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Mal_Fet 01/11/18 3:44:58 PM #1: |
https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/chenchen-zhang/curious-rise-of-white-left-as-chinese-internet-insult
https://cdn.opendemocracy.net/files/imagecache/article_xlarge/wysiwyg_imageupload/549501/140068806_b8cac11154_z.jpg So what does white left mean in the Chinese context, and whats behind the rise of its (negative) popularity? It might not be an easy task to define the term, for as a social media buzzword and very often an instrument for ad hominem attack, it could mean different things for different people. A thread on why well-educated elites in the west are seen as nave white left in China on Zhihu, a question-and-answer website said to have a high percentage of active users who are professionals and intellectuals, might serve as a starting point. Wow. I know how easy it is to think of the Chinese as being somehow apart from our politics, but it's amazing how apt their understanding of leftism is --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 01/11/18 3:46:08 PM #2: |
China massacred thousands of their own protestors and sent the bill for the bullets to their family members.
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mario2000 01/11/18 3:50:19 PM #3: |
immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world?
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EverDownward 01/11/18 3:51:59 PM #5: |
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China massacred thousands of their own protestors and sent the bill for the bullets to their family members. You sound upset, baizuo --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/11/18 3:52:10 PM #6: |
mario2000 posted...
immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? I think the issue is things like justice, defense and economy are mroe important or at least equally. Gay marriage and transgenders in your bathroom won't mean much if you're being bombed and there is no money --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForestLogic 01/11/18 3:52:45 PM #7: |
I'm not a big fan of China as a nation but damn that's apt.
It's a good word too since cuck was adopted by alt-right shitbags so moderates need a new derogatory term for the left. --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrBobGray 01/11/18 3:52:51 PM #8: |
Like I give a fuck what the Chinese think about western government.
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mario2000 01/11/18 3:53:01 PM #9: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? are we being bombed right now? are we lacking in money? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 01/11/18 3:54:36 PM #10: |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDemocracy
It has been funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundations among other organisations including the Ford Foundation and Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust.[1] uh oh! you suuuuuuuure about this source, tc? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 01/11/18 3:55:17 PM #11: |
What a bunch of racist assholes
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Endofall 01/11/18 3:55:48 PM #12: |
mario2000 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? tbh, to the Chinese you certainly are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/11/18 3:55:52 PM #13: |
mario2000 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? No but the people ensuring that tend to be the ones least receptive to social justice. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 01/11/18 3:56:11 PM #14: |
Soooo they saw some SJWs online and came up with their own word for SJW?
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mario2000 01/11/18 3:58:45 PM #15: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
mario2000 posted...UnfairRepresent posted...mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? don't the people who defend us from being bombed do it so we CAN focus on issues like gay marriage and gender equality? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 01/11/18 3:58:49 PM #16: |
Mal_Fet posted...
https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/chenchen-zhang/curious-rise-of-white-left-as-chinese-internet-insult Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. This is quite the starteling development. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MB2012 01/11/18 3:59:07 PM #17: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? Ah yes so ignoring them and pretending they don't exist is obviously the only thing we can do --- Yeet i.redd.it/1ewnrrutys001.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 01/11/18 3:59:51 PM #18: |
New?
(bai) literally means white, and (zu) literally means left. --- You have the right to remain silent, anything you post will be misquoted, then used against you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/11/18 4:04:39 PM #20: |
MB2012 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? No one ever said or implied that --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrBobGray 01/11/18 4:05:25 PM #21: |
Goats posted...
Why do you keep making this topic? Why are you avoiding the issue? --- Do you have Prince Albert in a can? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 01/11/18 4:06:38 PM #22: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/chenchen-zhang/curious-rise-of-white-left-as-chinese-internet-insult he has no strong convictions other than "leftists are the worst". his entire political identity revolves around figuring out what "the left" is about and then doing/supporting the exact opposite or just something that makes it look bad. --- Playing: Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/11/18 4:11:34 PM #23: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? Your correct and the left do care about those things as well. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/11/18 4:12:41 PM #25: |
mario2000 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDemocracyIt has been funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundations among other organisations including the Ford Foundation and Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust.[1] When talking about leftism? Yes. You can't abuse them of being harsh to leftism now, can you? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/11/18 4:13:39 PM #26: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. China isn't communist. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/11/18 4:15:06 PM #27: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. Wow you want no one to take you serous anymore huh? --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/11/18 4:16:40 PM #28: |
creativerealms posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Zeeak4444 posted...Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. China'economy is highly capitalist. Only way you can argue otherwise is if you didn't know what communism is. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FightingGames 01/11/18 4:16:55 PM #29: |
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Capn Circus 01/11/18 4:22:43 PM #30: |
Like Trump always said---they're laughing at us.
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hockeybub89 01/11/18 4:26:50 PM #31: |
Mal_Fet posted...
creativerealms posted...Mal_Fet posted...Zeeak4444 posted...Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. That might be true, but he should probably hear it from someone besides the guy who thinks Nazis were leftists. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ulyanyx 01/11/18 4:29:46 PM #32: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
China massacred thousands of their own protestors and sent the bill for the bullets to their family members. I guess when they dissect your political beliefs you do need to deflect and ignore the statement said. --- Sober from Alcohol since August 4th 2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/11/18 4:40:46 PM #33: |
hockeybub89 posted...
That might be true, but he should probably hear it from someone besides the guy who thinks Nazis were leftists. Because they were Btw I find it highly amusing how you scoff at the Nazis calling themselves socialists as evidence they're socialist but you insist that the Chinese are communist just because they call themselves communist. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 01/11/18 4:43:01 PM #34: |
Mal_Fet posted...
mario2000 posted...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDemocracyIt has been funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundations among other organisations including the Ford Foundation and Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust.[1] look at this deep state leftist soros fan --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 01/11/18 4:44:37 PM #35: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...creativerealms posted...Mal_Fet posted...Zeeak4444 posted...Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. But Mal is the king of Dogma. Actually, he might be second on this board. Idk, its close. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 01/11/18 4:45:01 PM #36: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...That might be true, but he should probably hear it from someone besides the guy who thinks Nazis were leftists. Point to where I said that about China. As far as I can see, It's up up in the air what China exactly is. Meanwhile, basically every historian and political analysts seems to agree that the Nazis were right wing. "But socialist is in their name and what is better proof than self-labels?" Yeah, that's why you believe people who call themselves otherkin and view North Korea and the Congo as free democracies. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA 01/11/18 4:45:13 PM #37: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
China massacred thousands of their own protestors and sent the bill for the bullets to their family members. Dang it got serious real quick... --- Kill anyone who gets in the way... Actually nevermind that... JUST KILL EVERYONE! - Kyojiro Kagenuma - WoTS 2 PSN:kingmalak ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NadYobWoc 01/11/18 4:51:04 PM #38: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...That might be true, but he should probably hear it from someone besides the guy who thinks Nazis were leftists. Your own logic works against you here... --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yoloyoloswagEMP 01/11/18 4:52:29 PM #39: |
It's most commonly used to bash celebrities when they get preachy about LBGT and equality type issues.
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Lorenzo_2003 01/11/18 4:58:54 PM #40: |
Interesting word. I suppose it's not surprising. In general, I don't think we could characterize mainland China as left-leaning or even sympathetic to left-leaning causes.
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yoloyoloswagEMP 01/11/18 5:00:42 PM #41: |
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Interesting word. I suppose it's not surprising. In general, I don't think we could characterize mainland China as left-leaning or even sympathetic to left-leaning causes. It's really hard for mainlanders to give a shit when the majority of their NGOs and charities have proven time and time again to be scam artists / corrupt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/11/18 5:06:43 PM #42: |
mario2000 posted...
immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? Compared to mass famine and human rights violations, wanting to open borders, give minorities free stuff, arguments over bathrooms and pronouns, and carbon credits and collecting cow farts aren't real problems. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 01/11/18 5:09:41 PM #43: |
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment aren't real problems in the real world? so muslims "taking over europe" isn't anything to worry about after all? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsYourFault 01/11/18 5:10:33 PM #44: |
Damn. Mal so hard up hes shilling the commies
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UnholyMudcrab 01/11/18 5:11:34 PM #45: |
Why do people still take Mal's bait
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Mal_Fet 01/11/18 5:13:25 PM #46: |
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...That might be true, but he should probably hear it from someone besides the guy who thinks Nazis were leftists. Nope. Now pay attention: The Nazis' actions are what makes them leftist, not their name. Seizing the means of production, wage controls, price controls, heavy business regulation, all hallmarks of big-government leftist politics. Similarly, the Chinese econonic policies are what makes them capitalist regardless of what they call themselves. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 01/11/18 5:17:17 PM #47: |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ntsi.zm, nt-/),[1] is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party in Nazi Germany and of other far-right groups. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 01/11/18 5:18:43 PM #48: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
China massacred thousands of their own protestors and sent the bill for the bullets to their family members. Seriously?! Trolling reached an unsurpassable height that day. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 01/11/18 5:20:41 PM #49: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Similarly, the Chinese econonic policies are what makes them capitalist regardless of what they call themselves. Large Chinese corporations are required to have a government employee on the board of directors. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FigureOfSpeech 01/11/18 5:22:16 PM #50: |
Mal_Fet posted...
creativerealms posted...Mal_Fet posted...Zeeak4444 posted...Wasn't aware you sided with communist when it came to perceiving people. I know that you can only get a communist if you catch a wild socialist and level it up until it evolves into a communist. I just don't remember the exact level which must be reached. The only socialist I bothered to catch is sitting in a PC box somewhere. I think it was level 11 when I caught it, but I can't remember. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yoloyoloswagEMP 01/11/18 5:23:12 PM #51: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Similarly, the Chinese econonic policies are what makes them capitalist regardless of what they call themselves. It isn't even necessarily huge corporations either. I've had friends who had startups that were just starting to take off and they had to cooperate with the government. Hell, there's a tracking code you have to put on your website just to have hosting in China. Every Chinese website is registered to the government. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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