Current Events > Remember that time Kesha claimed producer raped her to get out of a contract?

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daftpunk_mk5
01/12/18 2:24:26 PM
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LordMarshal
01/12/18 2:25:09 PM
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I sense the dark side in this topic.
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Muffinz0rz
01/12/18 2:26:35 PM
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Did he?
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Perascamin
01/12/18 2:27:53 PM
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I believe Kesha's story that she was abused and mistreated and her thoughts weren't given any serious consideration. She made a whole song about it, and it was pretty passionate
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Zikten
01/12/18 2:28:45 PM
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I never understood why every other woman is believed now. but people still ignore her claims. I always felt she was telling the truth.
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LordMarshal
01/12/18 2:29:15 PM
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Perascamin posted...
I believe Kesha's story that she was abused and mistreated and her thoughts weren't given any serious consideration. She made a whole song about it, and it was pretty passionate


Yeah, sexual assault is a good topic for pop songs. Adds credibility too.
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daftpunk_mk5
01/12/18 2:29:57 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Did he?


She dropped all allegations when the label put up a fight
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Prestoff
01/12/18 2:33:41 PM
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Is that why she doesn't have the $ in her name anymore?
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daftpunk_mk5
01/12/18 2:36:37 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Did he?


She dropped all allegations when the label put up a fight


Timing, enormous amount of secondary gain, and the fact that she dropped allegations when challenged are what make me skeptical.
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s0nicfan
01/12/18 2:36:49 PM
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The problem was ultimately that she was young and stupid, and record labels are predatory against talent. That resulted in her signing some impossibly long contract (something like 12 albums) that would basically span her entire career. She signed her soul to the label, and then was pissed after she got her 15 minutes of fame that she didn't have total control over her career. I would have taken her side if she had simply come out, explained how trapped she was, and tried to bargain her way out in good faith. Taking the nuclear option and trying to fake a scandal, though... after that I'm fine with her never making another album again, and she deserves the end of her career.
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daftpunk_mk5
01/12/18 2:37:13 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Is that why she doesn't have the $ in her name anymore?


Because Google Voice doesn't recognize it
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UnfairRepresent
01/12/18 2:38:48 PM
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Wait people think that if you don't want long drawn out court battles where your rape is brought up and made public news for years on end every day, then that means you must be lying about it?
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TheVipaGTS
01/12/18 2:39:06 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Did he?


She dropped all allegations when the label put up a fight


Timing, enormous amount of secondary gain, and the fact that she dropped allegations when challenged are what make me skeptical.

if you know you have no chance of winning a legal battle (which, against a major record label with millions its difficult), not putting yourself through the financial burden makes sense. she didn't "drop all allegations" she dropped the fight of breaking out of the contract.
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Axiom
01/12/18 2:40:18 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
the fact that she dropped allegations when challenged are what make me skeptical

She didn't drop the allegations. The rape charge was outside the statute of limitations and the court couldn't pursue it

On April 6, 2016, New York Judge Shirley Kornreich dismissed Kesha's claims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and gender violence. "While Kesha's [claim] alleges that she was sexually, physically and verbally abused by Gottwald for a decade, she describes only two specific instances of physical/sexual abuse," Kornreich wrote. And the most recent event described was alleged to have happened in 2008 and so falls outside of the statute of limitations.
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s0nicfan
01/12/18 2:41:57 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Wait people think that if you don't want long drawn out court battles where your rape is brought up and made public news for years on end every day, then that means you must be lying about it?


The producer that she alleged did things to her is one of the biggest in the world, and has worked with dozens of famous artists (if not hundreds in total). As far as I'm aware, not ONE came forward to take her side.
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daftpunk_mk5
01/12/18 2:43:26 PM
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Axiom posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
the fact that she dropped allegations when challenged are what make me skeptical

She didn't drop the allegations. The rape charge was outside the statute of limitations and the court couldn't pursue it

On April 6, 2016, New York Judge Shirley Kornreich dismissed Kesha's claims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and gender violence. "While Kesha's [claim] alleges that she was sexually, physically and verbally abused by Gottwald for a decade, she describes only two specific instances of physical/sexual abuse," Kornreich wrote. And the most recent event described was alleged to have happened in 2008 and so falls outside of the statute of limitations.


See point about timing. Only brings it up after the label stops making records with her and she's trying to find a contract elsewhere.
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UnfairRepresent
01/12/18 2:44:27 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wait people think that if you don't want long drawn out court battles where your rape is brought up and made public news for years on end every day, then that means you must be lying about it?


The producer that she alleged did things to her is one of the biggest in the world, and has worked with dozens of famous artists (if not hundreds in total). As far as I'm aware, not ONE came forward to take her side.

Ok?
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daftpunk_mk5
01/12/18 2:44:35 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wait people think that if you don't want long drawn out court battles where your rape is brought up and made public news for years on end every day, then that means you must be lying about it?


The producer that she alleged did things to her is one of the biggest in the world, and has worked with dozens of famous artists (if not hundreds in total). As far as I'm aware, not ONE came forward to take her side.


Yeah people dont realize how big a deal Dr Luke is. Dude is pretty much the architect of modern pop music.
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eston
01/12/18 2:45:33 PM
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Zikten
01/12/18 3:51:58 PM
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he could easily just rape one person and keep it to that, so that he doesn't spread a rumor about mass rapes. and then everyone takes his side. he gets his jollies and gets to try out rape, and he doesn't lose his reputation cause he knows the world will believe him over his victim
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