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ledbowman 02/13/18 3:54:21 PM #51: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean You basically said white lives don't matter. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrueNeutral 02/13/18 3:54:22 PM #52: |
Depends on which BLM member you ask
Pretty much a coin flip tbh --- The only correct alignment ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 02/13/18 3:56:55 PM #53: |
ledbowman posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean No I didn't. What part of my post did you (poorly) derive that from? --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 02/13/18 3:57:46 PM #54: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...They also do the same thing with mass shootings Wrong. Lower per capita. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/06/newsweek/are-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/ --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 02/13/18 3:59:31 PM #55: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean "All Lives Matter = All Lives Matter (but black lives less so)" means that white people are all racists and are hence worthless. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Musourenka 02/13/18 4:00:10 PM #56: |
Black Lives Also Matter
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Smogal 02/13/18 4:01:58 PM #57: |
ledbowman posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean How in the world did you get that out of his post? The post literally had nothing to do with white people. Holy shit. --- Well, well, well... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 02/13/18 4:02:22 PM #58: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...DifferentialEquation posted...They also do the same thing with mass shootings Was about to post this. Even politifact admits it. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Musourenka 02/13/18 4:04:07 PM #59: |
ledbowman posted...
How? --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 02/13/18 4:08:56 PM #60: |
ledbowman posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean That's a massive leap in logic. I didn't say all white people are racist. Just the ones that say "All Lives Matter" as a response to "Black Lives Matter." Most white people don't say that. At least not the ones with an adult level comprehension of such simple concepts. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 02/13/18 4:12:11 PM #61: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...ledbowman posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean Backpedal backpedal --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 02/13/18 4:14:35 PM #62: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean These are all SWEEPING generalizations... some people who say BLM believe black lives matter MORE, some people believe black lives matter TOO some people who say all lives matter believe all lives matter equally, some people believe black lives less so blue lives matter, I haven't paid attention to, so I cannot comment. But I am willing to bet it's just another sweeping generalization you decided to come up with on the spot. Way to generalize 3 different groups of people while at the same time making one group look "good" while the rest look "bad." --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 02/13/18 4:15:23 PM #63: |
I just say White Lives Matter
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Deadpool_18 02/13/18 4:18:05 PM #64: |
Its become an extremely convoluted and irrelevant movement thanks to a bunch of prejudiced assholes.
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:19:51 PM #65: |
It means cops are to blame.
Its a stupid fucking name that did nothing but further divide the country and damage property --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 02/13/18 4:21:45 PM #66: |
If we hate everyone, perhaps "No Lives Matter" is a better description.
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:24:05 PM #67: |
The group routinely celebrated cops being killed, promoted killing of cops, & praised cop killers. Fuck that hateful group long ways
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metralo 02/13/18 4:25:26 PM #68: |
Funbazooka posted...
I just say White Lives Matter we know --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 02/13/18 4:26:39 PM #69: |
KingCrabCake posted...
It means cops are to blame. BLM types think police never ever abuse their authority against white people, even in areas of the country that are majority white. Nope, never ever happens. They also forget about cops who are minorities themselves. It's like their brains fly out the window and they assume every cop is a white guy who goes to KKK meetings on the weekends. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 02/13/18 4:27:34 PM #70: |
metralo posted...
Funbazooka posted...I just say White Lives Matter I'm such an irksome scamp! --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 02/13/18 4:28:07 PM #71: |
You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else.
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:28:23 PM #72: |
Funbazooka posted...
KingCrabCake posted...It means cops are to blame. It really is just a dumb hateful group filled with anger and ignorance. Noticed this immediately. It doesnt help theres no leadership --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:29:09 PM #73: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. You act like some shitty hateful group like BLM is comparable to breast cancer awareness --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 02/13/18 4:29:54 PM #74: |
I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I'm certain most would say it's black lives matter (also). It's the same issue with people who criticize BET because of it's name. They believe it's exclusive to black people and black artists, but they've featured artists, stars, and entertainers of different colors and backgrounds.
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Dustin1280 02/13/18 4:30:05 PM #75: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. The problem is social media, it makes all the crazies in BLM standout more then the normal sane people. So people associate all the crazy blm people with BLM as a whole and that fucks the whole meaning... --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smogal 02/13/18 4:30:10 PM #76: |
ledbowman posted...
Backpedal backpedal You have to be trolling. You failed at reading comprehension, now it seems like you're trying to cover your own ass. Dustin1280 posted... DarkChozoGhost posted...The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean It's no more a generalization than what you're saying. Whether some people have acted like clowns about it or not, BLM stands for being against unjust police brutality against black people. If you're against it because of a few clowns, and need to invalidate it with ALM, then "Black lives matter less" is certainly how it feels. And let's not be disingenuous, ALM started waaay before BLM ever started doing any stupid shit. People saw that people were saying BLM, and thought it was witty to say ALM because they were insecure. They essentially interpreted "White lives don't matter" from "Black lives matter." If my dog got injured and is in the hospital, and I say "I hope my dog gets better" why would you tell me "you mean, you hope all dogs get better?" You basically just undermined my statement with a one that's completely irrelevant. --- Well, well, well... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:31:07 PM #77: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. Kinda like how the media makes cops seem terrible --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 02/13/18 4:31:34 PM #78: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. Decentralized movement, blaming the whole group for the actions of a few who got the most media attention is asinine. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:32:09 PM #79: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Makeveli_lives posted...You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. Exactly why its crazy to hate cops ;) --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 02/13/18 4:32:25 PM #80: |
The original cause of BLM had merit, but the actions of a few have made them look bad to the point where regular people see them as a hate group full of thugs and rioters which makes it hard to sympathize with them.
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Makeveli_lives 02/13/18 4:33:36 PM #81: |
KStateKing17 posted...
I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I'm certain most would say it's black lives matter (also). It's the same issue with people who criticize BET because of it's name. They believe it's exclusive to black people and black artists, but they've featured artists, stars, and entertainers of different colors and backgrounds. As a 28 year old black man I've never watched that channel outside of the occasional 106 and park --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smogal 02/13/18 4:38:43 PM #82: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...KingCrabCake posted...Makeveli_lives posted...You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. I agree. Has nothing to do with anything though. lol --- Well, well, well... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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medzz 02/13/18 4:40:09 PM #83: |
With all the black one black murders do any lives matter?
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KStateKing17 02/13/18 4:40:52 PM #84: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
KStateKing17 posted...I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I'm certain most would say it's black lives matter (also). It's the same issue with people who criticize BET because of it's name. They believe it's exclusive to black people and black artists, but they've featured artists, stars, and entertainers of different colors and backgrounds. It's mostly tv shows and movies reruns now I believe, 106 and park may be done. I haven't had cable for a little more than a year now so I haven't bothered to check. Someone was trying to make an argument on how their hip-hop awards were racist a while back though, and didn't realize that the host and multiple nominees weren't even black. --- The 17th King of the State of K ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dameon_reaper 02/13/18 4:41:23 PM #85: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Dustin1280 posted...Makeveli_lives posted...You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. I mean...when a shooting goes down from the cop, the cameras are off...and even then, cops take up for each other right or wrong. In a way, there are a lot of bad cops out there. Don't try to make them some kind of hero of justice just because they have authority. In fact, we're human and giving authority to a human can turn....its like making Donald Trump the president of the United States. Good thing that never happened. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 02/13/18 4:45:41 PM #86: |
Smogal posted...
ledbowman posted...Backpedal backpedal I will agree when BLM first was a thing, the message was good and I supported it as a whole... The problem is BLM's message has been poisoned by all the crazies on social media. The same thing happened to feminists, it's a good goal to strive for but the man hating women have poisoned that message too. Since the media sensationalizes everything all we hear about is the bad and stupid shit BLM has done and that makes BLM look like a hate group even when it's core message (that seems lost these days) is something that is good. Crazy and stupid people are FAR louder than normal sane individuals. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gafemage 02/13/18 4:47:48 PM #87: |
metralo posted...
Funbazooka posted...I just say White Lives Matter --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 02/13/18 4:49:09 PM #88: |
Heheh
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 4:51:17 PM #89: |
dameon_reaper posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Dustin1280 posted...Makeveli_lives posted...You the type to go up to say a breast cancer fund raising/ awareness event and scream about how there's other sick people too? Because that's the mind set you need to have to see black lives matter and twist it into fuck everybody else. And blm sticks up for criminals even when they're wrong and destory cities and stores own by minorities...the group is trash And no there are not a lot of bad cops out there. Theres only a few --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 02/13/18 4:54:23 PM #90: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...DifferentialEquation posted...They also do the same thing with mass shootings @DarkChozoGhost would you like to respond to this? Or would you rather keep perpetuating hateful stereotypes about white people? --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 02/13/18 5:16:41 PM #91: |
Dustin1280 posted...
some people who say BLM believe black lives matter MORE, some people believe black lives matter TOO In the same way that some people prefer to drink warm water from a tap over cold water, sure. DifferentialEquation posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted...DarkChozoGhost posted...DifferentialEquation posted...They also do the same thing with mass shootings From the article: Some of the differences in the datasets are the result of having no universally accepted definition of mass shooting. The number of mass shootings a group tallies can vary dramatically based on how the term is defined. Another tally, with a longer timeline and a different definition of mass shooting, found non-Hispanic white men make up 63 percent of these attacks. Under both definitions and datasets, white men have committed more mass shootings than any other ethnicity group. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 02/13/18 5:19:54 PM #92: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Dustin1280 posted...some people who say BLM believe black lives matter MORE, some people believe black lives matter TOO You should probably post the WHOLE two paragraphs rather then cherry picking the couple sentences you like Another tally, with a longer timeline and a different definition of mass shooting, found non-Hispanic white men make up 63 percent of these attacks. Under both definitions and datasets, white men have committed more mass shootings than any other ethnicity group. Newsweek's claim is literally accurate. But it's worth noting the imprecision of this data, and the percentage of mass shootings by white men is lower than their share of the male population, according to Mother Jones. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad_Chad 02/13/18 5:20:57 PM #93: |
It means a black wrong doesn't count if a debatable white wrong happens after it. And according to that one chick who helps run it, that black people deserve free stuff because they can't earn it. The whole thing is spun bullshit and no better than the alt-right saying "I'm not a white supremacist, I just want a country for white people only."
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Tenmyouji 02/13/18 5:22:56 PM #94: |
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KingCrabCake 02/13/18 5:24:31 PM #95: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Dustin1280 posted...some people who say BLM believe black lives matter MORE, some people believe black lives matter TOO According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides... So there's that --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 02/13/18 5:24:38 PM #96: |
Some of the differences in the datasets are the result of having no universally accepted definition of mass shooting. The number of mass shootings a group tallies can vary dramatically based on how the term is defined.
This is the important part. It depends on the definition used for mass shootings. The article had some data sets that show white men committing more, and some showing they committed less. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 02/13/18 5:29:04 PM #97: |
Though my argument isn't who kills more or who has a higher propensity for becoming a mass shooter.
My argument is that BLM has been poisoned, much like feminism by the loud, hateful, ignorant, people that the media sensationalizes so the GOOD that supposed to come from such groups is overshadowed by the bad. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 02/13/18 5:32:15 PM #98: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Though my argument isn't who kills more or who has a higher propensity for becoming a mass shooter. This doesn't make "all lives matter" an appropriate response, and doesn't make the people who say it any less ignorant. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/13/18 5:34:02 PM #99: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Kineth posted...scorpion41 posted...Kineth posted...scorpion41 posted...More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people? Right? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 02/13/18 5:36:12 PM #100: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
Why does the left switch back and forth between per capita and raw numbers whenever it's convenient? Literally asking this question as Kineth is pointing out someone on the right doing EXACTLY that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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