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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 11:09:04 AM
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http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx

the approve / disapprove numbers in 2016:

48 / 28

the approve / disapprove numbers in 2017:

30 / 43

#MAGA #winning #takeTHATliberals
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Phantom_Nook
01/18/18 11:10:00 AM
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"Obama embarrassed us in the world."
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Mal_Fet
01/18/18 11:10:38 AM
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The rest of the world loved Obama despite doing way worse things than Trump ever did. They really aren't a good authority on who a good president is.
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ilovu
01/18/18 11:11:44 AM
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the world didn't hate Bush until he invaded Iraq right?

if Trump starts a war his approval ratings in America will be boosted for a year or two but his world approval rating will sink even further
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/18/18 11:13:15 AM
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Redhats don't concern themselves with the opinions of "shit holes".

Again, is a fucking badge of honor to them.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 11:13:33 AM
#7:


Mal_Fet posted...
The rest of the world loved Obama despite doing way worse things than Trump ever did. They really aren't a good authority on who a good president is.


the overwhelming majority of people are stupid and wrong and only an elite few are as woke as the #MAGA crowd
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s0nicfan
01/18/18 11:14:18 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
"fake polls" "said Hillary would win with 99%"

Have we covered the cultists excuses?


To be honest I've seen libs bring up Hillary far more often in topics than conservatives. In many cases, it was situations like this where someone like you preemptively throws an excuse into the mouths of posters.
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ilovu
01/18/18 11:14:38 AM
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but yeah I think geopolitically people are starting to realize the USA can't really be trusted.

people thought gwb was just a one time error.

turns out we might get a legitimate fucking idiot leading the USA every few years.

what's that going to do for the USAs soft power.
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TomNook20
01/18/18 11:14:52 AM
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The rest of the world isn't thrilled about an administration promoting "America first"?

Shocking! Please give us more insight!
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Mal_Fet
01/18/18 11:15:37 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
The rest of the world loved Obama despite doing way worse things than Trump ever did. They really aren't a good authority on who a good president is.


the overwhelming majority of people are stupid and wrong and only an elite few are as woke as the #MAGA crowd

Hey, how many whistleblowers has Trump imprisoned? How many Americans did he illegally spy on?

The only real problem anyone has with Trump is that he says mean things, which is ultimately a dumb thing to complain about.
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s0nicfan
01/18/18 11:16:50 AM
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ilovu posted...
what's that going to do for the USAs soft power.


China has been pushing hard to fill the gap, but given Merkel's shockingly high approval rating, I wouldn't be surprised if Junker and co. pushed hard to make the EU the new center of global power. They've been pushing hard against US tech companies for a while now, and Brexit didn't go as badly for them as it could have, so between those things and the EU pushing for the creation of a "european army" I think you'll start to see things shift that way.

EDIT: What will be interesting is that while the EU will openly claim that they can take care of themselves, in practice that's a much harder thing to make happen, especially when half of their countries are bordering on insolvency. It's a case of them needing the US, but not wanting the US.
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Nomadic View
01/18/18 11:17:21 AM
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He stopped giving me billions of dollars....I hate him!
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ilovu
01/18/18 11:19:28 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
ilovu posted...
what's that going to do for the USAs soft power.


China has been pushing hard to fill the gap, but given Merkel's shockingly high approval rating, I wouldn't be surprised if Junker and co. pushed hard to make the EU the new center of global power. They've been pushing hard against US tech companies for a while now, and Brexit didn't go as badly for them as it could have, so between those things and the EU pushing for the creation of a "european army" I think you'll start to see things shift that way.

yeah Europe with it's median age of like 45 is going to be the new world power.

I think the opposite. the USA will only play with diet fascism in the next few decades.

Europe will go real fascists and it will be up to America to stop Europe from fucking up the world.

again.
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A_Good_Boy
01/18/18 11:20:42 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
To be honest I've seen libs bring up Hillary far more often in topics than conservatives.

Holy shit the lies
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 11:21:02 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
The only real problem anyone has with Trump is that he says mean things,


the only problem is just that? really?

either you're woefully in denial, you're trolling or you really don't pay attention to anything outside of those pro-Trump bubbles.
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KILBOTz
01/18/18 11:21:54 AM
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ilovu posted...
the world didn't hate Bush until he invaded Iraq right?

if Trump starts a war his approval ratings in America will be boosted for a year or two but his world approval rating will sink even further


Poland didn't hate Bush even then!
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s0nicfan
01/18/18 11:22:59 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
s0nicfan posted...
To be honest I've seen libs bring up Hillary far more often in topics than conservatives.

Holy shit the lies


It's true. Not only do you have people like Bullet bringing it up in every topic where it isn't already brought up, but libs LOVE the metaphor. A conservative could be comparing Trump's actions in Syria to Obama's and someone will inevitably reply to their argument with "but hilllary!" It's become the rallying call for ANY comparison from a Trump action to a Dem action.
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UnholyMudcrab
01/18/18 11:23:09 AM
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KILBOTz posted...
ilovu posted...
the world didn't hate Bush until he invaded Iraq right?

if Trump starts a war his approval ratings in America will be boosted for a year or two but his world approval rating will sink even further


Poland didn't hate Bush even then!

Unlike Kerry, Bush didn't forget Poland
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Blue_Inigo
01/18/18 11:23:22 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
The rest of the world loved Obama despite doing way worse things than Trump ever did. They really aren't a good authority on who a good president is.

You defended Nazis running over a person so you really don't have a good authority on this
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ilovu
01/18/18 11:23:32 AM
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ilovu posted...
s0nicfan posted...
ilovu posted...
what's that going to do for the USAs soft power.


China has been pushing hard to fill the gap, but given Merkel's shockingly high approval rating, I wouldn't be surprised if Junker and co. pushed hard to make the EU the new center of global power. They've been pushing hard against US tech companies for a while now, and Brexit didn't go as badly for them as it could have, so between those things and the EU pushing for the creation of a "european army" I think you'll start to see things shift that way.

yeah Europe with it's median age of like 45 is going to be the new world power.

I think the opposite. the USA will only play with diet fascism in the next few decades.

Europe will go real fascists and it will be up to America to stop Europe from fucking up the world.

again.

btw that will be our redemption.

anyone who doubts me should remember how fascist Germany and Italy were just a few decades ago. the US never sunk as low as they did.
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LepartialJury
01/18/18 11:24:07 AM
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No wai
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voldothegr8
01/18/18 11:24:23 AM
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They're just salty Trump won't tour around to kiss ass like Obama did.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 11:24:50 AM
#25:


voldothegr8 posted...
They're just salty Trump won't tour around to kiss ass like Obama did.


Trump literally cancelled a visit to the UK because he was worried they wouldn't like him. his fragile ego can't handle any sort of criticism, so instead of being diplomatic about it and trying to work with them he just bows out like a bitch.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/18/18 11:25:48 AM
#26:


voldothegr8 posted...
They're just salty Trump won't tour around to kiss ass like Obama did.


How did Obama kiss ass again?
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s0nicfan
01/18/18 11:33:32 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
They're just salty Trump won't tour around to kiss ass like Obama did.


How did Obama kiss ass again?


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Mal_Fet
01/18/18 11:46:31 AM
#28:


Blue_Inigo posted...
You defended Nazis running over a person

A_Good_Boy posted...
Holy shit the lies

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
01/18/18 11:47:59 AM
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Not sure how you spin these numbers. Didn't Trump campaign on making America respected around the world again?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/18/18 11:49:20 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Not sure how you spin these numbers. Didn't Trump campaign on making America respected around the world again?


Feared.
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EverDownward
01/18/18 11:51:21 AM
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oh no people don't like us. oh wait, people haven't liked us for years.
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UnholyMudcrab
01/18/18 11:59:02 AM
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Spooking posted...
Obama was failure wrapped in charisma. Everything he did in the public eye was all optics. Think people liked him for his policy (drones, NSA, Patriot Act, ect...)? Come on, he gave you a wink and a smile and had you smiling from ear to ear.

Tell me, what exactly has Trump done to curb those things?

Hang on, you're telling me he's escalated drone strikes? That can't be right.
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J E S U S
01/18/18 12:00:07 PM
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of course the rest of the world doesnt like a america getting stronger and not bowing down before them

im sure pakistan and the UN were much happier getting money from obama
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Mal_Fet
01/18/18 12:09:44 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Hang on, you're telling me he's escalated drone strikes? That can't be right.

How many civilian hospitals has Trump bombed
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 1:21:52 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Not sure how you spin these numbers.


see Mal's post, but it's the typical Trumper response:

- denial of facts
- deflecting to Obama
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 1:22:56 PM
#37:


Mal_Fet posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Hang on, you're telling me he's escalated drone strikes? That can't be right.

How many civilian hospitals has Trump bombed


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/06/us-syria-iraq-isis-islamic-state-strikes-death-toll

Nearly 60% of civilian deaths from the three-year military campaign have been reported this year but human rights groups say true figure is far higher

60% of civilian deaths occurred while Trump was in power, which was only 1/3 of the time

https://www.thenation.com/article/trumps-policy-is-clear-civilian-casualties-dont-matter-in-the-war-on-terror/

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/09/donald-trump-is-dropping-bombs-at-unprecedented-levels/

ps trump has only been PotUS for 1 year, Obama was in charge for eight, so obviously there will be more military casualties / accidents attributed to someone in power for eight times as long
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creativerealms
01/18/18 1:34:25 PM
#38:


TomNook20 posted...
The rest of the world isn't thrilled about an administration promoting "America first"?

Shocking! Please give us more insight!

Well they also claimed they would fix the world's opinion of us. They are doing an amazing job.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 1:43:44 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
They're just salty Trump won't tour around to kiss ass like Obama did.


How did Obama kiss ass again?


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why is showing respect to other world leaders a bad thing


because respect is for pussies! real men walk into the room and do whatever the fuck they want. our leader should be alpha AF!
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pinky0926
01/18/18 1:44:44 PM
#41:


Mal_Fet posted...
The only real problem anyone has with Trump is that he says mean things, which is ultimately a dumb thing to complain about.


lmao, are you for real

What an incredibly dishonest way to paint this argument
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s0nicfan
01/18/18 1:48:46 PM
#42:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
because respect is for pussies! real men walk into the room and do whatever the fuck they want. our leader should be alpha AF!


Respect is one thing. Talking a subservient posture for a global photo-op is another. If they both bowed that'd be fine, but bowing that low is explicitly a sign of subservience in Japanese culture. The lower you go, the more you're saying that the person you're bowing to is above you. Either Obama didn't know any better, or he chose to be lower while interacting with a peer.
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creativerealms
01/18/18 1:52:07 PM
#43:


Donald Trump is the leader of America. His actions matter, his words matter. If he says stupid things it hurts all of us. If he is unprofessional it hurts America, if he is rude, racist, closed minded, pushy it effects us. Some of us would rather have a professional who can control himself represent is. So I would say it's not a dumb thing to complain about.
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Knowledge_King
01/18/18 2:48:13 PM
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So? Do their opinions matter for some reason?
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FrenchCrunch
01/18/18 3:34:05 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Respect is one thing. Talking a subservient posture for a global photo-op is another. If they both bowed that'd be fine, but bowing that low is explicitly a sign of subservience in Japanese culture. The lower you go, the more you're saying that the person you're bowing to is above you. Either Obama didn't know any better, or he chose to be lower while interacting with a peer.

oh my god
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Mr_MacPhisto
01/18/18 3:48:12 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Not sure how you spin these numbers.


see Mal's post, but it's the typical Trumper response:

- denial of facts
- deflecting to Obama

How do you "deflect to Obama" in a topic literally about a direct comparison between Trump and Obama?
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Kim Kusanagi
01/18/18 3:51:58 PM
#49:


ilovu posted...
the world didn't hate Bush until he invaded Iraq right?

if Trump starts a war his approval ratings in America will be boosted for a year or two but his world approval rating will sink even further


Wrong

Nobody liked Dubya from the start
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Giant_Aspirin
01/18/18 4:03:03 PM
#50:


Mr_MacPhisto posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Not sure how you spin these numbers.


see Mal's post, but it's the typical Trumper response:

- denial of facts
- deflecting to Obama

How do you "deflect to Obama" in a topic literally about a direct comparison between Trump and Obama?


the topic is about an "all time low", which is comparing Trump to every other PotUS.

and the deflection was "Trump isn't that bad because Obama was worse"
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