Current Events > The King of Video Games has been dethroned. And it's about damn time, honestly.

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Aristoph
02/05/18 1:19:44 AM
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80/80

Todd Rogers, aka "The King of Video Games", is a fraud and a cheat. He lied about hundreds of world records while working at Twin Galaxies, claiming to have earned a metric fuck-ton of scores that are physically impossible. And by physically impossible, I don't mean as in you can't imagine someone playing a game for enough hours to reach that score. I mean like literally physically impossible. Things like claiming he earned a score that ends in XXXX10 when the game only counts by 50. Or claiming to have earned scores in the tens of millions in a game with a kill-screen that occurs for normal WR players at less than 1 million.

Here's a video describing the bullshit, focusing on the most recent dispute of his supposed world record time in Dragster of 5.51, which was shown to be impossible by a guy called Omnigamer via deconstructing the game's code and creating a spreadsheet to test every possible action on every possible frame of gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54


Due to the dispute and evidence from Omnigamer, and that video from Apollo Legend generating attention in recent months, Twin Galaxies finally decided to pull their heads out of their asses and do something. 30+ years late, mind you, but better late than never, right? >_>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_BE7ICo44


Twin Galaxies finally made a statement. They revoked all of scumbag Rogers' world record scores on TG, and banned him from the site. Guinness World Records was contacted with the new information, and they have revoked theirs as well.

It's about damn time.
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TheMarthKoopa
02/05/18 1:21:29 AM
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Never heard of him
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Tezlok
02/05/18 1:23:34 AM
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Huh. Well he lived a glorified life for 30 years but now he dies in shame and shadows

He shouldn't have made such grand claims if they are impossible. Someone was going to figure it out eventually
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Aristoph
02/05/18 1:24:26 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Never heard of him


Well good, that should make it easy to forget about him, just like literally everybody should. The guy has been a cancer in the world of video games and video game records for over 30 years. He hasn't really been relevant in ages, because most of his records were for old-school arcade/atari games and stuff like that. But it's still good to see the arrogant prick taken down.
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madcaptech
02/05/18 1:25:00 AM
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All he had to do was start in second gear.
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Tezlok
02/05/18 1:26:58 AM
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So who is the new king? Surely someone got propped up by this news. Whoever was just under him in the rankings
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Aristoph
02/05/18 1:29:22 AM
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Tezlok posted...
Someone was going to figure it out eventually


It was known for years. People knew he was bullshit from pretty much day 1, considering many of the top scorers on many of the games he stole the records from knew exactly how impossible his claims were. The problem was that Twin Galaxies has been just about the most corrupt shithole imaginable for video game world record keeping. They have actively lied about his records in the past, with one of their officials having claimed to have personally witnessed his physically impossible Dragster record twice. He used to work for Twin Galaxies and was caught literally entering his own scores into the database without authorization or notifying any of the other officials at least once (but let's be honest here, he probably did it constantly). I could go on, but in the end of the second video Apollo Legend claims he's gotten information that the corruption there goes even deeper than most people realize and he may continue to expose them. I hope he does.
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Aristoph
02/05/18 1:30:30 AM
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Tezlok posted...
So who is the new king? Surely someone got propped up by this news. Whoever was just under him in the rankings


Well, considering Rogers gave himself the nickname, I don't think anybody else wants it. It's not like it's a title that's given to the person with the most records.
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Foppe
02/05/18 1:58:11 AM
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I guess nobody saw how rotten Twin Galaxies was in The King of Kong?
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Rob Cesternino
02/05/18 1:59:22 AM
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When I saw this topic I thought it was going to be about Billy Mitchell
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Aristoph
02/05/18 2:01:33 AM
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Foppe posted...
I guess nobody saw how rotten Twin Galaxies was in The King of Kong?


They were pretty shitty in King of Kong, but that documentary left SOOOO much out of the story (and lied a few times, too, in order to make it "more entertaining" or something).

If you want the real story of the Donkey Kong world record, check this video out from a guy called SummoningSalt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQ2vEHq2N4


And if you're into the history of speedrunning and world records, I'd highly recommend checking out his channel in general. He's got some really good videos, does a ton of research, and has a real knack for putting it all together in an informative but still very entertaining way.
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Aristoph
02/05/18 2:02:24 AM
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Rob Cesternino posted...
When I saw this topic I thought it was going to be about Billy Mitchell


Hopefully that scumbag is next? **crosses fingers**
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masticatingman
02/05/18 2:07:42 AM
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Id recommend anybody interested to watch Apollo Legend videos (on YouTube) on this topic and cheating in speed running in general. But yeah, that dude is just a joke.
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chill02
02/05/18 2:08:18 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Never heard of him

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glitteringfairy
02/05/18 2:24:24 AM
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Never heard of him or twin galaxies
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gunplagirl
02/05/18 2:34:20 AM
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I remember seeing that video about how he lied about dragster months ago. Didn't it also say that even starting in second gear, based on the spreadsheet, still couldn't reach the time he allegedly got?

There won't be anyone else for that Guinness world record spot, I don't think. Since there's nobody who holds (and keeps ahold of) enough records at any point these days unless they're ones with a physical hard limit, in which case those usually end up tied within a year or two. And for speed runs themselves, there's not really enough frame perfect ones held by a single person. Ones like Pokemon with werster keep getting shifted back and forth between two or three players. And that Mario guy keeps topping his old records by literal hundredths of a second if they aren't being beat by his two rivals. But the Mario guy only plays Mario games. And werster hasn't done non Pokemon games since what, 2014 with his golden sun run?
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JoeDaSnow
02/05/18 2:37:13 AM
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Twin Galaxies has no room for liars like him.
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gunplagirl
02/05/18 2:37:26 AM
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masticatingman posted...
Id recommend anybody interested to watch Apollo Legend videos (on YouTube) on this topic and cheating in speed running in general. But yeah, that dude is just a joke.

I remember when the first supposed dark anima clear in a NSG no zanmato challenge happened on the FFX board, and within hours there were people breaking down how it went against the coding for the game.

Cheating in these types of things is bs and deserves scrutiny.
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Shadowplay
02/05/18 2:47:13 AM
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Aristoph posted...
Rob Cesternino posted...
When I saw this topic I thought it was going to be about Billy Mitchell


Hopefully that scumbag is next? **crosses fingers**

He's a bit of a dick, but isn't he legit? Not to mention that the King of Kong showed a part where he was a dick to Steve Woebe, but didn't show a part where he came back and was apologetic.

Edit: Never mind, I'm out of the loop:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/02/donkey-kong-scoreboard-strips-billy-mitchells-high-score-claims/
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jumi
02/05/18 2:56:56 AM
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You could tell Twin Galaxies was a corrupt BS organization in King of Kong.
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