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MysteryMan923
02/08/18 12:22:43 PM
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Who would win the fight?


For purposes of the fight, assume Goku has infinite strength, infinite wisdom, infinite stamina, infinite speed, and infinite infitiness. He is not afraid to fight dirty. He controls the infinity gauntlet with all the gemstones and has managed to make it work 100% functionally in his universe. He has the dragon on standby for wishes and the dragon will only answer to him. The dragon has exceeded its limits and is now capable of killing others. Assume every known villian/hero/anyone with powers is helping Goku and that he is not concerned with their safety. Assume Goku is indestructible and ominpotent. Assume Goku has all the powers all the people on his side have, but exponentially stronger. Assume Goku has complete mastery over all these skills. Assume Goku can rewind time even if he dies/loses as a sort of reset until he wins.

Furthermore, assume Superman has JL levels of strength. Assume Superman is completely unaware of Goku or his powers or his friends. Assume Superman has been hit with an irreversible beam that makes him very...not smart. Assume no one will help Superman. Assume Superman cannot get any powerups or help whatsoever. Assume Superman fights/flies as clunkily as he does in Superman 64.

Who wins?
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FreshOverlord
02/08/18 12:25:04 PM
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Is this satire?
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Chicken
02/08/18 12:25:47 PM
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Didnt read; picked Goku.
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Veggeta_EDGE
02/08/18 12:27:05 PM
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Chicken posted...
Didnt read; picked Goku.

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Darklit_Minuet
02/08/18 12:27:45 PM
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Chicken posted...
Didnt read; picked Goku.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 12:28:13 PM
#6:


Madoka solos
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K181
02/08/18 12:28:33 PM
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Goku in a straight up fight probably doesn't even need to go Super Saiyan, and if DC fanboys bring up nonsense then Goku just instant transmits Superman to the other side of the universe and abandons him there.
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Darklit_Minuet
02/08/18 12:29:10 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Madoka solos


How?

Madoka can literally rewrite the universe at will
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/08/18 12:30:31 PM
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Saitama
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nevershine
02/08/18 12:31:17 PM
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Went with superman
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FreshOverlord
02/08/18 12:31:20 PM
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K181 posted...
Goku in a straight up fight probably doesn't even need to go Super Saiyan, and if DC fanboys bring up nonsense then Goku just instant transmits Superman to the other side of the universe and abandons him there.


You call on DC fanboys while going full fanboy yourself.
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Darklit_Minuet
02/08/18 12:32:24 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Madoka solos


How?

Madoka can literally rewrite the universe at will


But in this scenario Goku has Madoka's powers.

So they both solo each other. Omnipotence allows both of them to solo
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 12:33:14 PM
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Goku has a soul

Superman also has a soul

Madoka doesn't

therefore Madoka teaches herself to use Mafuba/Evil Containment Wave and solos
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Darklit_Minuet
02/08/18 12:34:46 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Madoka solos


How?

Madoka can literally rewrite the universe at will


But in this scenario Goku has Madoka's powers.

So they both solo each other. Omnipotence allows both of them to solo


But in the OP it was stated Goku's powers would be exponentially stronger than those that he absorbed.

Omnipotence allows you to solo those exponentially stronger than you. If also allows them to solo you if they're omnipotent. They both win.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 12:35:20 PM
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no, Madoka wins because she is omnipotent and soulless and hence can use Mafuba but is also immune to it
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K181
02/08/18 12:39:02 PM
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FreshOverlord posted...
K181 posted...
Goku in a straight up fight probably doesn't even need to go Super Saiyan, and if DC fanboys bring up nonsense then Goku just instant transmits Superman to the other side of the universe and abandons him there.


You call on DC fanboys while going full fanboy yourself.


DBZ characters are shown being easily capable of be planet busters and still be considered weak in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you really can end it there. The scale of power difference is massive. Weak DBZ and especially DBS characters could solo most established universes in various action media. Meanwhile, in DC-verse, you just get stuff about supposedly infinite reserves of power to the point that they can claim that he could take on literally any fictional entity when in the actual comics he has issues with mere super-intelligent humans. Call me a weeb, but it's not even close.
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AlisLandale
02/08/18 12:41:30 PM
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Madoka's "omnipotence" only really extends to being the patron deity of Magical Girls. Her biggest feat was the result of a single wish that was the result of specific conditions.

Its like saying Sayaka can heal other people because she wished Kyuskiko would have his hand fixed. >_>
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 12:47:06 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no, Madoka wins because she is omnipotent and soulless and hence can use Mafuba but is also immune to it


But Goku can reset until he wins. And he has infinite wisdom.

same with her
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Tadamoto38
02/08/18 1:00:10 PM
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Dude, goku doesn't even need to be that overly powered to beat superman. Current DBS Goku should be enough.

Goku's powers, techniques, abilities:

Transformations (ss1, ss2, ss3, ss4, ssg, ssb, ssb+kaioken)
Complete mastery of ultra instinct
Perfect ki control
Super strength
Flight
Telekinesis
Telepathy
Kamehameha wave
Spirit bomb
Instant transmission
Evil containment wave (and bottles for it)
Dragon fist
Power pole (magic pole which superman is weak against)
Senzu bean bag tied to his waist
Can breathe in outer space (thanks to super saiyan god)
Able to get zenkai boosts
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Romulox28
02/08/18 1:05:35 PM
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does goku have time to plan
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FreshOverlord
02/08/18 1:07:14 PM
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K181 posted...
FreshOverlord posted...
K181 posted...
Goku in a straight up fight probably doesn't even need to go Super Saiyan, and if DC fanboys bring up nonsense then Goku just instant transmits Superman to the other side of the universe and abandons him there.


You call on DC fanboys while going full fanboy yourself.


DBZ characters are shown being easily capable of be planet busters and still be considered weak in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you really can end it there. The scale of power difference is massive. Weak DBZ and especially DBS characters could solo most established universes in various action media. Meanwhile, in DC-verse, you just get stuff about supposedly infinite reserves of power to the point that they can claim that he could take on literally any fictional entity when in the actual comics he has issues with mere super-intelligent humans. Call me a weeb, but it's not even close.


Superman has tanked supernovas before. "Planet busting" means nothing. Nothing in the DBVerse comes as close as the crazy stuff Superman as done

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3ovxvl/respect_superman_complete_postcrisis/

While the DB People are mostly informed hype. All the DB guys can do is punch hard and throw energy beams. Sure they can destroy planets, but Superman's durability's way beyond that.

I love Goku and DB way more than anything in DC, but we gotta go by feats. Superman would destroy Goku.
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K181
02/08/18 1:12:48 PM
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FreshOverlord posted...
K181 posted...
FreshOverlord posted...
K181 posted...
Goku in a straight up fight probably doesn't even need to go Super Saiyan, and if DC fanboys bring up nonsense then Goku just instant transmits Superman to the other side of the universe and abandons him there.


You call on DC fanboys while going full fanboy yourself.


DBZ characters are shown being easily capable of be planet busters and still be considered weak in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you really can end it there. The scale of power difference is massive. Weak DBZ and especially DBS characters could solo most established universes in various action media. Meanwhile, in DC-verse, you just get stuff about supposedly infinite reserves of power to the point that they can claim that he could take on literally any fictional entity when in the actual comics he has issues with mere super-intelligent humans. Call me a weeb, but it's not even close.


Superman has tanked supernovas before. "Planet busting" means nothing. Nothing in the DBVerse comes as close as the crazy stuff Superman as done

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3ovxvl/respect_superman_complete_postcrisis/

While the DB People are mostly informed hype. All the DB guys can do is punch hard and throw energy beams. Sure they can destroy planets, but Superman's durability's way beyond that.

I love Goku and DB way more than anything in DC, but we gotta go by feats. Superman would destroy Goku.


Universe busters are a thing in DBS. That more than tips the scale, I said weak DBZ/S characters were planet busters as essentially the floor of the power comparison.
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DrizztLink
02/08/18 1:13:34 PM
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FreshOverlord posted...
K181 posted...
FreshOverlord posted...
K181 posted...
Goku in a straight up fight probably doesn't even need to go Super Saiyan, and if DC fanboys bring up nonsense then Goku just instant transmits Superman to the other side of the universe and abandons him there.


You call on DC fanboys while going full fanboy yourself.


DBZ characters are shown being easily capable of be planet busters and still be considered weak in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you really can end it there. The scale of power difference is massive. Weak DBZ and especially DBS characters could solo most established universes in various action media. Meanwhile, in DC-verse, you just get stuff about supposedly infinite reserves of power to the point that they can claim that he could take on literally any fictional entity when in the actual comics he has issues with mere super-intelligent humans. Call me a weeb, but it's not even close.


Superman has tanked supernovas before. "Planet busting" means nothing. Nothing in the DBVerse comes as close as the crazy stuff Superman as done

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3ovxvl/respect_superman_complete_postcrisis/

While the DB People are mostly informed hype. All the DB guys can do is punch hard and throw energy beams. Sure they can destroy planets, but Superman's durability's way beyond that.

I love Goku and DB way more than anything in DC, but we gotta go by feats. Superman would destroy Goku.

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Muffinz0rz
02/08/18 1:15:18 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/211141-dragon-ball-fighterz/76287986
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LordMarshal
02/08/18 1:18:45 PM
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Superman will always win and be lame.

Goku has lots of cool powers and forms. Goku could out-cool superman even losing.
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FreshOverlord
02/08/18 1:19:34 PM
#32:


K181 posted...

Universe busters are a thing in DBS. That more than tips the scale, I said weak DBZ/S characters were planet busters as essentially the floor of the power comparison.


Good thing Superman can also survive the death of the universe.


Joins the end of the universe with a black hole as it collapses on him


https://imgur.com/a/ANMUr

Also you say universe busters, while the only one that has seen destroying a universe has been Zeno. Even the GoDs can only destroy planets.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 3:06:48 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
no, Madoka wins because she is omnipotent and soulless and hence can use Mafuba but is also immune to it


But Goku can reset until he wins. And he has infinite wisdom.

same with her


But he has all her powers (among others) but exponentially stronger.

how does one apply exponents to infinite
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 3:09:34 PM
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lol
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Muffinz0rz
02/08/18 4:03:05 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/211141-dragon-ball-fighterz/76287986

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Popcorn_Fairy
02/08/18 4:06:54 PM
#37:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
Madoka solos


Popeye defeats Madoka by beating up the people animating the fight.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 5:58:07 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Madoka solos


Popeye defeats Madoka by beating up the people animating the fight.

hmmm

does Madoka have time to plan
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Popcorn_Fairy
02/08/18 6:09:41 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
does Madoka have time to plan


Madoka can plan, but the more time she spends on it, the more spinach Popeye gets.
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008Zulu
02/08/18 8:17:44 PM
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Superman. For he has one power Goku could never match; The Power to give himself any power he wants.
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DevsBro
02/08/18 8:19:47 PM
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lmao

But for real Superman has destroyed entire solar systems by sneezing.

Even in non-Silver-Age he has destroyed planets with the shockwave from punching someone.
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ThanksUglyGod
02/08/18 8:19:58 PM
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I thought we settled this the last 819282018 times
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 10:39:17 PM
#43:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
does Madoka have time to plan


Madoka can plan, but the more time she spends on it, the more spinach Popeye gets.

Popeye wins then
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MysteryMan923
02/08/18 10:47:04 PM
#44:


For those voting Superman can you explain how he wins in the scenario I described. Preferably with something more than "because he's Superman".
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008Zulu
02/08/18 10:54:38 PM
#45:


MysteryMan923 posted...
For those voting Superman can you explain how he wins in the scenario I described. Preferably with something more than "because he's Superman".

Superman fans outnumber Goku fans. The majority win.
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SuperVegito2487
02/08/18 11:03:57 PM
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Doesnt Superman get his power from the Sun?

mglFdNJ

I always understood this as if that beam hit the sun... then it goes boom.
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AlisLandale
02/09/18 11:43:09 AM
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Superman can retain solar energy very well. You can blow up the sun, but he can keep fighting for ages and if things get bad he can zoom to the next yellow sun
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Muffinz0rz
02/09/18 2:19:35 PM
#48:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
I thought we settled this the last 819282018 times

Nope

Some genius on the DBFZ board recently created a topic about it

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/211141-dragon-ball-fighterz/76287986
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