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Metro2
01/25/18 6:57:50 PM
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Phantom_Nook
01/25/18 6:59:04 PM
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other people having rights is what Christians consider persecution.
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LeningradCowboy
01/25/18 7:04:53 PM
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There are Christians being persecuted in the world. Very few of them live in the United States.
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littlebro07
01/25/18 7:09:07 PM
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Kind of odd that a group that believes someone gave them free will but will punish them for eternity for using it thinks they're being persecuted
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LeningradCowboy
01/25/18 7:13:17 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Kind of odd that a group that believes someone gave them free will but will punish them for eternity for using it thinks they're being persecuted


Not all Christians believe in free will. It's called Calvinism.
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littlebro07
01/25/18 7:15:49 PM
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LeningradCowboy posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Kind of odd that a group that believes someone gave them free will but will punish them for eternity for using it thinks they're being persecuted


Not all Christians believe in free will. It's called Calvinism.


Are they the same ones saying being gay is a choice

Because that's fucking hilarious
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LeningradCowboy
01/25/18 8:25:17 PM
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VoightKent posted...
The Bible literally says in its last book that all true Catholics will be persecuted in the End Times


LOL

If anything, the book of Revelation makes it sound as if the Catholic church itself is the Whore of Babylon. There's a reason Martin Luther and others considered the papacy to be the seat of Antichrist.
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 8:26:13 PM
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not bending to their beliefs and changing every law the entire nation has to follow to mimic their beliefs = "persecution"
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:27:38 PM
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You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 8:28:44 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...
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Ricemills
01/25/18 8:29:29 PM
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sadly yes. even though the average Christians in my country lives more prosperous than the majority, i still hear the oppression topics on my sunday sermons.
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Newhopes
01/25/18 8:29:59 PM
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Well liberals hate their guts so ya....
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KILBOTz
01/25/18 8:31:03 PM
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LeningradCowboy posted...
There are Christians being persecuted in the world. Very few of them live in the United States.

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LeningradCowboy
01/25/18 8:31:14 PM
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Newhopes posted...
Well liberals hate their guts so ya....


Someone not liking you isn't persecution, it's life.
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prince_leo
01/25/18 8:33:06 PM
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I have a pastor on my facebook and the main three things i've learned from him are that
the miami dolphins are listening to satan for kneeling
that trump is necessary, despite being unpleasant, because of his views on abortion and appointment of gorsuch
and that christians face the most persecution of any group at any point in time
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
01/25/18 8:34:34 PM
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These are the same people who will tell you that feminism is needed elsewhere but not in America.
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MrBobGray
01/25/18 8:36:04 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:36:10 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...

Don't pretend like the OP is trying to make them people the model for Christian persecution
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BignutzisBack
01/25/18 8:37:07 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
LeningradCowboy posted...
There are Christians being persecuted in the world. Very few of them live in the United States.


this, there are some sheltered people ITT smh
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 8:37:55 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...

Don't pretend like the OP is trying to make them people the model for Christian persecution

the people in the video, that TC is talking about, aren't talking about people in the middle east...they're talking about themselves....in Texas and California. That is who we are discussing.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:44:30 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...

Don't pretend like the OP is trying to make them people the model for Christian persecution

the people in the video, that TC is talking about, aren't talking about people in the middle east...they're talking about themselves....in Texas and California. That is who we are discussing.

No we are discussing Christian persecution.

Vjpa please stop. You do this all the time and literally make light of real issues.
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ilovuu
01/25/18 8:46:34 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...

Don't pretend like the OP is trying to make them people the model for Christian persecution

the people in the video, that TC is talking about, aren't talking about people in the middle east...they're talking about themselves....in Texas and California. That is who we are discussing.

No we are discussing Christian persecution.

Vjpa please stop. You do this all the time and literally make light of real issues.

did you actually watch the video you are embarrassing yourself
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 8:47:04 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...

Don't pretend like the OP is trying to make them people the model for Christian persecution

the people in the video, that TC is talking about, aren't talking about people in the middle east...they're talking about themselves....in Texas and California. That is who we are discussing.

No we are discussing Christian persecution.

Vjpa please stop. You do this all the time and literally make light of real issues.

Yes. And TC posted that video to back up what he's talking about. so that is what we're discussing. "some Christians"...we're discussing some of those Christians. You're right. Many Christians are treated terribly in other places. but that's clearly not who TC was talking about this topic...
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Zikten
01/25/18 8:48:39 PM
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i saw a news story today on tv about some girl in the south suing her school district for having public prayers in class. I didn't even know that was legal. but anyway, they interviewed a local pastor or something and he said that this girl is taking away his children's right to speak to God. and I thought "um....dumbass? they can just pray at home"
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Doom_Art
01/25/18 8:49:13 PM
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"The most prosecuted group in the world is the white heterosexual male christian"
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:49:30 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You must have never been to most middle eastern countries where Christians are killed for being a Christian

because that's definitely who the people in that video are talking about...

Don't pretend like the OP is trying to make them people the model for Christian persecution

the people in the video, that TC is talking about, aren't talking about people in the middle east...they're talking about themselves....in Texas and California. That is who we are discussing.

No we are discussing Christian persecution.

Vjpa please stop. You do this all the time and literally make light of real issues.

Yes. And TC posted that video to back up what he's talking about. so that is what we're discussing. "some Christians"...we're discussing some of those Christians. You're right. Many Christians are treated terribly in other places. but that's clearly not who TC was talking about this topic...

Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 8:50:23 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

yea. all beliefs are. my liberal beliefs are often met with that. I'm not being persecuted, though.
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LeningradCowboy
01/25/18 8:51:18 PM
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Zikten posted...
i saw a news story today on tv about some girl in the south suing her school district for having public prayers in class. I didn't even know that was legal. but anyway, they interviewed a local pastor or something and he said that this girl is taking away his children's right to speak to God. and I thought "um....dumbass? they can just pray at home"


Or, like, in their heads. Seriously, you don't need to be on bended knee, eyes closed, and shouting to the heavens to speak to an omniscient God.
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Skye Reynolds
01/25/18 8:51:29 PM
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Harassment? Yes. Persecution? No.

Yes, Bill Maher, Seth McFarlane, that Japanese RPG programmer, and that guy on Twitter with the fedora are dicks for mocking your religion. No, their animosity toward you is not persecution. People who think they're persecuted because someone spoke a bad word about them are annoying.

That said, so are the people who actively bash Christianity and then want to act like it's all in Christians' heads that they've been insulted.
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NibeIungsnarf
01/25/18 8:51:48 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

A) You just made that up

B) That's not persecution
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:52:04 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

yea. all beliefs are. my liberal beliefs are often met with that. I'm not being persecuted, though.

Bullying = persecution. Just because it doesnt feel like your being persecuted does not mean it's not happening.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:52:42 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

A) You just made that up

B) That's not persecution

Yes it it. Look up the definition
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ilovuu
01/25/18 8:52:48 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

yea. all beliefs are. my liberal beliefs are often met with that. I'm not being persecuted, though.

Bullying = persecution. Just because it doesnt feel like your being persecuted does not mean it's not happening.

you are sheltered.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 8:54:06 PM
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ilovuu posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

yea. all beliefs are. my liberal beliefs are often met with that. I'm not being persecuted, though.

Bullying = persecution. Just because it doesnt feel like your being persecuted does not mean it's not happening.

you are sheltered.

Google the definition of persecution right now and tell me I'm wrong. You can even copy and paste
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NibeIungsnarf
01/25/18 8:57:40 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

A) You just made that up

B) That's not persecution

Yes it it. Look up the definition

You ignored my A) comment.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 9:00:35 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

A) You just made that up

B) That's not persecution

Yes it it. Look up the definition

You ignored my A) comment.

Okay. Did you ignore where I asked for a definition of persecution?
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NibeIungsnarf
01/25/18 9:01:16 PM
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Okay.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 9:02:22 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Okay.

That's what I thought
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 9:03:24 PM
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i don't even know what religion more than half of the people i deal with on a daily basis are. this notion that people are attacked at a rapid rate simply for being christian in this country is wrong and disingenuous. the attacks usually start when they say something like "we should ban same sex marriage because my religion says so"...and in that case they're opening up that dialog.

am i saying it NEVER happens that people are attacked simply for admitting they're Christian? of course not, idiots do exist...but it doesn't happen as plainly as that video in the OP makes it sound.
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ilovuu
01/25/18 9:04:41 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
ilovuu posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Even the video isn't that wrong. You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?

yea. all beliefs are. my liberal beliefs are often met with that. I'm not being persecuted, though.

Bullying = persecution. Just because it doesnt feel like your being persecuted does not mean it's not happening.

you are sheltered.

Google the definition of persecution right now and tell me I'm wrong. You can even copy and paste

you are sheltered
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/25/18 9:04:43 PM
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Everyone thinks they're being persecuted in this country.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 9:06:47 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Everyone thinks they're being persecuted in this country.

Doesn't matter. None of you can argue against the actual definition of the word which means it actually happens and now Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Everyone thinks they're being persecuted in this country.

Does it fit the definition? If so then they are
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/25/18 9:08:45 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

Does it fit the definition?


Nope.
No one in the U.S. is being persecuted, that's the great thing about it, but unfortunately that's why every group thinks they are.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 9:09:43 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...

Does it fit the definition?


Nope.
No one in the U.S. is being persecuted, that's the great thing about it, but unfortunately that's why every group thinks they are.

Post the definition then
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TheVipaGTS
01/25/18 9:10:48 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...

Does it fit the definition?


Nope.
No one in the U.S. is being persecuted, that's the great thing about it, but unfortunately that's why every group thinks they are.

Post the definition then

Fuck hell men you keep playing this "TECHNICALLY!" game..you know damn well what the people in the OP mean and what this topic is about...you made yourself look dumb with the "people in other countries!..." defense and now you're doubling down on this now that you were called out on that one...come on...
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/25/18 9:12:16 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
You gonna tell me that stating your beliefs in America isn't met with a "**** you you racist homophobic bigot" everytime?


Christians are the majority you fucking whining, whinging . . .

Cry me a fucking river. Go read a history book if you want to understand persecution.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/25/18 9:15:29 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Post the definition then


subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their race or political or religious beliefs.


So a useless definition that applies to literally everyone at all times. Great, what did this add to the conversation? Nothing? Absolutely nothing? Nadda? Zeroethnessly?
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GATTJT
01/25/18 9:17:54 PM
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Sure Christians in America are persecuted, but by a minority of Americans. 75 percent of Americans identified with a Christian religion in 2015. Also, I don't have much sympathy for bigots being called out as bigots.
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ToonLinkWithGun
01/25/18 9:18:10 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Post the definition then


subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their race or political or religious beliefs.


So a useless definition that applies to literally everyone at all times. Great, what did this add to the conversation? Nothing? Absolutely nothing? Nadda? Zeroethnessly?

But it's persecution...you are literally winning my argument for me...but in case that ain't enough here's a screenshot

pOcAytL
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