Current Events > U.S. ranks 21st in Democracy Index. Now labelled as "Flawed Democracy"

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iClockwork
02/05/18 1:16:59 AM
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https://www.eiu.com/topic/democracy-index

http://www.businessinsider.com/economist-intelligence-unit-downgrades-united-states-to-flawed-democracy-2017-1

According to the EIU, "full democracies" are countries in which basic political freedoms and civil liberties are respected, and are "underpinned by a political culture conducive to the flourishing of democracy." The government functions satisfactorily; media are independent and diverse; the judiciary is independent and their decisions are enforced; and there's an effective system of checks and balances.

Meanwhile, "flawed democracies" have free and fair elections (with possibly some issues such as infringements on media freedom) and respect basic civil liberties. However, there are governance problems and low levels of political participation.


Top 21:

Full Democracies:

Norway
Iceland
Sweden
New Zealand
Denmark
Ireland
Canada
Australia
Finland
Switzerland
Netherlands
Luxembourg
Germany
United Kingdom
Austria
Mauritius
Malta
Uruguay
Spain

Flawed Democracies:

South Korea
United States
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Tropicalwood
02/05/18 1:20:37 AM
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It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy
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foreveraIone
02/05/18 1:21:16 AM
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iClockwork posted...
South Korea
United States

lollolol
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Ryangrad
02/05/18 1:21:41 AM
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foreveraIone
02/05/18 1:22:23 AM
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also did you get this off r/news?
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HBKick18
02/05/18 1:24:35 AM
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Fake news
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WaffIeElite
02/05/18 1:24:47 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
also did you get this off r/news?


Looks like it's from Business Insider to me, bucko.
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Tyranthraxus
02/05/18 1:24:48 AM
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Calling Spain a full democracy but not USA is a joke. Wealth inequality and bank bailouts are like 10x worse there.
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foreveraIone
02/05/18 1:25:55 AM
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WaffIeElite posted...
foreveraIone posted...
also did you get this off r/news?


Looks like it's from Business Insider to me, bucko.

no I mean there is literally a thread on this on r/news hence why tc posted it here despite being a year old
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RebelElite791
02/05/18 1:27:37 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Calling Spain a full democracy but not USA is a joke. Wealth inequality and bank bailouts are like 10x worse there.

US has a higher Gini coefficient than Spain.
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Coffeebeanz
02/05/18 1:28:38 AM
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The only type of organization that would even create such a list would have some kind of political agenda, benign or otherwise. But still an agenda.
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iClockwork
02/05/18 1:29:33 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
no I mean there is literally a thread on this on r/news hence why tc posted it here despite being a year old

These are the rankings for the year 2017 you can;t rank 2018 because the year isn't over yet...

http://www.businessinsider.com/economist-intelligence-unit-2017-democracy-index-best-countries-2018-1
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RebelElite791
02/05/18 1:30:14 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
The only type of organization that would even create such a list would have some kind of political agenda, benign or otherwise. But still an agenda.

It's the fucking Economist
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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/05/18 1:32:58 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing
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Phantom_Nook
02/05/18 1:34:30 AM
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It doesn't help that the current President is a wannabe dictator.
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Milkman5
02/05/18 1:36:15 AM
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America was never a democracy, it's always been a democratic republic
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foreveraIone
02/05/18 1:36:28 AM
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lol bruh America is just as flawed as sk though.

not surprising
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Tropicalwood
02/05/18 1:38:34 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

It's still a case of comparing apples to oranges, but they're say the oranges are rotten apples instead of oranges.
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Tyranthraxus
02/05/18 1:38:51 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

no the flaw that they're describing is that our politicians are bought and paid for by special interest groups
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byrone
02/05/18 1:43:51 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

no the flaw that they're describing is that our politicians are bought and paid for by special interest groups

Seriously. The shills and deflectors in this topic are sad.
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Tropicalwood
02/05/18 1:51:20 AM
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byrone posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

no the flaw that they're describing is that our politicians are bought and paid for by special interest groups

Seriously. The shills and deflectors in this topic are sad.

They're literally comparing two entirely different systems and saying the US is a flawed democracy even though it was never a democracy to begin with. Next you'll start telling us that Smash Brothers is a flawed fighting game even though it's never been presented as such.
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iClockwork
02/05/18 1:55:18 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
They're literally comparing two entirely different forms of government and saying the US is a flawed democracy even though it was never a democracy to begin with. Next you'll start telling us that Smash Brothers is a flawed fighting game even though it's never been presented as such.

Try reading the article before posting. It makes you look ignorant otherwise.
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Tropicalwood
02/05/18 2:06:27 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
They're literally comparing two entirely different forms of government and saying the US is a flawed democracy even though it was never a democracy to begin with. Next you'll start telling us that Smash Brothers is a flawed fighting game even though it's never been presented as such.

Try reading the article before posting. It makes you look ignorant otherwise.

Dude, get over yourself, you aren't supposed to compare books to movies, they should've taught these morons that in middle-school.
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UnholyMudcrab
02/05/18 2:07:44 AM
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byrone
02/05/18 2:07:51 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
byrone posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

no the flaw that they're describing is that our politicians are bought and paid for by special interest groups

Seriously. The shills and deflectors in this topic are sad.

They're literally comparing two entirely different systems and saying the US is a flawed democracy even though it was never a democracy to begin with. Next you'll start telling us that Smash Brothers is a flawed fighting game even though it's never been presented as such.

iClockwork posted...
Try reading the article before posting. It makes you look ignorant otherwise.
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Tropicalwood
02/05/18 2:20:24 AM
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byrone posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
byrone posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

no the flaw that they're describing is that our politicians are bought and paid for by special interest groups

Seriously. The shills and deflectors in this topic are sad.

They're literally comparing two entirely different systems and saying the US is a flawed democracy even though it was never a democracy to begin with. Next you'll start telling us that Smash Brothers is a flawed fighting game even though it's never been presented as such.

iClockwork posted...
Try reading the article before posting. It makes you look ignorant otherwise.

Why don't you try doing a study on Apples and Oranges and tell me what your results are, I'm sure the study will show they're the exact same thing.
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iClockwork
02/05/18 2:22:59 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
Why don't you try doing a study on Apples and Oranges and tell me what your results are, I'm sure the study will show they're the exact same thing.

Still completely misses the point.

iClockwork posted...
Try reading the article before posting. It makes you look ignorant otherwise.

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Sativa_Rose
02/05/18 2:27:07 AM
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The idea that Spain could rank above the US proves that this list is a joke

Also the idea that people choosing not to vote makes a country more of a flawed democracy is fucking stupid.
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EnragedSlith
02/05/18 2:34:21 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
The only type of organization that would even create such a list would have some kind of political agenda, benign or otherwise. But still an agenda.

It's the fucking Economist

1. Its a British rag.
2. The criteria by which you choose to impartially judge this sort of thing is a statement in and of itself
3. There is an agenda by nature, because the article was researched, written, and then published, which means, if nothing else, they thought there was something substantial about posting this list
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Irony
02/05/18 2:44:18 AM
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All Democracy is flawed
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I_Stay_Noided
02/05/18 2:46:13 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
byrone posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
It's a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy

Well yeah that's probably the flaw they're describing

no the flaw that they're describing is that our politicians are bought and paid for by special interest groups

Seriously. The shills and deflectors in this topic are sad.

They're literally comparing two entirely different systems and saying the US is a flawed democracy even though it was never a democracy to begin with. Next you'll start telling us that Smash Brothers is a flawed fighting game even though it's never been presented as such.

Smash isn't a fighting game
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jumi
02/05/18 2:47:09 AM
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Trump's America.
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