <cite>LRodC posted [p:895993504] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 02/13/18 7:44:20 AM #11:	MrDrMan posted... Some people say 401k is a huge Ponzi scheme to let the rich invest your money. Conspiracies! When you live in the plutocratic states of America, everything literally is a Ponzi scheme to benefit the rich. --- Him being greedy is a good thing. That means he'll want to spend less and help us get out of this debt. Gamefreak36 <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:895993532] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrDrMan posted...</cite> <quote>Some people say 401k is a huge Ponzi scheme to let the rich invest your money. Conspiracies!</quote> When you live in the plutocratic states of America, everything literally is a Ponzi scheme to benefit the rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/13/18 7:44:54 AM #12:	LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:895993553] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProfDE 02/13/18 8:40:43 AM #14:	What isn't fair is how much of my check the government takes. I lost 35% of my last check to taxes and I only work part time. There is something seriously wrong with this. Plus the fact the government overspends on stupid stuff that doesn't matter causing the country to go into huge amounts of debt. --- SMM: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/KINGARCEUS Pokemon Go: http://www.teamdimensional.net/pogo/ <cite>ProfDE posted [p:895995205] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>What isn't fair is how much of my check the government takes. I lost 35% of my last check to taxes and I only work part time. There is something seriously wrong with this. Plus the fact the government overspends on stupid stuff that doesn't matter causing the country to go into huge amounts of debt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 02/13/18 8:52:21 AM #15:	uwnim posted... You could argue that it is extortion Yeah it's literally protection money. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:895995591] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>You could argue that it is extortion</quote> Yeah it's literally protection money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 02/13/18 8:52:46 AM #16:	Its not theft. You get government services in exchange. If no one paid taxes there would be no fire or police departments. Roads would have tons of potholes. Unlicensed drivers would crash into you all the time. <cite>L0Z posted [p:895995604] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>Its not theft. You get government services in exchange. If no one paid taxes there would be no fire or police departments. Roads would have tons of potholes. Unlicensed drivers would crash into you all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 02/13/18 9:57:35 AM #17:	LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. There sure is a reason You would get cutthroat corporations refusing to come put out the fire or deal with criminals because you're behind on paying their overpriced services. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:895998020] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> There sure is a reason You would get cutthroat corporations refusing to come put out the fire or deal with criminals because you're behind on paying their overpriced services.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CookieMarvin 02/13/18 9:58:41 AM #18:	uwnim posted... LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay. lol --- http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png <cite>CookieMarvin posted [p:895998063] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 02/13/18 10:07:46 AM #19:	It's as equal to theft as landlord rent is. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:895998464] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>It's as equal to theft as landlord rent is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 02/13/18 10:09:01 AM #20:	#RentisTheft <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:895998534] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>#RentisTheft</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 02/13/18 10:23:25 AM #21:	Unknown5uspect posted... #RentisTheft Correct. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:895999165] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unknown5uspect posted...</cite> <quote>#RentisTheft</quote> Correct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MB2012 02/13/18 10:26:55 AM #23:	LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. Because the free market has always been right in the past! --- Yeet i.redd.it/1ewnrrutys001.png <cite>MB2012 posted [p:895999324] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> Because the free market has always been right in the past!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 02/13/18 10:28:01 AM #24:	Technically yes, if you are unwilling to give the money to the government. That being said almost all people are ok with paying taxes as they like things like roads, police, etc. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:895999371] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>Technically yes, if you are unwilling to give the money to the government. That being said almost all people are ok with paying taxes as they like things like roads, police, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 02/13/18 10:32:26 AM #25:	Asherlee10 posted... LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. This is a TERRIBLE idea. For realsies. If I'm unhappy with my government I can fire them. There's no such possibility with a corporate alliance governing everything --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:895999599] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> This is a TERRIBLE idea.</quote> For realsies. If I'm unhappy with my government I can fire them. There's no such possibility with a corporate alliance governing everything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 02/13/18 10:34:02 AM #26:	Doom_Art posted... Asherlee10 posted... LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. This is a TERRIBLE idea. For realsies. If I'm unhappy with my government I can fire them. There's no such possibility with a corporate alliance governing everything How do you do that? --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:895999671] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> This is a TERRIBLE idea.</quote> For realsies. If I'm unhappy with my government I can fire them. There's no such possibility with a corporate alliance governing everything</quote> How do you do that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 02/13/18 10:42:29 AM #28:	The thing stealing your money is what creates your money and makes your money worth anything in the first place. They dont do that for free. --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 \| NNID : CapnMuffin \| XBGT : Capn Muffin <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:896000107] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>The thing stealing your money is what creates your money and makes your money worth anything in the first place. They dont do that for free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/13/18 11:32:55 AM #29:	CookieMarvin posted... uwnim posted... LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay. lol @CookieMarvin Something wrong with what I said? --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:896002628] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>CookieMarvin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay.</quote> lol</quote> @CookieMarvin Something wrong with what I said?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CookieMarvin 02/13/18 11:40:00 AM #30:	uwnim posted... CookieMarvin posted... uwnim posted... LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay. lol @CookieMarvin Something wrong with what I said? I actually meant to quote rod. I mean, the thought of it being extortion is pretty silly too, but I guess theres at least something to that --- http://i.imgur.com/4Llom.png <cite>CookieMarvin posted [p:896003020] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CookieMarvin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay.</quote> lol</quote> @CookieMarvin Something wrong with what I said?</quote> I actually meant to quote rod. I mean, the thought of it being extortion is pretty silly too, but I guess theres at least something to that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 02/13/18 11:45:01 AM #31:	Remember why Americans fought against the British in the first place. Taxation without representation. That's pretty much what the government does now, I don't see where my money is going or who it's going to. It's kinda shit, but oh well, the money from my poor self goes to some rich guy in some third world country. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:896003274] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote>Remember why Americans fought against the British in the first place. Taxation without representation. That's pretty much what the government does now, I don't see where my money is going or who it's going to. It's kinda shit, but oh well, the money from my poor self goes to some rich guy in some third world country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/13/18 11:45:35 AM #32:	CookieMarvin posted... uwnim posted... CookieMarvin posted... uwnim posted... LRodC posted... Ilishe posted... Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list. No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff. Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay. lol CookieMarvin Something wrong with what I said? I actually meant to quote rod. I mean, the thought of it being extortion is pretty silly too, but I guess theres at least something to that Ah, ok. That makes sense. Dont particularly agree with it being extortion myself, but I could see and make the argument that it is. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:896003301] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>CookieMarvin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CookieMarvin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LRodC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it isn't theft. Taxation is a nationwide contribution to the government's operating budget from every person willing and capable of legally earning money. Tax money pays for public services like police, firemen, health care, justice, garbage disposal, education, road maintenance and so on. It's a long list.</quote> No reason why they cant be private businesses instead. Government is unneeded and free market can take care of that stuff.</quote> Whether or not it is needed is irrelevant. Taxation isnt theft as you do receive legitimate services in return. It can be considered extortion since theres threat of force if you refuse to pay.</quote> lol</quote> CookieMarvin Something wrong with what I said?</quote> I actually meant to quote rod. I mean, the thought of it being extortion is pretty silly too, but I guess theres at least something to that</quote> Ah, ok. That makes sense. Dont particularly agree with it being extortion myself, but I could see and make the argument that it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/13/18 11:47:37 AM #33:	KillerKhan420 posted... Remember why Americans fought against the British in the first place. Taxation without representation. That's pretty much what the government does now, I don't see where my money is going or who it's going to. It's kinda shit, but oh well, the money from my poor self goes to some rich guy in some third world country. Except that you are represented. That's one of the reasons why we vote for the people in congress. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896003428] in The more I... [t:76314214]...</cite> <quote><cite>KillerKhan420 posted...</cite> <quote>Remember why Americans fought against the British in the first place. Taxation without representation. That's pretty much what the government does now, I don't see where my money is going or who it's going to. It's kinda shit, but oh well, the money from my poor self goes to some rich guy in some third world country.</quote> Except that you are represented. That's one of the reasons why we vote for the people in congress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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