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Sayoria
01/30/18 12:48:19 AM
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We are really pulling into the kanji now and finally into adjectives. Between verbs and adjectives with conjugation, it just seems like it's going to be tough to remember in the end, but I feel like reading will be my strongest point. Speaking and listening, maybe not so much.... but writing and reading is just beginning to feel a lot more natural.



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Aki_Narukami
01/30/18 12:50:46 AM
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omae wa mou shinderu
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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/30/18 12:52:45 AM
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I've been working my way through Genki 1 and 2 the past couple weeks after I memorized hiragana and katakana and I managed to get Rosetta Stone for $20 (The program itself is pretty useless for learning a language like Japanese but thats a steal for 12 classes with a native speaker).
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Omegle
01/30/18 12:54:10 AM
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I feel like the more I learn Japanese, the more pathetic I get
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Back_Stabbath
01/30/18 12:55:21 AM
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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/30/18 12:58:01 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...




The point is that language learning works your mind in completely different ways than anything else I've found. Especially a language like Japanese that is completely different than English. Just learning a language like Spanish or French from English is cake. Going from English to Japanese is learning a whole new writing system, alphabet and way of thinking because everything from where verbs are in a sentence to the alphabet is completely different.

Keeps you sharp.
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Back_Stabbath
01/30/18 12:58:23 AM
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...




The point is that language learning works your mind in completely different ways than anything else I've found. Especially a language like Japanese that is completely different than English. Just learning a language like Spanish or French from English is cake. Going from English to Japanese is learning a whole new writing system, alphabet and way of thinking because everything from where verbs are in a sentence to the alphabet is completely different.

Keeps you sharp.

wow i just retranslated that and google made me sound like a dick :( my original input wasn't that condescending lul
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Sayoria
01/30/18 1:07:37 AM
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
I've been working my way through Genki 1 and 2 the past couple weeks after I memorized hiragana and katakana and I managed to get Rosetta Stone for $20 (The program itself is pretty useless for learning a language like Japanese but thats a steal for 12 classes with a native speaker).


Yeah, I am using Genki with this class too. It's such a basic and very straight-forward book. Absolutely loving it.

Omegle posted...
I feel like the more I learn Japanese, the more pathetic I get


More to Japan than anime and video game things.

Back_Stabbath posted...




Way too many kanji I haven't learned yet.
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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/30/18 1:09:50 AM
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If you like podcasts, listen to Japanese from Zero from the beginning casually. If you're going through Genki you already know the content but the podcast is by a guy who lives in Japan and teaches you how to not sound like a foreigner when you speak Japanese that classes won't ever teach because they want you to be overly polite.
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Sayoria
01/30/18 1:11:36 AM
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...




The point is that language learning works your mind in completely different ways than anything else I've found. Especially a language like Japanese that is completely different than English. Just learning a language like Spanish or French from English is cake. Going from English to Japanese is learning a whole new writing system, alphabet and way of thinking because everything from where verbs are in a sentence to the alphabet is completely different.

Keeps you sharp.


Didn't some recent study also say that learning another language delays dementia as well? That's something pretty great as well.
But that's all the exciting-ness of it all. It's not Spanish. It's an Asian language. Something far different as you said, than already having the romanized letters there for you. When you look at Spanish, an English speaker can make out some words by association. When an English speaker sees things written in an Asian language, it trips the mind like "How the Hell do they write and read that?" .... It's fascinating. It's so beyond the anime and game realm. It's just very fascinating.
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Dragonblade01
01/30/18 1:11:50 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...




Way too many kanji I haven't learned yet.

Don't worry. It's a google translation mess regardless.
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Sayoria
01/30/18 1:13:07 AM
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
If you like podcasts, listen to Japanese from Zero from the beginning casually. If you're going through Genki you already know the content but the podcast is by a guy who lives in Japan and teaches you how to not sound like a foreigner when you speak Japanese that classes won't ever teach because they want you to be overly polite.


Yeah. She's been on us about the politeness. I'll take that into consideration once I actually at least have the overall grasp of it. Messing around with my mind on this this early is a bad idea.
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Back_Stabbath
01/30/18 1:14:20 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Sayoria posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...




Way too many kanji I haven't learned yet.

Don't worry. It's a google translation mess regardless.

the whole point of the post was to see how accurate google translate is since there are people that seem to know japanese ITT. I always thought translate was awful but it seemed to process OPs non-googletranslate post fine which surprised me (i normally get true gibberish). I'm not pretending to know the language.
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Dragonblade01
01/30/18 1:16:02 AM
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I mean, it's better than it used to be. But it still jumbles everything up pretty bad, makes odd word choices by directly converting the English word to some rough Japanese equivalent, and overall will only give you the gist of what the original writer was trying to say.
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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/30/18 1:18:28 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
I mean, it's better than it used to be. But it still jumbles everything up pretty bad, makes odd word choices by directly converting the English word to some rough Japanese equivalent, and overall will only give you the gist of what the original writer was trying to say.


Its good enough for one word translations. I'm at the reading children's books stage of learning Japanese and I've been keeping google translate handy for words I haven't encountered yet (of which there are many).
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Sayoria
01/30/18 1:21:09 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Sayoria posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...




Way too many kanji I haven't learned yet.

Don't worry. It's a google translation mess regardless.

the whole point of the post was to see how accurate google translate is since there are people that seem to know japanese ITT. I always thought translate was awful but it seemed to process OPs non-googletranslate post fine which surprised me (i normally get true gibberish). I'm not pretending to know the language.


Well, I am still only in my second Japanese course, so my Japanese is super basic at this point. I don't think anything I'd type would be hit as awkward on google translate really. The only questioning I have with it is that since I don't know too many kanji, the areas where I use hiragana seems like it could really make a mess of the sentence. Kanji DOES strengthen what the translation should be after all.
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