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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 4:59:40 PM
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 5:01:11 PM
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Not only does it make no mention of Snyder being booted, but:

The source specifically pointed to the omission of Superman from the Justice Leaguecampaign as a reason why the would-be blockbuster struggled in its opening weekend.

They clearly still have no idea why everyone hates the DCEU
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_Near_
01/11/18 5:02:10 PM
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As long as Snyder is still there, it'll still suck
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prince_leo
01/11/18 5:03:08 PM
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i've always felt that WB execs needed to btfo similar to how disney is more hands-off with marvel and star wars
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Banjo2553
01/11/18 5:03:17 PM
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Hopefully this leads to better movies. Besides Wonder Woman it's pretty much been a shitshow.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:04:06 PM
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_Near_ posted...
As long as Snyder is still there, it'll still suck

None of the upcoming movies are directed by Snyder.
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sylverlolol
01/11/18 5:04:49 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Not only does it make no mention of Snyder being booted, but:

The source specifically pointed to the omission of Superman from the Justice Leaguecampaign as a reason why the would-be blockbuster struggled in its opening weekend.

They clearly still have no idea why everyone hates the DCEU

It clearly says a reason...and they're right on some level. Omitting Supes from the marketing when he's still one of their most popular characters was a silly move and probably lead some people to just make the decision to watch it on dvd/bluray given their favorite character wasn't prominently featured.

But yes, DCEU films have a host of other problems that also need to be addressed.
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CommonStar
01/11/18 5:10:26 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 5:11:38 PM
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The problem they're going to have is that Snyder used like 6 iconic storylines in his butchering of the DCEU, and while there are a lot of stories left to tell, they're going to have a harder time drawing mainstream crowds when they can't use some of their biggest hitting stories.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:14:14 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The problem they're going to have is that Snyder used like 6 iconic storylines in his butchering of the DCEU, and while there are a lot of stories left to tell, they're going to have a harder time drawing mainstream crowds when they can't use some of their biggest hitting stories.

They could just ignore them. The MCU basically totally ignored shit that happened in Incredible Hulk and totally aborted whatever the fuck they were planning with the collector.
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 5:16:01 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
s0nicfan posted...
The problem they're going to have is that Snyder used like 6 iconic storylines in his butchering of the DCEU, and while there are a lot of stories left to tell, they're going to have a harder time drawing mainstream crowds when they can't use some of their biggest hitting stories.

They could just ignore them. The MCU basically totally ignored shit that happened in Incredible Hulk and totally aborted whatever the fuck they were planning with the collector.


While that's true, these are stories you don't WANT to ignore, but tell properly. Stuff like:
the death of superman
the formation of the justice league
batman fighting his old friend superman
batman first meeting superman and learning to trust each other
general zod
lex luthor (which they can still fix using the father/son thing, but still)

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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:17:23 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
While that's true, these are stories you don't WANT to ignore, but tell properly.

Oh I thought you were referring to knightfall and Injustice foreshadowing.
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 5:25:20 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
s0nicfan posted...
While that's true, these are stories you don't WANT to ignore, but tell properly.

Oh I thought you were referring to knightfall and Injustice foreshadowing.


No, if done right those would be awesome stories to tell in the DCEU. I was more lamenting the stories already used up and less the ones that will need slight retconning to tell.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:27:13 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
s0nicfan posted...
While that's true, these are stories you don't WANT to ignore, but tell properly.

Oh I thought you were referring to knightfall and Injustice foreshadowing.


No, if done right those would be awesome stories to tell in the DCEU. I was more lamenting the stories already used up and less the ones that will need slight retconning to tell.


I thought Death of Superman was alright, the biggest problem was they did it too soon. It felt so rushed. I just don't get why people were supposed to feel so attached to Superman at the time.
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 5:28:32 PM
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It was definitely rushed, and not nearly enough time was spent on the world reacting, in part because as you mentioned the world didn't really care yet. It was an end-of-trilogy moment wasted far too soon.
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Zack_Attackv1
01/11/18 5:29:23 PM
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All that matters to me is that they keep the competent Patty Jenkins around to give me more movies about my Amazon Queen.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:30:28 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
All that matters to me is that they keep the competent Patty Jenkins around to give me more movies about my Amazon Queen.

She's already on for WW2 and potentially all future WW movies.
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_Near_
01/11/18 5:32:20 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
_Near_ posted...
As long as Snyder is still there, it'll still suck

None of the upcoming movies are directed by Snyder.


but he's producing them so there's ample opportunity for him to fuck them over
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:33:28 PM
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_Near_ posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
_Near_ posted...
As long as Snyder is still there, it'll still suck

None of the upcoming movies are directed by Snyder.


but he's producing them so there's ample opportunity for him to fuck them over


IIRC he backed off entirely cause his daughters suicide.
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 5:34:55 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
IIRC he backed off entirely cause his daughters suicide.


As far as we know that was just from filming and post-production on Justice League. Given its performance they may choose to keep him on as a producer as a token of good faith, but I don't think his stepping down was ever meant to be permanent.
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_Near_
01/11/18 5:35:32 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...

IIRC he backed off entirely cause his daughters suicide.


That was for Justice League and it happened mid-project. I haven't heard anything about him completely abandoning Aquaman.
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Smashingpmkns
01/11/18 5:38:13 PM
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Too little too late tbh. Reboot the damn thing with competent people involved.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:40:02 PM
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_Near_ posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...

IIRC he backed off entirely cause his daughters suicide.


That was for Justice League and it happened mid-project. I haven't heard anything about him completely abandoning Aquaman.

Wan is doing Aquaman and it's produced by Peter Safran.

As a matter of fact I don't see Snyder on the credits at all indicating he did literally nothing for this movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman_%28film%29
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KazumaKiryu
01/11/18 5:46:13 PM
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It's a shame they felt the need to do this, but it's better than them canning it altogether. I just hope it keeps up the level of quality the universe has had up to this point.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 5:47:57 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
It's a shame they felt the need to do this, but it's better than them canning it altogether. I just hope it keeps up the level of quality the universe has had up to this point.

I disagree. The movies could have been so much better if it weren't for executives trying to force people to play catch up to Marvel.

DC is strong enough to succeed on its own merits without trying to compete directly with the MCU.
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_Near_
01/11/18 5:55:48 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
_Near_ posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...

IIRC he backed off entirely cause his daughters suicide.


That was for Justice League and it happened mid-project. I haven't heard anything about him completely abandoning Aquaman.

Wan is doing Aquaman and it's produced by Peter Safran.

As a matter of fact I don't see Snyder on the credits at all indicating he did literally nothing for this movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman_%28film%29


Executive producer

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0811583/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Snyder#Films
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Sada_Pop
01/11/18 6:00:20 PM
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Well glad that they're taking corrective measures. Bout damn time.
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Darmik
01/11/18 6:03:17 PM
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The most awkward thing for them is that they basically need to ignore BvS for them to salvage the universe. They're stuck with an old killer Batman and a sad sap of a Superman. Which is unfortunate since Batman and Superman are the tentpoles.

They tried to do this in Justice League and it was pretty awkward.
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ChromaticAngel
01/11/18 6:05:11 PM
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Darmik posted...
The most awkward thing for them is that they basically need to ignore BvS for them to salvage the universe. They're stuck with an old killer Batman and a sad sap of a Superman. Which is unfortunate since Batman and Superman are the tentpoles.

They tried to do this in Justice League and it was pretty awkward.


Snyder: "Have you thought about what I said? About the ring?"
Whedon: "You smell nice." "YOU MEAN I DIDN'T BEFORE HUR HUR HUR I AM COMEDIC GENIUS"
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s0nicfan
01/11/18 6:07:23 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Darmik posted...
The most awkward thing for them is that they basically need to ignore BvS for them to salvage the universe. They're stuck with an old killer Batman and a sad sap of a Superman. Which is unfortunate since Batman and Superman are the tentpoles.

They tried to do this in Justice League and it was pretty awkward.


Snyder: "Have you thought about what I said? About the ring?"
Whedon: "You smell nice." "YOU MEAN I DIDN'T BEFORE HUR HUR HUR I AM COMEDIC GENIUS"


Also Snyder: "I really want to hammer home that Batman is a kind of savior figure. How about I have him literally ascend while in a crucifix stance into the light while surrounded by bats? That's deep, right? What's that? It's dumb?... just make it a dream sequence. YES I know I already have too many, but I just can't quit them!"
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_Near_
01/11/18 9:11:50 PM
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Snyder's problem is that the motherfucker can't make a movie under 3 fucking hours, so the theatrical edits are always choppy messes.

Also someone needs to hide the slow-mo button from him.
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Knowledge_King
01/11/18 11:35:56 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Zack_Attackv1 posted...
All that matters to me is that they keep the competent Patty Jenkins around to give me more movies about my Amazon Queen.

She's already on for WW2 and potentially all future WW movies.


Damn, that's too bad.
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dave_is_slick
01/11/18 11:41:39 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Zack_Attackv1 posted...
All that matters to me is that they keep the competent Patty Jenkins around to give me more movies about my Amazon Queen.

She's already on for WW2 and potentially all future WW movies.


Damn, that's too bad.

Why?
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