Poll of the Day > White CHRISTIAN Men say they are being DISCRIMINATED in the US Workforce!!!

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Google Wimp, James Damore isn't the only white male in tech who feels he's discriminated against because of his conservative values as a new survey released shows that 13% of white men in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) fields AGREE with him!!

Although responses for the white male demographic were not broken down, the inclusion of anonymous comments from respondents offered a picture into how some feel in the field.

A 49 y/o white man said "It is OK to tell me "you are a blue eyed white heterosexual Christian male, you don't stand a chance and there is nothing you can do about it. I have heard this or variation over and over with 2 different government employers. They are always looking over to hire or promote minorities because they follow their leftist agenda for diversity"

Another man who is 47 said "Today the white male is the enemy. I've seen too many qualified white males passed over for promotons or advancement in favour of a woman and/or minority. Qualifications don't matter these days, rather your gender and race matter. These people don't have what i have and yet they get the promotion over my qualifications"

Another 58 y/o white male engineer says "Reverse discrimination is still present in the workforce today. people with the same skills and experience, but different ethnicities, have different opportunities. A person formally classed as a minority will get preference over a good White Christian Man.
A 55 y/o industrial and medical engineer says "As a white male, nothing is a given now, you have to fight harder to overcome institutional and government reverse discrimination"

And a 52 y/o worker says "White males are an undesirable classification currently in environemts seeking the managed utopia of balace and diversity. White men used to be in demand and now we're being taken over by these people who aren't even from here"

Despite these concerns though, the share of black people working in STEM jobs has only gone up from 7 to 9 per cent and are still under-represented making up 11% of the total US workforce.

Hispanic share of STEM employment went up from 4 to 7 while their share has grown to 16% today in the US workforce.

This survey comes as former Googe employee turned can collector, James Damore was fired over his anti-women rant and Google's diversity program which pits against his conservative views. He has now filed a class action lawsuit against Google claiming white AND asian men are targeted in the name of political correctness.

The concerns by white men was highlighted by Trump in the 2016 election as the majority of them voted for Trump by huge numbers, though it's been that way in every election where they have voted Republican.

Would you agree that white males are generally right-wing than they are left?

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James - Elf

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Haha, beat you to it. ... but only 'cuz Sargon of Akkad already did it
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Most IT/Scientists are left leaning because that's the more rational/evidence-based party. They're idealists who want to improve the system. The Republican party basically backstabs scientists at every step.

Most rich people are Conservative because poor people and taxes piss them off. A lot of poor people are Conservative because they didn't go to school. A lot of old people are Conservative because they were born in a more profitable time and want to try and turn back the clock.

Lokarin posted...

Haha, beat you to it. ... but only 'cuz Sargon of Akkad already did it

What a fucking hypocrite. I don't have to watch his video, and I don't have to hear about it. Let me just guess, he uses this to confirm the "cancer on the left".

That whiny bastard was literally just talking about how women get paid less and make up less of the IT department because they naturally are less inclined to ask for raises or get into technical things. He really makes my blood boil. Thank god I snapped out of that fanbase. Fundamental opinions flipped on a dime to suit the narrative, consistency of jello. His intellectual "poetry" is just that.

AS IF being Conservative would lead to that big a margin! It's not something you wear on your forehead.
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That's nice, dear.
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Lokarin posted...

That's nice, dear.

Rage culture bubbles are not nice. In this case it's a safety hazard.

With all the hot air that comes from Sargon's mouth, there might not be enough oxygen for his millions of followers.
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Yellow posted...

Most IT/Scientists are left leaning because that's the more rational/evidence-based party.

I love this meme.
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Rasmoh posted...

Yellow posted...

Most IT/Scientists are left leaning because that's the more rational/evidence-based party.

I love this meme.

Global warming. Environmental protections. Stem cell research.
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People will not hire you if you're an older white person in IT
much more likely to hire a younger person because the entry level jobs pay paltry wages and they get way more breaks if they hire foriegners
the foreigners also take a pay cut to pay for their lawyer fees to immigrate
but yeah the STEM field is basically open to only so many people and their are 200k gradutes, 60k of which are from other countries, more then enough to fill those roles (and they're more likely to be liberal)
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Yellow posted...

Most IT/Scientists are left leaning because that's the more rational/evidence-based party. They're idealists who want to improve the system. The Republican party basically backstabs scientists at every step.

Most rich people are Conservative because poor people and taxes piss them off. A lot of poor people are Conservative because they didn't go to school. A lot of old people are Conservative because they were born in a more profitable time and want to try and turn back the clock.

Those are some tremendously stupid generalizations which overlook both the more practical explanations and the fact that the trends don't hold up.

Neither party is particularly "rational" or "evidence-based" -- they just have different kinds of problems. In the left's case, it includes a *lot* of naturalistic fallacies (most notably the hatred of GMOs) and ignoring science whenever it conflicts with their values. Even issues like anti-vax -- primarily associated with the right -- are also found in force on the left.

As for STEM fields favoring the left, there are a handful of very obvious reasons for that -- not the least of which is the fact that many of those jobs rely heavily on government funding and, just like a welfare case knows to vote for their next meal, many are going to support the left because that's where their money is going to come from. (Unless, of course, they work in the defense industry, at which point Republicans butter their bread and they lean accordingly.) Then, of course, there are cultural issues where academic settings have entrenched liberal leanings (generally preserved through the hiring and promotion process) and many of the locales already having a staunch left-bias.

And, of course, *both* parties have a large number of followers who didn't go to college. Despite the fact that probably most colleges cultivate left-leaning environs designed to steer ideologies in that direction, the connection between education and politics has *always* been tenuous. Despite the myth perpetuated by leftists, the reality is that roughly equal numbers of voters with only a high school education (or not even that) are on each side -- at roughly 26% each.

The difference tends to be more noticeable at the post-grad level (ie, more liberals, fewer conservatives, fewer fence-sitters). And why's that, you ask? A large segment of post-grads are educators who are generally unionized. Which party supports unions? They tend to be paid by the government. Which party supports bigger government?

And, of course, another piece that you're missing -- and probably because you're a kid -- is that conservatism tends to increase with age. So it's not a matter of "oh, they were born in a more prosperous time!" but instead that yesterday's flower-children are tomorrow's yuppies. Part of that is maturation, but a lot of that is wealth tends to accumulate with age (unless you're a fuck-up) and the more taxes you pay, the more skeptical you tend to be about spending.

Yellow posted...

That whiny bastard was literally just talking about how women get paid less and make up less of the IT department because they naturally are less inclined to ask for raises or get into technical things. He really makes my blood boil.

...and your counterpoint is? Because you're being kinda irrational and unscientific =p
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Zeus posted...

Neither party is particularly "rational" or "evidence-based" -- they just have different kinds of problems. In the left's case, it includes a *lot* of naturalistic fallacies (most notably the hatred of GMOs) and ignoring science whenever it conflicts with their values. Even issues like anti-vax -- primarily associated with the right -- are also found in force on the left.

Honestly, I've never even heard that stereotype before. It was a corporate Democrat policy back in 2006.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/06/do-liberals-oppose-genetically-modified-organisms-more-than-conservatives/

Let's be honest though, even this study is absolute horse-shite. Most Americans do not care what food goes in their mouths or where it's been, even if they don't realize it while answering a survey.

Zeus posted...

And, of course, *both* parties have a large number of followers who didn't go to college. Despite the fact that probably most colleges cultivate left-leaning environs designed to steer ideologies in that direction, the connection between education and politics has *always* been tenuous. Despite the myth perpetuated by leftists, the reality is that roughly equal numbers of voters with only a high school education (or not even that) are on each side -- at roughly 26% each.

http://www.people-press.org/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/4-22-2016_01/
That's an interesting figure, but that's also a probably on your assertion.

Zeus posted...

...and your counterpoint is? Because you're being kinda irrational and unscientific =p

My point here with Sargon wasn't that he was wrong, it was that he'll change his fundamental beliefs as long as it gets people fuming.
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What the hell is reverse discrimination?
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