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Kaname_Madoka
02/09/18 5:59:25 PM
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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/18 6:03:43 PM
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Its unamerican to not be able to fire someone
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ZMythos
02/09/18 6:04:21 PM
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Because profits matter more than safety or fair wages
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Paper_Okami
02/09/18 6:05:17 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Because profits matter more than safety or fair wages

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DifferentialEquation
02/09/18 6:06:34 PM
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Unions have become more corrupt and evil than the mafia ever was.
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silentwing26x
02/09/18 6:06:36 PM
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Because unions become extremely powerful and corrupt. Example: Chicago teachers union
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Very_Unreliable
02/09/18 6:06:43 PM
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Because the purpose of the union is sufficiently met by laws we now have on the books; and now they are just gangsters who make it difficult to fire subpar employees. Just like any organization or department whose mission is largely archaic, they will create problems to justify their existence and funding...
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Paper_Okami
02/09/18 7:29:54 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Unions have become more corrupt and evil than the mafia ever was.

silentwing26x posted...
Because unions become extremely powerful and corrupt. Example: Chicago teachers union

Very_Unreliable posted...
Because the purpose of the union is sufficiently met by laws we now have on the books; and now they are just gangsters who make it difficult to fire subpar employees. Just like any organization or department whose mission is largely archaic, they will create problems to justify their existence and funding...


lmao the propaganda is working really well on you people.
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Funkydog
02/09/18 7:32:08 PM
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I thought this said unicorns and now I'm sad :(
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Anteaterking
02/09/18 7:33:07 PM
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Because people like all of the benefits that come from the union, but not any of the negative parts.
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Sativa_Rose
02/09/18 7:34:28 PM
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Teachers unions are definitely part of the problem with education. Our politicians have no spine when it comes to dealing with them.
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Doe
02/09/18 7:45:29 PM
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I don't know too much about them since I'm p young, my dad didn't like his because he thought they weren't very good at what they did. In addition they dumped him once his factory was shut down, dunno if that's standard operating procedure but either way they failed to stop the quick shutdown or find him another job

They were invented for a reason and are a good idea on paper and we shouldn't not have them but having to pay a shadowy group of coworkers or whatever that may or may not actually help you when you need it seems to run contrary to American values. May as well make some kind of federal agency that just beats the shit out of corporations if they try to do dumb shit
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K181
02/09/18 7:49:20 PM
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Because too many people have a "fuck you, I got mine" mentality while ignoring the huge amount of groundwork unions have done and their imperative role in advancing and protecting worker safety and pay.
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Bagamak
02/09/18 7:50:58 PM
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I was forced to pay dues for some random union when I took a job at a grocery store even though I only had the job for 3 months and the union never did shit for me.
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Bagamak
02/09/18 7:51:44 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Teachers unions are definitely part of the problem with education. Our politicians have no spine when it comes to dealing with them.

also cop unions. the 2 worst unions in the country are the Teacher Unions and the Cop Unions
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Perascamin
02/09/18 7:53:08 PM
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In the 1980s, a construction company in my home area wasn't union and they got a lot of work. One day, while the boss was at work and his wife was home alone, a group of union workers in a truck did a drive by shooting not realizing she was at home and among causing property damage, almost killed his wife.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/09/18 7:56:33 PM
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i see

sounds like they are worse in america

Perascamin posted...
In the 1980s, a construction company in my home area wasn't union and they got a lot of work. One day, while the boss was at work and his wife was home alone, a group of union workers in a truck did a drive by shooting not realizing she was at home and among causing property damage, almost killed his wife.

wtf
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DifferentialEquation
02/09/18 7:58:44 PM
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Perascamin posted...
In the 1980s, a construction company in my home area wasn't union and they got a lot of work. One day, while the boss was at work and his wife was home alone, a group of union workers in a truck did a drive by shooting not realizing she was at home and among causing property damage, almost killed his wife.


The sad thing is that this basically par for the course in terms of how unions operate.
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Solar_Crimson
02/09/18 7:59:40 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
ZMythos posted...
Because profits matter more than safety or fair wages

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gunplagirl
02/09/18 8:14:51 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Teachers unions are definitely part of the problem with education. Our politicians have no spine when it comes to dealing with them.

Nearly all of the rest of the world actually pays teachers well, while also expecting good results from them.

We do neither except in affluent (read: white) school districts where we do the latter.

Or at least for k-12. Meanwhile in university I had even more posturing, crappy professors than I could believe just in the first year. And half of them are set for life since they're tenured. Only thing that can get in the way is them literally dying.
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scorpion41
02/09/18 8:26:01 PM
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Teachers unions are necessary in states that dont pay well like Louisiana. The districts expect us to turn water into wine and back again, then get mad at us if we fall short because students get expelled, are truant, or just dont give a fuck. Ive known teachers, who bust their ass at their jobs, fired because they had one bad ass class that bombed their tests on purpose. Without unions, classrooms would be filled with subs and first year teachers or TFAs. Chicago was an isolated situation.
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fan357
02/09/18 8:35:51 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Perascamin posted...
In the 1980s, a construction company in my home area wasn't union and they got a lot of work. One day, while the boss was at work and his wife was home alone, a group of union workers in a truck did a drive by shooting not realizing she was at home and among causing property damage, almost killed his wife.


The sad thing is that this basically par for the course in terms of how unions operate.


In modern days? No. Not at all.
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Y2JosHBK_yum
02/09/18 8:36:55 PM
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Unions used to be important but in 2018 all they do is promote inefficiency and protect bad workers which keeps good workers from getting jobs
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josifrees
02/09/18 8:40:46 PM
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Unions are great in concept but they are usually ran by extremely corrupt individuals and tend to also be extremely inefficient
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theAteam
02/09/18 8:42:12 PM
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They remind people of socialism
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medzz
02/09/18 8:55:42 PM
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Americans do not hate unions.
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medzz
02/09/18 8:57:07 PM
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Only socialist would go against unions.
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sellerdore
02/09/18 8:57:23 PM
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There needs to be a clear distinction between private sector unions and public sector unions -- this quote explains the gist of it
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15445
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gunplagirl
02/09/18 9:03:58 PM
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medzz posted...
Only socialist would go against unions.

lol

You're confusing capitalists with socialists
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