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gafemaqs 01/20/18 11:54:37 PM #1:	Vader turned to the dark side to stop Padme from dying. She dies, so presumably Vader doesn't need to know about it anymore. But he doesn't inquire about it to Palpatine later? The whole reason he turned to the dark side and he's not even curious enough to bring it up again? Why is Vader so gullible? <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894469836] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>Vader turned to the dark side to stop Padme from dying. She dies, so presumably Vader doesn't need to know about it anymore. But he doesn't inquire about it to Palpatine later? The whole reason he turned to the dark side and he's not even curious enough to bring it up again? Why is Vader so gullible?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/20/18 11:56:03 PM #2:	Have we seen every interaction the two had over ~25 years? Anyways, after that point he's too far gone anyways. And he does realize shortly after ANH that Sheev played him. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:894469907] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>Have we seen every interaction the two had over ~25 years? Anyways, after that point he's too far gone anyways. And he does realize shortly after ANH that Sheev played him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/21/18 12:01:19 AM #3:	RebelElite791 posted... And he does realize shortly after ANH that Sheev played him. Thus, the subtext of ESB and RotJ were Vader and Palpy each trying to influence Luke into getting rid of the other. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:894470176] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>And he does realize shortly after ANH that Sheev played him.</quote> Thus, the subtext of ESB and RotJ were Vader and Palpy each trying to influence Luke into getting rid of the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 01/21/18 12:06:43 AM #4:	i thought part of the point of the conclusion of ROTS was that he DID master a form of it, keeping himself alive Questionmarktarius posted... Thus, the subtext of ESB and RotJ were Vader and Palpy each trying to influence Luke into getting rid of the other. yep. though this is basically the point of the rule of two. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:894470417] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>i thought part of the point of the conclusion of ROTS was that he DID master a form of it, keeping himself alive <cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Thus, the subtext of ESB and RotJ were Vader and Palpy each trying to influence Luke into getting rid of the other. </quote> yep. though this is basically the point of the rule of two.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 01/21/18 12:07:34 AM #5:	RebelElite791 posted... Have we seen every interaction the two had over ~25 years? No. But when we're talking about the motivations that cause a character to make the biggest change in their life (which affects the whole galaxy) and it's the whole focal point of the relationship between Vader and Palpatine in 3, you'd think there'd be a some sort of a payoff to it. RebelElite791 posted... Anyways, after that point he's too far gone anyways. I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Vader wanted to save Padme but also craved power. Cheating death would have been part of that. In any case, he just seems to drop everything and forget about becoming more powerful after the end of 3. <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894470470] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Have we seen every interaction the two had over ~25 years?</quote> No. But when we're talking about the motivations that cause a character to make the biggest change in their life (which affects the whole galaxy) and it's the whole focal point of the relationship between Vader and Palpatine in 3, you'd think there'd be a some sort of a payoff to it. <cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyways, after that point he's too far gone anyways.</quote> I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Vader wanted to save Padme but also craved power. Cheating death would have been part of that. In any case, he just seems to drop everything and forget about becoming more powerful after the end of 3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/21/18 12:09:46 AM #6:	gafemaqs posted... I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Vader wanted to save Padme but also craved power. Cheating death would have been part of that. In any case, he just seems to drop everything and forget about becoming more powerful after the end of 3. Palpatine does pretty much straight-up tell him that he's a disappointment and not living up to what he expected of him. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:894470572] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Vader wanted to save Padme but also craved power. Cheating death would have been part of that. In any case, he just seems to drop everything and forget about becoming more powerful after the end of 3.</quote> Palpatine does pretty much straight-up tell him that he's a disappointment and not living up to what he expected of him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 01/21/18 12:10:11 AM #7:	Questionmarktarius posted... RebelElite791 posted... And he does realize shortly after ANH that Sheev played him. Thus, the subtext of ESB and RotJ were Vader and Palpy each trying to influence Luke into getting rid of the other. I'm not sure I buy that. It makes sense that Palpatine wants to replace Vader. But Vader doesn't seem to care that much about replacing Palpatine. He even saves him when Luke is about to slash him with his lightsaber. He himself could have pretty simply killed him when he was talking to Luke, if he really wanted. <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894470599] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>And he does realize shortly after ANH that Sheev played him.</quote> Thus, the subtext of ESB and RotJ were Vader and Palpy each trying to influence Luke into getting rid of the other.</quote> I'm not sure I buy that. It makes sense that Palpatine wants to replace Vader. But Vader doesn't seem to care that much about replacing Palpatine. He even saves him when Luke is about to slash him with his lightsaber. He himself could have pretty simply killed him when he was talking to Luke, if he really wanted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 01/21/18 12:12:11 AM #8:	Darkman124 posted... i thought part of the point of the conclusion of ROTS was that he DID master a form of it, keeping himself alive I don't really know for sure but I don't think it works that way. Palpatine's story about Darth Plagueis ends with his death, even despite the fact he could save others. I mean, if that story is to be believed. <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894470672] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>i thought part of the point of the conclusion of ROTS was that he DID master a form of it, keeping himself alive</quote> I don't really know for sure but I don't think it works that way. Palpatine's story about Darth Plagueis ends with his death, even despite the fact he could save others. I mean, if that story is to be believed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 01/21/18 12:14:36 AM #9:	Makes my loins moist when rebel dishes it out star wars style --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:894470810] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>Makes my loins moist when rebel dishes it out star wars style</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/21/18 12:16:30 AM #10:	glitteringfairy posted... Makes my loins moist when rebel dishes it out star wars style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hag_XTaSTU --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:894470910] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>Makes my loins moist when rebel dishes it out star wars style</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hag_XTaSTU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 01/21/18 12:19:06 AM #11:	any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game? --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:894471029] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 01/21/18 12:20:17 AM #12:	gafemaqs posted... Cheating death would have been part of that. Darth Plaguies could save others from death, he could not save himself. He could only use the power to save other people, not himself. And since Vader had no one left to care about it wouldn't really make sense to care about it. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:894471090] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote>Cheating death would have been part of that. </quote> Darth Plaguies could save others from death, he could not save himself. He could only use the power to save other people, not himself. And since Vader had no one left to care about it wouldn't really make sense to care about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stupid Pirate Guy 01/21/18 12:21:30 AM #13:	Because the prequels are shit. --- Guybrush is my homeboy. <cite>Stupid Pirate Guy posted [p:894471142] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>Because the prequels are shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 01/21/18 12:27:21 AM #14:	Stupid Pirate Guy posted... Because the prequels are shit. Took far too long for someone to post this. --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2fg0NcD.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:894471423] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Stupid Pirate Guy posted...</cite> <quote>Because the prequels are shit.</quote> Took far too long for someone to post this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 01/21/18 12:29:39 AM #15:	It was bogus. And anakon was kinda trapped because ~~He was half machine~~ <cite>L0Z posted [p:894471515] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>It was bogus. And anakon was kinda trapped because He was half machine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 01/21/18 12:44:14 AM #16:	CarlGrimes posted... gafemaqs posted... Cheating death would have been part of that. Darth Plaguies could save others from death, he could not save himself. He could only use the power to save other people, not himself. And since Vader had no one left to care about it wouldn't really make sense to care about it. Well doesn't that seem like a power that would be particularly beneficial to an empire <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894472130] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote>Cheating death would have been part of that. </quote> Darth Plaguies could save others from death, he could not save himself. He could only use the power to save other people, not himself. And since Vader had no one left to care about it wouldn't really make sense to care about it.</quote> Well doesn't that seem like a power that would be particularly beneficial to an empire</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 01/21/18 12:58:17 AM #17:	gafemaqs posted... CarlGrimes posted... gafemaqs posted... Cheating death would have been part of that. Darth Plaguies could save others from death, he could not save himself. He could only use the power to save other people, not himself. And since Vader had no one left to care about it wouldn't really make sense to care about it. Well doesn't that seem like a power that would be particularly beneficial to an empire Not to one run by the Sith. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:894472718] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote>Cheating death would have been part of that. </quote> Darth Plaguies could save others from death, he could not save himself. He could only use the power to save other people, not himself. And since Vader had no one left to care about it wouldn't really make sense to care about it.</quote> Well doesn't that seem like a power that would be particularly beneficial to an empire</quote> Not to one run by the Sith.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 01/21/18 1:11:57 AM #18:	He actually figured out how to bring people back to life instead of just saving them. Rey is Shmi reborn. Next up is Padme. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:894473329] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>He actually figured out how to bring people back to life instead of just saving them. Rey is Shmi reborn. Next up is Padme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 01/21/18 1:30:18 AM #19:	They never knew the secret, Palpatine even admitted as much. --- Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:894474115] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>They never knew the secret, Palpatine even admitted as much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDarkCircle 01/21/18 1:34:32 AM #20:	Cookie Bag posted... Stupid Pirate Guy posted... Because the prequels are shit. Took far too long for someone to post this. This. This is the correct answer. I don't spite anyone if they enjoy the PT, but there's no ignoring the fact that so many of the questions rise out of the fact that PT was just making shit up randomly as it went, with no regard for how it fit with the OT <cite>TheDarkCircle posted [p:894474296] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stupid Pirate Guy posted...</cite> <quote>Because the prequels are shit.</quote> Took far too long for someone to post this.</quote> This. This is the correct answer. I don't spite anyone if they enjoy the PT, but there's no ignoring the fact that so many of the questions rise out of the fact that PT was just making shit up randomly as it went, with no regard for how it fit with the OT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanKiller7 01/21/18 3:48:06 AM #21:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWv3uosN9E At about 48 seconds Sidious says if they work together they can discover it. I assume after the years and Vaders ass whooping from Kenobi plus Padmes death, he stops caring about it. --- Collateral Shot! This is too easy.. <cite>DanKiller7 posted [p:894478550] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWv3uosN9E At about 48 seconds Sidious says if they work together they can discover it. I assume after the years and Vaders ass whooping from Kenobi plus Padmes death, he stops caring about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 01/21/18 4:54:06 AM #22:	DanKiller7 posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWv3uosN9E At about 48 seconds Sidious says if they work together they can discover it. I assume after the years and Vaders ass whooping from Kenobi plus Padmes death, he stops caring about it. That right there! I will do anything you say just help me save padme. I cant live without her. He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:894479977] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DanKiller7 posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWv3uosN9E At about 48 seconds Sidious says if they work together they can discover it. I assume after the years and Vaders ass whooping from Kenobi plus Padmes death, he stops caring about it.</quote> That right there! I will do anything you say just help me save padme. I cant live without her. He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/21/18 4:57:51 AM #23:	Darkman124 posted... any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game? Is that the one where scenarios play almost like DnD and you manage your team of rebels between missions? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894480068] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game?</quote> Is that the one where scenarios play almost like DnD and you manage your team of rebels between missions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 01/21/18 6:36:46 AM #24:	@Mistere_Man posted... He didnt crave power If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"? <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894481966] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Mistere_Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power</quote> If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/21/18 6:55:56 AM #25:	gafemaqs posted... @Mistere_Man posted... He didnt crave power If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"? Furthermore, why would he push so hard for a seat on the council if all he wanted was to protect Padme? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894482313] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Mistere_Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power</quote> If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"?</quote> Furthermore, why would he push so hard for a seat on the council if all he wanted was to protect Padme?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 01/21/18 9:23:43 AM #26:	scar the 1 posted... Darkman124 posted... any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game? Is that the one where scenarios play almost like DnD and you manage your team of rebels between missions? no, i think you're thinking of battlestar galactica rebellion is a 2 player game in which one player controls the empire's vast resources and must find and destroy the other player's rebel base before time runs out and the empire collapses meanwhile the rebel player controls small forces that have better mobility and seeks to complete minor objectives that run the clock down faster it's the second best 2P board game out there after twilight struggle --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:894485738] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game?</quote> Is that the one where scenarios play almost like DnD and you manage your team of rebels between missions?</quote> no, i think you're thinking of battlestar galactica rebellion is a 2 player game in which one player controls the empire's vast resources and must find and destroy the other player's rebel base before time runs out and the empire collapses meanwhile the rebel player controls small forces that have better mobility and seeks to complete minor objectives that run the clock down faster it's the second best 2P board game out there after twilight struggle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/21/18 9:42:26 AM #27:	No, I'm definitely thinking of a Star Wars game, and it was quite similar to what you're describing. However I only played one scenario and it's perfectly possible that the people I played with had made their own house rules to allow more people to play etc. And that my memory is spotty --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894486324] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>No, I'm definitely thinking of a Star Wars game, and it was quite similar to what you're describing. However I only played one scenario and it's perfectly possible that the people I played with had made their own house rules to allow more people to play etc. And that my memory is spotty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 01/21/18 9:43:09 AM #28:	idk, but rebellion uses leader placement, zone control, and fleet movement mechanics it's more capable to axis and allies --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:894486348] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>idk, but rebellion uses leader placement, zone control, and fleet movement mechanics it's more capable to axis and allies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/21/18 11:25:52 AM #29:	Darkman124 posted... idk, but rebellion uses leader placement, zone control, and fleet movement mechanics it's more capable to axis and allies I see, then maybe I did play a different one but on the same theme. Maybe Imperial Assault? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894490391] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>idk, but rebellion uses leader placement, zone control, and fleet movement mechanics it's more capable to axis and allies</quote> I see, then maybe I did play a different one but on the same theme. Maybe Imperial Assault?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 01/21/18 11:35:37 AM #30:	scar the 1 posted... gafemaqs posted... @Mistere_Man posted... He didnt crave power If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"? Furthermore, why would he push so hard for a seat on the council if all he wanted was to protect Padme? He wanted a seat on the Council so he could access the archives and figure out if his premonitions were true, and if so, how to prevent Padme's death. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:894490814] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Mistere_Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power</quote> If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"?</quote> Furthermore, why would he push so hard for a seat on the council if all he wanted was to protect Padme?</quote> He wanted a seat on the Council so he could access the archives and figure out if his premonitions were true, and if so, how to prevent Padme's death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/21/18 11:53:12 AM #31:	jumi posted... scar the 1 posted... gafemaqs posted... @Mistere_Man posted... He didnt crave power If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"? Furthermore, why would he push so hard for a seat on the council if all he wanted was to protect Padme? He wanted a seat on the Council so he could access the archives and figure out if his premonitions were true, and if so, how to prevent Padme's death. That's not really communicated in the film, is it? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894491650] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Mistere_Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power</quote> If that's the case, what did he mean when he said "I want more and I know I shouldn't"?</quote> Furthermore, why would he push so hard for a seat on the council if all he wanted was to protect Padme?</quote> He wanted a seat on the Council so he could access the archives and figure out if his premonitions were true, and if so, how to prevent Padme's death.</quote> That's not really communicated in the film, is it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/21/18 12:12:22 PM #32:	Mistere Man posted... He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death. This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:894492642] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mistere Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death.</quote> This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/21/18 2:31:19 PM #33:	ChromaticAngel posted... Mistere Man posted... He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death. This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention. He didn't really have that intention until finding out about Luke, that we've seen --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:894500905] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mistere Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death.</quote> This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention.</quote> He didn't really have that intention until finding out about Luke, that we've seen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 01/21/18 2:43:55 PM #34:	I must admit I am no expert on this subject, but my post was more about why he stopped seeking a way to prevent death. Padme was his reason for wanting that power the power to protect those he cared about like plagious(sp?) could. After pledging himself to sidious for that goal he may have been seduced by the dark side only to snap out of it (so to speak) when padme died. Then again I am no expert so I could be wrong. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:894501640] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>I must admit I am no expert on this subject, but my post was more about why he stopped seeking a way to prevent death. Padme was his reason for wanting that power the power to protect those he cared about like plagious(sp?) could. After pledging himself to sidious for that goal he may have been seduced by the dark side only to snap out of it (so to speak) when padme died. Then again I am no expert so I could be wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 01/21/18 2:52:10 PM #35:	008Zulu posted... They never knew the secret, Palpatine even admitted as much. This. Were you even paying attention? --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:894502175] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>They never knew the secret, Palpatine even admitted as much.</quote> This. Were you even paying attention?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 01/21/18 5:00:56 PM #36:	jumi posted... He wanted a seat on the Council so he could access the archives and figure out if his premonitions were true, and if so, how to prevent Padme's death. ? WalkingLobsters posted... 008Zulu posted... They never knew the secret, Palpatine even admitted as much. This. Were you even paying attention? He says they'll work together to figure it out but Vader doesn't even hold him to his word seemingly. <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:894511106] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>He wanted a seat on the Council so he could access the archives and figure out if his premonitions were true, and if so, how to prevent Padme's death.</quote> ? <cite>WalkingLobsters posted...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>They never knew the secret, Palpatine even admitted as much.</quote> This. Were you even paying attention?</quote> He says they'll work together to figure it out but Vader doesn't even hold him to his word seemingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aristoph 01/21/18 5:09:25 PM #37:	Palpatine knows the secret. Rule #1 of the Sith: they lie. He knows how to save Padme, he just doesn't want to. Also, Palpatine was Plagueis' apprentice, which is where he learned the ability from. Plagueis was capable of keeping himself alive with the force, but when Palpatine went to kill him he got Plagueis drunk first. With Plagueis inebriated, Palpatine was able to surprise and overwhelm him. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules <cite>Aristoph posted [p:894511697] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>Palpatine knows the secret. Rule #1 of the Sith: they lie. He knows how to save Padme, he just doesn't want to. Also, Palpatine was Plagueis' apprentice, which is where he learned the ability from. Plagueis was capable of keeping himself alive with the force, but when Palpatine went to kill him he got Plagueis drunk first. With Plagueis inebriated, Palpatine was able to surprise and overwhelm him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ivory_Man 01/21/18 5:11:18 PM #38:	RebelElite791 posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Mistere Man posted... He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death. This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention. He didn't really have that intention until finding out about Luke, that we've seen He still needed to learn from him in Revenge of the Sith. First time he sees a partner in Luke (because he can't beat the Emperor in a one on one) he immediately tries to influence him and get him to join up. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:894511831] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mistere Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death.</quote> This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention.</quote> He didn't really have that intention until finding out about Luke, that we've seen</quote> He still needed to learn from him in Revenge of the Sith. First time he sees a partner in Luke (because he can't beat the Emperor in a one on one) he immediately tries to influence him and get him to join up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 01/21/18 5:44:51 PM #39:	No way Palpatine could have known he would be betrayed by someone hes been a giant asshat to. He only ordered Anakin to kill his friends and everyone hes ever known back at the Jedi Temple. He also misled Anakin about his wife & unborn childs death. And he also made Anakin and his son fight to the death for his entertainment and chance to be his servant. Whoda thought that would break a man --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:894514542] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>No way Palpatine could have known he would be betrayed by someone hes been a giant asshat to. He only ordered Anakin to kill his friends and everyone hes ever known back at the Jedi Temple. He also misled Anakin about his wife & unborn childs death. And he also made Anakin and his son fight to the death for his entertainment and chance to be his servant. Whoda thought that would break a man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/21/18 5:46:27 PM #40:	I never had the impression Vader hated Palpatine or wanted revenge on him for 2 decades. I don't think he even figured out he was manipulated. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:894514687] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote>I never had the impression Vader hated Palpatine or wanted revenge on him for 2 decades. I don't think he even figured out he was manipulated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/21/18 5:51:47 PM #41:	The_Ivory_Man posted... RebelElite791 posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Mistere Man posted... He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death. This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention. He didn't really have that intention until finding out about Luke, that we've seen He still needed to learn from him in Revenge of the Sith. First time he sees a partner in Luke (because he can't beat the Emperor in a one on one) he immediately tries to influence him and get him to join up. Canonically, he decides to overthrow Sheev once he learns Luke is his son and he was lied to about Padme's child dying --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:894515112] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mistere Man posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt crave power just not to lose his love. Once she was gone he literally had no reason to want to live or drive to cheat death anymore. The only reason he didnt off himself is he may have wanted revenge on palpy for her death.</quote> This. Kind of. I think as his apprentice, he knows that means he'll one day get to kill Sidious off. I think that was always his intention.</quote> He didn't really have that intention until finding out about Luke, that we've seen</quote> He still needed to learn from him in Revenge of the Sith. First time he sees a partner in Luke (because he can't beat the Emperor in a one on one) he immediately tries to influence him and get him to join up.</quote> Canonically, he decides to overthrow Sheev once he learns Luke is his son and he was lied to about Padme's child dying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/21/18 5:54:32 PM #42:	Darmik posted... I never had the impression Vader hated Palpatine or wanted revenge on him for 2 decades. I don't think he even figured out he was manipulated. you're not supposed to. in the new comics, it's clearly stated that Vader had resigned himself to being Palpatine's bitch. once Luke showed up though, he changed his mind and thought about teaching him and taking on the emperor Darkman124 posted... any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game? I got it for christmas. only played it twice, it was fun enough but now i'm struggling to find anyone who'll play it with me have you tried Betrayal at Baldur's Gate? that's been a huge hit with my friends scar the 1 posted... I see, then maybe I did play a different one but on the same theme. Maybe Imperial Assault? are you thinking of edge of the empire? --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894515332] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I never had the impression Vader hated Palpatine or wanted revenge on him for 2 decades. I don't think he even figured out he was manipulated.</quote> you're not supposed to. in the new comics, it's clearly stated that Vader had resigned himself to being Palpatine's bitch. once Luke showed up though, he changed his mind and thought about teaching him and taking on the emperor <cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>any of you nerds play the sw: rebellion board game?</quote> I got it for christmas. only played it twice, it was fun enough but now i'm struggling to find anyone who'll play it with me have you tried Betrayal at Baldur's Gate? that's been a huge hit with my friends <cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>I see, then maybe I did play a different one but on the same theme. Maybe Imperial Assault? </quote> are you thinking of edge of the empire?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/21/18 6:44:44 PM #43:	prince_leo posted... are you thinking of edge of the empire? I dunno. Each scenario had the players assemble the map using some segments, then playing like a simple, table-top version of DnD as some rebel characters are supposed to finish some kind of mission vs a number of imperial characters all controlled by the same player. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894519496] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>are you thinking of edge of the empire?</quote> I dunno. Each scenario had the players assemble the map using some segments, then playing like a simple, table-top version of DnD as some rebel characters are supposed to finish some kind of mission vs a number of imperial characters all controlled by the same player.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 01/22/18 9:06:48 AM #44:	prince_leo posted... I got it for christmas. only played it twice, it was fun enough but now i'm struggling to find anyone who'll play it with me have you tried Betrayal at Baldur's Gate? that's been a huge hit with my friends yes, i played that last week! great game. you'll love rebellion once you have a consistent partner to play with. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:894554663] in Why did Va... [t:76225146]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote> I got it for christmas. only played it twice, it was fun enough but now i'm struggling to find anyone who'll play it with me have you tried Betrayal at Baldur's Gate? that's been a huge hit with my friends </quote> yes, i played that last week! great game. you'll love rebellion once you have a consistent partner to play with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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