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Balrog0
01/24/18 1:20:09 PM
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it, too

some context: a police officer posted a picture on facebook (years before he joined the police force) that showed a picture of a black person he was friends with and had the caption "Go night night [n-word]. Go night night"

a fellow (black officer) saw the post and complained to the white officer who posted it and the white officer took it down

the black police officer union filed a formal complaint after this with the police chief asking for the white officer's dismissal and the white officer's lawyer responded by showing that the black officer who had originally complained also regularly used the n-word on social media in the years before he was an officer:

"Both of these were done when both individuals were younger," Newcomb wrote. "If it is conduct unbecoming for one, it would be conduct unbecoming for the other."

the police fired both the white guy and the black guy

fair? unfair? stupid? thoughts?
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emblem boy
01/24/18 1:21:48 PM
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Neither should have been fired
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Questionmarktarius
01/24/18 1:22:15 PM
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Both "fair" and "stupid".
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OpheliaAdenade
01/24/18 1:23:03 PM
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I think black people are allowed to say that word because they're "reclaiming" it. :v Like how homos can call each other the f word.
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Kineth
01/24/18 1:23:13 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Both "fair" and "stupid".

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Bishop9800
01/24/18 1:23:19 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Neither should have been fired


This
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A_Good_Boy
01/24/18 1:23:36 PM
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Sounds pretty fair to me.
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Lordgold666
01/24/18 1:24:36 PM
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Fair
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CharlesBronson
01/24/18 1:25:53 PM
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neither should have been fired but since the white guy got fired i'm glad the black guy got fired
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FrisbeeDude
01/24/18 1:29:19 PM
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Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.
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SapphireOfChaos
01/24/18 1:32:04 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Both "fair" and "stupid".

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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/24/18 1:34:53 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Both "fair" and "stupid".

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r4X0r
01/24/18 1:35:52 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


To say that one person cannot use a certain word because of the color of their skin is no different and no less racist than saying one person cannot sit at the front of the bus because of the color of their skin.
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Ben_Ruggiero
01/24/18 1:36:26 PM
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Good. It's not "their" word. It's nobody's word.
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Darkman124
01/24/18 1:37:05 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
stupid?

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gmanthebest
01/24/18 1:38:16 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Neither should have been fired

This.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/24/18 1:42:34 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


I'm more forgiving of blacks using it but don't in a professional setting. Just fucking don't.
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Balrog0
01/24/18 1:43:55 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


I'm more forgiving of blacks using it but don't in a professional setting. Just fucking don't.


I thought I made this clear, but if not: This was all on social media and years prior to their joining the police force
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thelovefist
01/24/18 1:45:47 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


Imagine believing this.
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FrisbeeDude
01/24/18 1:46:13 PM
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r4X0r posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


To say that one person cannot use a certain word because of the color of their skin is no different and no less racist than saying one person cannot sit at the front of the bus because of the color of their skin.


Ok
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Questionmarktarius
01/24/18 1:52:11 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
r4X0r posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


To say that one person cannot use a certain word because of the color of their skin is no different and no less racist than saying one person cannot sit at the front of the bus because of the color of their skin.


Ok

Do you want equality, or not?
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Kineth
01/24/18 1:53:40 PM
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He never said that other people can't use it. He said they'll be judged differently... which is just a fact of the matter.
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Eat More Beef
01/24/18 1:56:50 PM
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Neither should have been fired. Why'd the black dude go to the union, if after he brought it up, the white dude apologised and got rid of it?

Like, was the white dude actually racist at work too?

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Balrog0
01/24/18 1:57:59 PM
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Eat More Beef posted...
Why'd the black dude go to the union, if after he brought it up, the white dude apologised and got rid of it?


who said that he did? maybe whatever happened to make him see it also caused other black officers to see it and they reported it anonymously?
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TheAnthraxBunny
01/24/18 1:59:12 PM
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The white guy should have been killed (along with his family) and the black guy should have been elected president of at least 3 countries.
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FrisbeeDude
01/24/18 2:02:01 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
r4X0r posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


To say that one person cannot use a certain word because of the color of their skin is no different and no less racist than saying one person cannot sit at the front of the bus because of the color of their skin.


Ok

Do you want equality, or not?


Sure do. Call me when black and white kids have equal access to quality health care and education...then we can get back to this pressing issue lol
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Balrog0
01/24/18 2:02:30 PM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
In the current political atmosphere law enforcement should not be using that term.


the posts they cited were from 2013 (white guy) and 2010 (black guy)
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FrisbeeDude
01/24/18 2:03:47 PM
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Kineth posted...
He never said that other people can't use it. He said they'll be judged differently... which is just a fact of the matter.


They know this, they just wanna cry about it.
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DirkDiggles
01/24/18 2:04:05 PM
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.Questionmarktarius posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
r4X0r posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Dumb as fuck firing the black guy. It's the real life equivalent of the dumbass "same thing, both sides" argument I see floated around here.

No matter how much certain element of this country plead to tell you otherwise, there is a difference between a white a black person using it. Sorry, not sorry.


To say that one person cannot use a certain word because of the color of their skin is no different and no less racist than saying one person cannot sit at the front of the bus because of the color of their skin.


Ok

Do you want equality, or not?


Plz don't get Draje started.
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TheVipaGTS
01/24/18 2:06:04 PM
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What is context anymore? Its not just the word. Its the context behind it.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/24/18 2:08:52 PM
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Kineth posted...
He never said that other people can't use it. He said they'll be judged differently... which is just a fact of the matter.


When "judging" people is firing public servants, double standards become a problem.
That's not just the court of public opinion, no one here expects society to judge a white guy the same as a black guy for using the n word.
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Knowledge_King
01/24/18 3:22:42 PM
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That's extremely stupid...and something that police would do.
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darkjedilink
01/24/18 3:25:29 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Neither should have been fired

This.

Though, if we are going to fire people for saying it, you can't discriminate by race.
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Kineth
01/24/18 4:23:30 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Kineth posted...
He never said that other people can't use it. He said they'll be judged differently... which is just a fact of the matter.


When "judging" people is firing public servants, double standards become a problem.


Yeah, what I was responding to wasn't using this context though.

That's not just the court of public opinion, no one here expects society to judge a white guy the same as a black guy for using the n word.


I think you're mistaken.
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The Admiral
01/24/18 4:25:38 PM
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A black dude using the n-word at work still deserves to be fired for being unprofessional. No one should be using racial slurs at their job.
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Axiom
01/24/18 4:27:26 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
some context: a police officer posted a picture on facebook (years before he joined the police force) that showed a picture of a black person he was friends with and had the caption "Go night night [n-word]. Go night night"

Eh that doesn't sound malicious. Stupid but not malicious so I wouldn't really say he should be fired for fear he might be biased when dealing with black people. Black guy shouldn't have been fired regardless
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Balrog0
01/24/18 4:28:30 PM
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The Admiral posted...
A black dude using the n-word at work still deserves to be fired for being unprofessional. No one should using racial slurs at their job.

Balrog0 posted...
a police officer posted a picture on facebook (years before he joined the police force)

Balrog0 posted...
the posts they cited were from 2013 (white guy) and 2010 (black guy)


I almost bolded that part. I wish tat I had now
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Teddytalks
01/24/18 4:30:34 PM
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Fair.

I need to clean out my old Facebook history now.
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Tmk
01/24/18 4:31:06 PM
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This is like a modern equivalent of sawing a baby in half to settle a dispute over who should get it.
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RickyTheBAWSE
01/24/18 4:33:59 PM
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Tmk posted...
This is like a modern equivalent of sawing a baby in half to settle a dispute over who should get it.


anything to appease the demographics that run on stupid.
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LJRENEGADE
01/24/18 4:37:59 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Neither should have been fired

This really. Both weren't intending to be hateful, at least as far as I can tell, and both used it when they were younger, before even becoming cops.

Social media can be a scary thing though if stuff like this happens. I feel bad for kids growing up with it who will say dumb shit before they're old or smart enough not to.
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darkjedilink
01/24/18 4:38:39 PM
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Axiom posted...
Balrog0 posted...
some context: a police officer posted a picture on facebook (years before he joined the police force) that showed a picture of a black person he was friends with and had the caption "Go night night [n-word]. Go night night"

Eh that doesn't sound malicious. Stupid but not malicious so I wouldn't really say he should be fired for fear he might be biased when dealing with black people. Black guy shouldn't have been fired regardless

This line of thought is racist.
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Kineth
01/24/18 4:39:42 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
The Admiral posted...
A black dude using the n-word at work still deserves to be fired for being unprofessional. No one should using racial slurs at their job.

Balrog0 posted...
a police officer posted a picture on facebook (years before he joined the police force)

Balrog0 posted...
the posts they cited were from 2013 (white guy) and 2010 (black guy)


I almost bolded that part. I wish tat I had now


Admiral isn't interested in the facts unless the facts allow him to negatively comment on black people.
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Balrog0
01/24/18 6:48:49 PM
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Balrog0
01/25/18 9:47:20 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
Why'd the black dude go to the union, if after he brought it up, the white dude apologised and got rid of it?


who said that he did? maybe whatever happened to make him see it also caused other black officers to see it and they reported it anonymously?


found out that the person who did report it, a different (higher ranked) officer, was suspended today for breaking the chain of command in reporting the incident to the black police union instead of the real management
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Questionmarktarius
01/25/18 9:52:03 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
found out that the person who did report it, a different (higher ranked) officer, was suspended today for breaking the chain of command in reporting the incident to the black police union instead of the real management

So a third officer is involved now?
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