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TheMarthKoopa
01/23/18 10:52:30 PM
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But the circle button is literally falling off the controller

UTNltHI

Should have used Wii U Pro's layout, but instead they want your finger to slide off the side when pressing circle
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D-Lo_BrownTown
01/23/18 10:53:48 PM
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Cause Microsoft patented the best controller.
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TheMarthKoopa
01/23/18 10:54:21 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Cause Microsoft patented the best controller.

Microsoft didn't make the Wii U Pro
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Malcrasternus
01/23/18 10:54:29 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Cause Microsoft patented the best controller.

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andel
01/23/18 10:55:47 PM
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stock ps4 controller is good. xbone controller is best but unfortunately that is the only thing xbone did better than ps4.
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Lvaneede
01/23/18 10:56:50 PM
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Xbox One controller and Switch Pro controller are the best two, I think
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Gamer99z
01/23/18 10:56:57 PM
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The Xbox One controller is better but I don't get the hate for the DS4. I think it's still a great controller.
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AlternativeFAQS
01/23/18 10:57:22 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Cause Microsoft patented the best controller.

Microsoft didn't make the Wii U Pro

ffs lol
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 10:57:40 PM
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Xbox 360 controller w/ the alternative D Pad is the best
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Tmk
01/23/18 10:57:47 PM
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The Pro controller is objectively inferior to the DS4.
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TheMarthKoopa
01/23/18 10:57:59 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
but I don't get the hate for the DS4

Sticks are on the bottom

Small frame

Battery is shit
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 10:59:42 PM
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:01:03 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Gamer99z posted...
but I don't get the hate for the DS4

Sticks are on the bottom

Small frame

Battery is shit


Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?
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andel
01/23/18 11:01:46 PM
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battery is not shit on the ds4, it is actually fucking great
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TheMarthKoopa
01/23/18 11:02:18 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

I don't give a shit about the X1

Switch Pro (2nd best) and Wii U Pro (THE best) have 60-80 hour batteries

andel posted...
battery is not shit on the ds4, it is actually fucking great

Not even 1/10th of the Wii U Pro's battery

I don't want to charge my controller every other session
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Tmk
01/23/18 11:02:26 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

...WHAT.

I don't have an X1 but I mean, I know what its controller looks like and I'd definitely give it a thumbs up, seems good...but it takes AA batteries? Are you shitting me?

Is there...is there a version that doesn't? If not then...yeah gonna have to declare it: DS4 is the overall best, definitely.
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:04:37 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Gamer99z posted...
but I don't get the hate for the DS4

Sticks are on the bottom

Small frame

Battery is shit


Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

It uses whatever you want to put in it.

I put in rechargeable AAs that cost me $15 for the whole thing (charger plus 4 batteries), each set lasting 40 hours.

Much better than having to turn your controller into a wired controller every 4 hours.
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Tmk
01/23/18 11:06:05 PM
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I'd rather just keep it wired the whole time. I don't sit super far away from the console or move around when I'm playing so I really have nothing to gain from wireless.
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:06:10 PM
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Tmk posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

...WHAT.

I don't have an X1 but I mean, I know what its controller looks like and I'd definitely give it a thumbs up, seems good...but it takes AA batteries? Are you shitting me?

Is there...is there a version that doesn't? If not then...yeah gonna have to declare it: DS4 is the overall best, definitely.


No. It uses AA batteries or an optional $30 battery pack.

Even the fucking $150 X1 Elite controller requires AA batteries
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Bio1590
01/23/18 11:07:42 PM
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Nothing wrong with the AAs, just buy sets of rechargable batteries.

Dies? Slap in a fresh set and put the other ones in the charger.
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:09:53 PM
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"Who needs Japanese games or third party exclusives"

"Who needs rechargeable controllers"

Seems like they'd get along with GameCube fans

Should at least ask for a kiss before you get screwed
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andel
01/23/18 11:14:33 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

I don't give a shit about the X1

Switch Pro (2nd best) and Wii U Pro (THE best) have 60-80 hour batteries

andel posted...
battery is not shit on the ds4, it is actually fucking great

Not even 1/10th of the Wii U Pro's battery

I don't want to charge my controller every other session


i have two ps4 controllers and one is always charged for at least a few days of playing games a couple hours or more a day
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:15:38 PM
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Wii U Pro controller would deserve praise it any games were compatible with it
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:17:18 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Tmk posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

...WHAT.

I don't have an X1 but I mean, I know what its controller looks like and I'd definitely give it a thumbs up, seems good...but it takes AA batteries? Are you shitting me?

Is there...is there a version that doesn't? If not then...yeah gonna have to declare it: DS4 is the overall best, definitely.


No. It uses AA batteries or an optional $30 battery pack.

Even the fucking $150 X1 Elite controller requires AA batteries

...or a $15 set of rechargable AAs and charging kit

Seriously, why do people keep overlooking this extremely superior option? You can even use them for other applications because they're just AAs.
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:18:47 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Tmk posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

...WHAT.

I don't have an X1 but I mean, I know what its controller looks like and I'd definitely give it a thumbs up, seems good...but it takes AA batteries? Are you shitting me?

Is there...is there a version that doesn't? If not then...yeah gonna have to declare it: DS4 is the overall best, definitely.


No. It uses AA batteries or an optional $30 battery pack.

Even the fucking $150 X1 Elite controller requires AA batteries

...or a $15 set of rechargable AAs and charging kit

Seriously, why do people keep overlooking this extremely superior option? You can even use them for other applications because they're just AAs.


Man I can't wait for AA powered smartphones
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Tmk
01/23/18 11:19:05 PM
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Something I learned from Souls games is positioning my hand in such a way that I can hold the run button while still operating the camera with my thumb, and this is ONLY possible if the right stick is below the face buttons.

The Pro controller puts the stick above the face buttons, and I cannot think of a single advantage to this.

Pro also lacks the trackpad thing and motion controls despite costing the same and being bigger.

I mean it's better than a stupid gamepad or N64 abomination but that's not saying much.
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AlternativeFAQS
01/23/18 11:20:00 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Tmk posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

...WHAT.

I don't have an X1 but I mean, I know what its controller looks like and I'd definitely give it a thumbs up, seems good...but it takes AA batteries? Are you shitting me?

Is there...is there a version that doesn't? If not then...yeah gonna have to declare it: DS4 is the overall best, definitely.


No. It uses AA batteries or an optional $30 battery pack.

Even the fucking $150 X1 Elite controller requires AA batteries


it's just an extra option. you are so goddamn dumb
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:20:09 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Tmk posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Don't have a lot of room to talk when the X1 controller uses AA batteries seriously what the hell is this, 2001?

...WHAT.

I don't have an X1 but I mean, I know what its controller looks like and I'd definitely give it a thumbs up, seems good...but it takes AA batteries? Are you shitting me?

Is there...is there a version that doesn't? If not then...yeah gonna have to declare it: DS4 is the overall best, definitely.


No. It uses AA batteries or an optional $30 battery pack.

Even the fucking $150 X1 Elite controller requires AA batteries

...or a $15 set of rechargable AAs and charging kit

Seriously, why do people keep overlooking this extremely superior option? You can even use them for other applications because they're just AAs.


Man I can't wait for AA powered smartphones

It's like you're trying to miss the point.
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:20:50 PM
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There is no point. AA batteries are the 56k modems of power supply. If you want longer battery life, put a larger rechargeable battery in your device. I bought a $10 3x capacity battery for my DS4 and never looked back.
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:22:13 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
There is no point. AA batteries are the 56k modems of power supply.

You're so caught up on "muh future" that you throw practicality out the window.

Or you're just trying to justify a position you've already blindly decided to take.
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AlternativeFAQS
01/23/18 11:22:23 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
There is no point. AA batteries are the 56k modems of power supply. If you want longer battery life, put a larger rechargeable battery in your device. I bought a $10 3x capacity battery for my DS4 and never looked back.


and you're a serious version of Ken M
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:24:09 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
If you want longer battery life, put a larger rechargeable battery in your device. I bought a $10 3x capacity battery for my DS4 and never looked back.

Since when could you do that?

And lol, THEN HOW IS THIS A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE XBOX? You just spent similar money on a battery! That's exactly what you're saying is stupid omg
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Coffeebeanz
01/23/18 11:26:44 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
If you want longer battery life, put a larger rechargeable battery in your device. I bought a $10 3x capacity battery for my DS4 and never looked back.

Since when could you do that?

And lol, THEN HOW IS THIS A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE XBOX? You just spent similar money on a battery! That's exactly what you're saying is stupid omg


Since, uh, 2014?

Here's a 1.5x capacity for $7.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003LJPT5S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_pRaAAbMPFRQNW
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TheMarthKoopa
01/23/18 11:27:05 PM
#34:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Wii U Pro controller would deserve praise it any games were compatible with it

There were plenty of good games on Wii U and the Mayflash adapter brings it to PC+PS3 with perfect Dinput and Xinput support

Looks like Mayflash has a universal adapter for PS3/4/Wii U Pro/Switch Pro/X1 controllers onto PS3/4/PC now. Gonna go and buy that.
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:31:14 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
If you want longer battery life, put a larger rechargeable battery in your device. I bought a $10 3x capacity battery for my DS4 and never looked back.

Since when could you do that?

And lol, THEN HOW IS THIS A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE XBOX? You just spent similar money on a battery! That's exactly what you're saying is stupid omg


Since, uh, 2014?

Here's a 1.5x capacity for $7.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003LJPT5S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_pRaAAbMPFRQNW

So you have to disassemble the controller and upgrade the battery? That's still not as good as being able to swap back and forth mid game between charged batteries.

You also need to explain that second part again. You previously mocked Xbox One controllers for having to buy a battery pack/rechargable AAs but here you are telling us you bought a battery for similar money for PS4
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Gamer99z
01/23/18 11:31:50 PM
#36:


TheMarthKoopa posted...
Gamer99z posted...
but I don't get the hate for the DS4

Sticks are on the bottom

Small frame

Battery is shit

I don't find the stick placement that annoying personally. The size is great for me, just like the XBO controller is, but I'll agree about the battery. It's garbage compared to the DS3. But I keep mine plugged in to an old phone charger so it doesn't matter to me.
At least it has a rechargable battery though, the Xbox One still taking regular batteries is a joke imo.
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AlternativeFAQS
01/23/18 11:33:18 PM
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i remember watching sony people try to explain how having a non-removable battery (without disassembly) was better than having the option of using AAs or removable/rechargeable battery packs. this topic is bring back from vietnam flashbacks
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weapon_d00d816
01/23/18 11:35:20 PM
#38:


Gamer99z posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Gamer99z posted...
but I don't get the hate for the DS4

Sticks are on the bottom

Small frame

Battery is shit

I don't find the stick placement that annoying personally. The size is great for me, just like the XBO controller is, but I'll agree about the battery. It's garbage compared to the DS3. But I keep mine plugged in to an old phone charger so it doesn't matter to me.
At least it has a rechargable battery though, the Xbox One still taking regular batteries is a joke imo.


Do you not read?
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AlternativeFAQS
01/23/18 11:36:50 PM
#39:


Gamer99z posted...
At least it has a rechargable battery though, the Xbox One still taking regular batteries is a joke imo.


weird. i havent used a AA battery in my x1 controller in years

must be magic
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Darmik
01/23/18 11:40:15 PM
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I'd take AA batteries over the abysmal DS4 battery life any day.

If the DS4 lasted for more than 6 hours maybe I could see the argument.

Wii U Pro with the 80 hour rechargeable battery was magical stuff. Switch Pro is pretty damn good too.
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Bio1590
01/24/18 12:32:07 AM
#41:


Coffeebeanz posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
If you want longer battery life, put a larger rechargeable battery in your device. I bought a $10 3x capacity battery for my DS4 and never looked back.

Since when could you do that?

And lol, THEN HOW IS THIS A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE XBOX? You just spent similar money on a battery! That's exactly what you're saying is stupid omg


Since, uh, 2014?

Here's a 1.5x capacity for $7.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003LJPT5S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_pRaAAbMPFRQNW

That's a ds3 battery though
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FL81
01/24/18 12:56:56 AM
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Funkydog
01/24/18 1:04:40 AM
#43:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Seriously, why do people keep overlooking this extremely superior option? You can even use them for other applications because they're just AAs

If we bring facts into arguments, how can one side mock the otherside incorrectly and feel smug?

You really need to think things through before you look a fool.
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MarqueeSeries
01/24/18 1:14:36 AM
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Is the Wii U controller battery compatible with the DS4? Cause god damn

Also I agree that the xb1 taking AA batteries is lolworthy
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legendarylemur
01/24/18 1:42:15 AM
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I guess we know where the DS/i batteries went to. The damn controllers lol
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Coffeebeanz
01/24/18 2:27:17 AM
#46:


MarqueeSeries posted...
Is the Wii U controller battery compatible with the DS4? Cause god damn

Also I agree that the xb1 taking AA batteries is lolworthy


Nah man it gives you choices

Sort of like a Volkswagen with bike pedals that can be optionally swapped for an engine.

Yeah, bike pedals can be an archaic hassle but not everyone wants to go to the gas station!
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Bio1590
01/24/18 10:10:40 AM
#47:


Coffeebeanz posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...
Is the Wii U controller battery compatible with the DS4? Cause god damn

Also I agree that the xb1 taking AA batteries is lolworthy


Nah man it gives you choices

Sort of like a Volkswagen with bike pedals that can be optionally swapped for an engine.

Yeah, bike pedals can be an archaic hassle but not everyone wants to go to the gas station!

This is a terrible post and you should be ashamed for making it.
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AlternativeFAQS
01/24/18 10:12:24 AM
#48:


Coffeebeanz posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...
Is the Wii U controller battery compatible with the DS4? Cause god damn

Also I agree that the xb1 taking AA batteries is lolworthy


Nah man it gives you choices

Sort of like a Volkswagen with bike pedals that can be optionally swapped for an engine.

Yeah, bike pedals can be an archaic hassle but not everyone wants to go to the gas station!

It's insane how someone can be this dumb
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Giant_Aspirin
01/24/18 10:13:24 AM
#49:


the flawed design of that 3rd party controller has literally nothing to do with Sony
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Romulox28
01/24/18 10:15:35 AM
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honestly the dualshock 4 is starting to grow on me. i like the sort of symmetry it has to it and the triggers are comfortable without feeling like the focus of the controller (like on the xbox one, where it feels kind of weird to play a game that has LT/RT not being the main buttons you press).
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