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S1nharvest
02/10/18 9:40:47 AM
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It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white, but will be obtuse and think that Blacks finally getting a place in entertainment is a negative thing. It must have been easier for America when they didn't have to address inequality in Hollywood, which is still overwhelmingly white.
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 9:43:03 AM
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It's about people starting a big stink while knowing they can fuck up anything they want to because people will back down and just take it.

Then again, who was stupid enough to think actual equality was coming? There's gotta be that "Now you're gonna pay!" period first. Human nature and whatnot.
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VTBM
02/10/18 9:49:00 AM
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It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 9:51:22 AM
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VTBM posted...
It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".

Imagine how it would feel to bust your ass for years to become qualified for the job you want and when you're all excited to show off your talents....you get given the job for that reason.
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boxington
02/10/18 9:51:40 AM
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VTBM posted...
It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".

what makes you think that's the reason?
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TheVipaGTS
02/10/18 9:51:55 AM
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VTBM posted...
It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".

Its stupid and racist when people bitch about a minority getting a part and claiming its fake diversity...is it really that absurd to think that they earned the role and are being given more opportunities to earn the role? Its funny how often a minority lead is met with ugh diversity for diversitys sake! Here...how fuckin insulting to the person who earned that role.
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 9:53:11 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
VTBM posted...
It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".

Its stupid and racist when people bitch about a minority getting a part and claiming its fake diversity...is it really that absurd to think that they earned the role and are being given more opportunities to earn the role?

Only if the person is given the role without public outcry for it.
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PikachuMaxwell
02/10/18 9:54:22 AM
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They wanted to include minority characters in order for more of the real-life audience to relate to the characters.
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weapon_d00d816
02/10/18 9:54:31 AM
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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to people to have racial representation in movies/TV.

Why don't you campaign for more minorities to seek out acting careers instead of whining about how many white actors there are in a 70% white country?
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Rika_Furude
02/10/18 9:55:23 AM
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Its more annoying when people bitch about a white person getting a role
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 9:56:45 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
I will never understand why it's such a big deal to people to have racial representation in movies/TV.

Why don't you campaign for more minorities to seek out acting careers instead of whining about how many white actors there are in a 70% white country?

Same with video games. Work hard, get in the industry and make the changes.

Oh wait, throwing a fit and pressuring someone to change their own work is a lot less effort.
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boxington
02/10/18 9:57:20 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
I will never understand why it's such a big deal to people to have racial representation in movies/TV.

Why don't you campaign for more minorities to seek out acting careers instead of whining about how many white actors there are in a 70% white country?

it's not an issue of there being a lack of minority actors, but a lack of opportunity
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pikachupwnage
02/10/18 9:58:47 AM
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I dont care unless they changed an existing character purely for PR in a heavy handed way or are absurdly blatant and bias in their social commentary to the point of basically slapping you in the face as opposed to making a actually enjoyable work that more subtly and cleverly comments.

Like if you make the Villian a Elephant man named Trumpet the Nazi republican russian cheeto and have Spider-Man realize he needs to step aside so his black female friend who is obviously a better person than him can defeat him. That would be lame and stupid on so many levels and failing to advance the cause you are pushing at the same time.

If they replace Tony Stark with a minority man/women? Cool. We know RDJ is not gonna do Iron man much longer and just trying to replace him with a knockoff of himself would be lame. Trying to catch lighting in a bottle. A fresh take on the character could be good. Ideally the character would have some relationship with Tony before the passing of the torch. There are a few characters I could imagine taking on the role.
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TheMikh
02/10/18 10:01:28 AM
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The truth is that whites and blacks are both slightly over-represented in entertainment at the expense of every other demographic.
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A_Good_Boy
02/10/18 10:02:35 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
I will never understand why it's such a big deal to people to have racial representation in movies/TV.

Why don't you campaign for more minorities to seek out acting careers instead of whining about how many white actors there are in a 70% white country?

Same with video games. Work hard, get in the industry and make the changes.

Oh wait, throwing a fit and pressuring someone to change their own work is a lot less effort.

You'll cry when devs include minorities in entertainment products either way. Why does the mechanism that diversity or greater representation even matter when the result of you bitching will be the same?
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 10:05:04 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
TheGrindery posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
I will never understand why it's such a big deal to people to have racial representation in movies/TV.

Why don't you campaign for more minorities to seek out acting careers instead of whining about how many white actors there are in a 70% white country?

Same with video games. Work hard, get in the industry and make the changes.

Oh wait, throwing a fit and pressuring someone to change their own work is a lot less effort.

You'll cry when devs include minorities in entertainment products either way. Why does the mechanism that diversity or greater representation even matter when the result of you bitching will be the same?

Except I won't. I want this. Get white males out of every position in media and let's see how it goes.

Super PC RPG needs to happen. No white males in it whatsoever. I'd play it.
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A_Good_Boy
02/10/18 10:07:47 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
TheGrindery posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
I will never understand why it's such a big deal to people to have racial representation in movies/TV.

Why don't you campaign for more minorities to seek out acting careers instead of whining about how many white actors there are in a 70% white country?

Same with video games. Work hard, get in the industry and make the changes.

Oh wait, throwing a fit and pressuring someone to change their own work is a lot less effort.

You'll cry when devs include minorities in entertainment products either way. Why does the mechanism that diversity or greater representation even matter when the result of you bitching will be the same?

Except I won't. I want this. Get white males out of every position in media and let's see how it goes.

Super PC RPG needs to happen. No white males in it whatsoever. I'd play it.

Even your sarcasm is accented with tears and whining.
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 10:09:54 AM
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Wanna know what brings about tears and whining for me? My evergrowing backlog. Something's gotta give so it can stop and I can potentially whittle away at it.
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A_Good_Boy
02/10/18 10:10:46 AM
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Just sit down and start playing.
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DevsBro
02/10/18 10:12:40 AM
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S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white

When was that? Night of the Living Dead released in 1968 and had a black guy as essentially the main character and either way the only competent one.
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The Admiral
02/10/18 10:16:06 AM
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S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white, but will be obtuse and think that Blacks finally getting a place in entertainment is a negative thing. It must have been easier for America when they didn't have to address inequality in Hollywood, which is still overwhelmingly white.


No one has a problem with black inclusiveness -- you don't see any complaints at all about shows like Blackish or Empire. The problem is simply taking white characters and making them black, which is both lazy and irritating to people who have connections to those original characters.
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 10:17:16 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Just sit down and start playing.

I do but it continues to grow.

It's like removing G.U.I.L.T. in Trauma Center.
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Deadpool_18
02/10/18 10:17:48 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
VTBM posted...
It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".

Imagine how it would feel to bust your ass for years to become qualified for the job you want and when you're all excited to show off your talents....you get given the job for that reason.


Cant hurt that badly, tbh. Theyre given a chance to prove their talent.
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 10:18:49 AM
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DevsBro posted...
S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white

When was that? Night of the Living Dead released in 1968 and had a black guy as essentially the main character and either way was the only competent one.


There's a bit of racism that I find amusing. The old "White people can't handle life or death situations very well" trope.
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Deadpool_18
02/10/18 10:20:25 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
DevsBro posted...
S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white

When was that? Night of the Living Dead released in 1968 and had a black guy as essentially the main character and either way was the only competent one.


There's a bit of racism that I find amusing. The old "White people can't handle life or death situations very well" trope.


I saw it less as them being white and more about being small town dumbasses.
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DevsBro
02/10/18 10:27:14 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
DevsBro posted...
S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white

When was that? Night of the Living Dead released in 1968 and had a black guy as essentially the main character and either way was the only competent one.


There's a bit of racism that I find amusing. The old "White people can't handle life or death situations very well" trope.


I saw it less as them being white and more about being small town dumbasses.

Which... is also offensive, but that's a discussion for another time.
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TheGrindery
02/10/18 10:27:44 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
DevsBro posted...
S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white

When was that? Night of the Living Dead released in 1968 and had a black guy as essentially the main character and either way was the only competent one.


There's a bit of racism that I find amusing. The old "White people can't handle life or death situations very well" trope.


I saw it less as them being white and more about being small town dumbasses.

I'm fine with any people being portrayed as dumb or smart or anything else because a movie is just a movie.

Ever notice how many of the people who complain about Blazing Saddles never even realize that Bart is the only one in the movie who isn't a fucking moron?
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SSJ4Broly
02/10/18 11:14:56 AM
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Lupe Fiasco's 'All Black Everything' IS a pretty good song tho.
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Nomadic View
02/10/18 11:54:42 AM
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I dont think many people have any issues with minority characters. The thing that gripes people is when characters are arbitrarily race changed just to check a diversity box.
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S1nharvest
02/10/18 12:31:24 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
I dont think many people have any issues with minority characters. The thing that gripes people is when characters are arbitrarily race changed just to check a diversity box.


Or, maybe the creator wanted their own version of April who happens to be black.
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cjsdowg
02/10/18 12:37:25 PM
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It is always funny , the people who say diversity doesn't matter are the first people to yell and bitch when people try to make things more diverse. If it didn't matter the people who are bitching would not be bitching.
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Teddytalks
02/10/18 12:38:49 PM
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I think the biggest problem people have is when any character is changed drastically. This includes race. I certainly hated the idea of a black James bond. It is just so against my established image of him that it wouldn't work.
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SpaceBear_
02/10/18 1:11:20 PM
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Teddytalks posted...
I think the biggest problem people have is when any character is changed drastically. This includes race. I certainly hated the idea of a black James bond. It is just so against my established image of him that it wouldn't work.


It's also against the established image of the creator, whose opinion is the only one that should .matter.
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Bagamak
02/10/18 1:21:47 PM
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if this is about Black Panther, the problem is not the movie itself. it's what people in the real world say about it. my problems with the movie's treatment

1. calling it diverse when 99% of the cast is all one race

2. portraying it as a liberal movie just because the hero is black and not realizing that in the comics, Tchalla and Wakanda are exrememly xenophobic, conservative and distrusting of the world

3. acting like it;s gonna be the greatest movie in history when by all accounts it looks like an average entry in the MCU.

with all that said, I am going to be in the audience and I will let you know how it is. should be a fun movie
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Asperity
02/10/18 3:11:24 PM
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SpaceBear_ posted...
Teddytalks posted...
I think the biggest problem people have is when any character is changed drastically. This includes race. I certainly hated the idea of a black James bond. It is just so against my established image of him that it wouldn't work.


It's also against the established image of the creator, whose opinion is the only one that should .matter.

I agree.
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darkjedilink
02/10/18 3:18:03 PM
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S1nharvest posted...
It continues amaze me how people had no issues with every source of entertainment being white, but will be obtuse and think that Blacks finally getting a place in entertainment is a negative thing. It must have been easier for America when they didn't have to address inequality in Hollywood, which is still overwhelmingly white.

Uhhh, black people have been overrepresented in American media for DECADES, yet we're told it's not enough.
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Freddie_Mercury
02/10/18 3:24:25 PM
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>white actor gets cast in a minority role: "the best actor should get the part regardless of race"
>minority actor gets cast in a white role: "REEEEEEEEE SJWs"
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Bagamak
02/10/18 3:25:46 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
>white actor gets cast in a minority role: "the best actor should get the part regardless of race"

it's the other way around. it's always people cheering on the minority actor that I have only ever seen say that line. people say it everytime a white character gets turned black or asian or whatever.

and those people get upset when the opposite happens which covers your other quote. so yea, you are 100% mixed up
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FLUFFYGERM
02/10/18 3:25:56 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
VTBM posted...
It's stupid and racist when they are given parts for the sake of "diversity".

Imagine how it would feel to bust your ass for years to become qualified for the job you want and when you're all excited to show off your talents....you get given the job for that reason.


Or your achievements are all attributed to white privilege
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ModLogic
02/10/18 3:28:52 PM
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