Board 8 > Spirit Airlines forces girl to flush her emotional support hamster in a toilet

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Oh I'd love to see the pro-cruelty people defend this one. Bring it on, carnivores.

Before I go further, you people probably think that because I'm vegan that I oppose such things as companion animals and emotional support animals. Not true. I am of the belief that cross-species relationships can be beneficial for humans and animals, provided that the animal is treated with kindness and respect.

This is not what this hamster got.

This girl went on a flight on Spirit Airlines with her emotional support hamster which is as much of a service animal as a seeing eye dog, while causing way less potential damage than a peacock. Spirit didn't see it that way though and ordered her to do the unthinkable: Get rid of her hamster using an airport toilet or not be able to board her flight. So she did what any treasonable person would do and not make other arrangements for her hamster, not reach out to people above the employee (that is probably only making $12/hour, let's be honest), not make any other arrangements at all. No, she went to the bathroom, dropped her "emotional support" in the toilet, and flushed it away like a piece of crap because she just wanted to go on her cheap flight.

Does anyone care? Not Spirit Airlines. And she claims to care, but if she did, she wouldn't be flushing her emotional support animal down the toilet. I can't imagine what the poor creature had to endure as it traveled through and died in the sewers.

I personally think we should build a big toilet and flush her and the entire staff of Spirit Airlines down it. Because this is just wrong and a perfect example of how people see animals. Look, if you want to get something cute and furry without wanting to care about its life or feelings, get a fucking plushie. Not that people that abuse plushies wouldn't go on beyond that and abuse real animals, but still.

Now let's hear it, meat eaters. Defend this person.

Source: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/belen-aldecosea-emotional-support-hamster-flushed-toilet_us_5a7c7c6ce4b0c6726e107c3a
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Before I go further, you probably think that because I eat meat that I support such things as flushing hamsters down toilets and throwing puppies off cliffs. Not true. I am of the belief that unless your intent is beneficial for humans (Ie food), the animals should be treated with kindness and respect.
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Underleveled posted...

Before I go further, you probably think that because I eat meat that I support such things as flushing hamsters down toilets and throwing puppies off cliffs. Not true. I am of the belief that unless your intent is beneficial for humans (Ie food), the animals should be treated with kindness and respect.

This type of comment is why I feel that it's perfectly acceptable for animals to eat people.
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I mean you could just say you're into vore too
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I mean you could just say you're into vore too

Well, I am.
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don't eat your baby

babies are not food

unless they are baby chickens or cows
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I know that's really horrible and bad but man what a baller way to go for the hamster.
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bryans7 posted...

I know that's really horrible and bad but man what a baller way to go for the hamster.

I was feeling pretty horrible about the whole situation but then I lost my shit at this for some reason
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FFDragon posted...

don't eat your baby

babies are not food

unless they are baby chickens or cows

And why would I eat Fox? That makes no sense.

bryans7 posted...

I know that's really horrible and bad but man what a baller way to go for the hamster.

Oh yeah, being flushed down a public toilet that thousands of people shit in. So baller.
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LameJokeAlt posted...

And why would I eat Fox? That makes no sense.

LameJokeAlt posted...

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I mean you could just say you're into vore too

Well, I am.

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We should flush LameJokeAlt down a toilet and be done with it.
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FFDragon posted...

LameJokeAlt posted...

And why would I eat Fox? That makes no sense.

LameJokeAlt posted...

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I mean you could just say you're into vore too

Well, I am.

yeah you claim to be all about animal rights and shit but you dont even consider that the fox wants to be vored
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ZA1qU5xsI
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FFDragon posted...

LameJokeAlt posted...

And why would I eat Fox? That makes no sense.

LameJokeAlt posted...

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I mean you could just say you're into vore too

Well, I am.

That doesn't mean I practice it in real life.

NFUN posted...

yeah you claim to be all about animal rights and shit but you dont even consider that the fox wants to be vored

Fox is the name of my future son. Further, actual animals do not want to be vored generally speaking. However, I am fine with vore in fiction and roleplay and often enjoy it.
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You're gonna vore your future son?
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I'm impressed by the commitment of you to this character and of the Board for being generous enough to provide ammunition to keep it relevant.
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how many y/o was this hamster
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It's too bad this joke account is undermining that it's actually pretty horrible to do that to a living thing.
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Punnyz posted...

You're gonna vore your future son?

Of course not! I'm a vegan.

f0olmor0n posted...

how many y/o was this hamster

If she's 21 and she got the hamster in her college freshman year at 18, I assume he was about 3.

pjbasis posted...

It's too bad this joke account is undermining that it's actually pretty horrible to do that to a living thing.

I am not a joke account and I am attacking this cold-hearted "person" and the airline.
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LameJokeAlt posted...

I am not a joke account

something's not adding up here
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Actually, she tried making other arrangements. She tried to rent a car but couldn't because she was too young, and her friends were too far to get them to take the hamster in.
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Spirit didn't force her to do shit. She found out she can't fly with the hamster, Spirit rebooked her to a nearly 10 hour flight later giving her ample time to figure out what to do with the hamster, and she flushed it down the toilet like an insane person. She is insane.
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pjbasis posted...

It's too bad this joke account is undermining that it's actually pretty horrible to do that to a living thing.

Yeah
I wanted to post here but this ia such a bait I am not going to take it
Bye
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OliviaTremor posted...

Spirit didn't force her to do s***. She found out she can't fly with the hamster, Spirit rebooked her to a nearly 10 hour flight later giving her ample time to figure out what to do with the hamster, and she flushed it down the toilet like an insane person. She is insane.

Yeah, this whole story is stupid. She could just not fly if they wouldn't let her bring a rodent onto the plane
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humans need the nutrients from meat for a balanced, healthy diet. My cousin tried to go vegan and started losing her hair. You need to take like all these vitamins or find some obscure alternatives to get it to work. We're omnivorous. Why on earth should we be ashamed of this when no other species on this planet is. We eat living plants. We eat living animals. This is life.

Further, by going vegan, you are literally making no impact on the production of animal meat on a global scale, or even a national or local scale.

That is all.
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KingButz posted...

OliviaTremor posted...

Spirit didn't force her to do s***. She found out she can't fly with the hamster, Spirit rebooked her to a nearly 10 hour flight later giving her ample time to figure out what to do with the hamster, and she flushed it down the toilet like an insane person. She is insane.

Yeah, this whole story is stupid. She could just not fly if they wouldn't let her bring a rodent onto the plane

Well, it's not quite as clear cut as that

She was flying BACK from somewhere on a deadline. The first airline allowed the hamster onboard, and Spirit told her over the phone (apparently twice) that, yes, she could bring the hamster onboard their flight, too. So she flew out, did whatever, got ready to fly back... And they went "Nope." So there is definitely some blame on their end.

That said, a normal reaction is not "I'll flush it," so she's still a psychopath
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Yup. It sucks that Spirit initially told her she could fly but flushing a hamster down the toilet is such an insane thing to do. Even if some employee did say 'you should flush it down the toilet', it is ridiculous she actually would.
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We have to remember this woman had a service pet for a reason. It's possible she wasn't emotionally or mentally able to make a rational decision when confronted with this unexpected turn of events.
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Nanis23 posted...

pjbasis posted...

It's too bad this joke account is undermining that it's actually pretty horrible to do that to a living thing.

Yeah
I wanted to post here but this ia such a bait I am not going to take it
Bye

lol
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guffguy89 posted...

We have to remember this woman had a service pet for a reason. It's possible she wasn't emotionally or mentally able to make a rational decision when confronted with this unexpected turn of events.

Not to she didnt have one for a reason, but plenty of people do have them for no other reason than they want to being their pet with them and its not hard to get a doctors note
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I think it should also be noted that hamsters live on average only 1 to 3 years. So, she has probably been through several support hamsters and maybe this one was already old anyways.
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lol vegan
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Hey guys, let's believe every story 100% that any looney who wants to make the news says, because big companies are evil.
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TomNook posted...

Hey guys, let's believe every story 100% that any looney who wants to make the news says, because big companies are evil.

Of course Tom Nook, a big business owner, would say this.
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guffguy89 posted...

Why on earth should we be ashamed of this when no other species on this planet is. We eat living plants. We eat living animals. This is life.

The argument above takes which of the following for granted?

C) That what is natural also suffices to be ethical
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Yes, the ethical argument for why it's okay to kill living plants and eat them verses killing living animals and eating them I'm sure is quite intriguing and in no way hypocritical.
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I can think of one.

Plants are far more dissimilar to humans than other animals are, evolutionary speaking. A plant doesn't think or feel in ways we can relate. Insects are a step above, vertebrates above that, then amniotes, mammals, primates, humans, you own kin, etc.

With a "sliding scale" like this you can draw a line wherever you don't feel comfortable killing the thing for food anymore.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Of course Tom Nook, a big business owner, would say this.

I heard his painting business uses horse semen to save on money
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pjbasis posted...

A plant doesn't think or feel in ways we can relate.

Not that we know about
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That's true.

I also make the assumption that other humans are actual conscience observers like me too.
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Dancedreamer posted...

Actually, she tried making other arrangements. She tried to rent a car but couldn't because she was too young, and her friends were too far to get them to take the hamster in.

Still not an excuse to flush a living creature down the toilet.

Nanis23 posted...

Yeah
I wanted to post here but this ia such a bait I am not going to take it
Bye

lol

guffguy89 posted...

humans need the nutrients from meat for a balanced, healthy diet. My cousin tried to go vegan and started losing her hair. You need to take like all these vitamins or find some obscure alternatives to get it to work. We're omnivorous. Why on earth should we be ashamed of this when no other species on this planet is. We eat living plants. We eat living animals. This is life.

Further, by going vegan, you are literally making no impact on the production of animal meat on a global scale, or even a national or local scale.

That is all.

Unlike other animals, we can make the choice. We're not even real omnivores. Real omnivores can eat and digest meat just fine, we need to cook it though. We don't have fangs. We have longer intestines meant to digest plants more efficiently. We adapted to meat, but we're not built for it. Further, we also have empathy and compassion. That's not to say animals lack it, but we struggle less to survive, so we're able to make a greater effort to be compassionate to others, whether it be to other humans or animals.

OliviaTremor posted...

Yup. It sucks that Spirit initially told her she could fly but flushing a hamster down the toilet is such an insane thing to do. Even if some employee did say 'you should flush it down the toilet', it is ridiculous she actually would.

It's the perfect example of how people treat pets as disposable things. Ever wonder why there are so many surrendered dogs in shelters? The dog isn't as cute, fashionable, or fun as it grew up.

guffguy89 posted...

We have to remember this woman had a service pet for a reason. It's possible she wasn't emotionally or mentally able to make a rational decision when confronted with this unexpected turn of events.

Then maybe she should have a service plushie and flush that down the toilet when she's had enough of it. I wouldn't care if she flushed a hamster plush away.

guffguy89 posted...

I think it should also be noted that hamsters live on average only 1 to 3 years. So, she has probably been through several support hamsters and maybe this one was already old anyways.

No excuse. Get a plushie.
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TomNook posted...

Hey guys, let's believe every story 100% that any looney who wants to make the news says, because big companies are evil.

She's not disputing that she flushed a hamster down a toilet though.

pjbasis posted...

I can think of one.

Plants are far more dissimilar to humans than other animals are, evolutionary speaking. A plant doesn't think or feel in ways we can relate. Insects are a step above, vertebrates above that, then amniotes, mammals, primates, humans, you own kin, etc.

With a "sliding scale" like this you can draw a line wherever you don't feel comfortable killing the thing for food anymore.

And that line should be at plants. If you're really against killing plants you can even be a fruitarian. I call myself a moderate vegan, so I don't do that far.
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Okay, what do you got against plushies you racist son of a bitch?
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Apparently she got another real hamster now. That really pisses me off. Why would anyone allow her to do that? Aside from a long stay in prison, she needs a plushie if all she wants is to be able to pet something and then dispose of it once she's bored.

Turducken posted...

Okay, what do you got against plushies you racist son of a bitch?

I have nothing against plushies, but even you with your carnivorous monstrosity of a name could agree that flushing a plushie down a toilet is less cruel than flushing a living hamster down a toilet. Not that it would even get to that point because nobody cares about banning plushies seeing as they're nothing more than fabric and stuffing. They are perfect for the types of people that see animals as things so that they don't abuse real animals.
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