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MrBobGray 01/10/18 4:13:59 PM #1:	Its just silly at this point. --- Do you have Prince Albert in a can? <cite>MrBobGray posted [p:893784658] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Its just silly at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/10/18 4:14:24 PM #2:	Yeah he deserves a main enemy KO tbh --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:893784673] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Yeah he deserves a main enemy KO tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 01/10/18 4:14:51 PM #3:	@Veggeta_MAX --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:893784694] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>@Veggeta_MAX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 01/10/18 4:15:29 PM #4:	itd be nice if goku became evil in his pursuit to become stronger and vegeta has to kill him --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:893784723] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>itd be nice if goku became evil in his pursuit to become stronger and vegeta has to kill him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:17:33 PM #5:	BlackHorse6969 posted... itd be nice if goku became evil in his pursuit to become stronger and vegeta has to kill him If Dragonball Heroes is to be believed, when Goku and Vegeta realize they're close to death they decide to settle the score. They leave Earth to fight and are never heard from again. So in a way it's kinda possible they killed each other. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893784838] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackHorse6969 posted...</cite> <quote>itd be nice if goku became evil in his pursuit to become stronger and vegeta has to kill him</quote> If Dragonball Heroes is to be believed, when Goku and Vegeta realize they're close to death they decide to settle the score. They leave Earth to fight and are never heard from again. So in a way it's kinda possible they killed each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:18:04 PM #6:	Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893784872] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
V-E-G-Y- 01/10/18 4:18:14 PM #7:	So true, I'm sure dey'll cuck vegeta so hard in da next few super episodes --- http://i.imgur.com/L6MQGtI.gif http://i.imgur.com/HAj1Ocp.gif http://i.imgur.com/Op6gMTg.gif http://i.imgur.com/hNkY6mv.gif <cite>V-E-G-Y- posted [p:893784884] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>So true, I'm sure dey'll cuck vegeta so hard in da next few super episodes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/10/18 4:18:36 PM #8:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad. ...the show isn't called "Goku" though --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:893784904] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad.</quote> ...the show isn't called "Goku" though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:19:24 PM #9:	Muffinz0rz posted... Veggeta_MAX posted... Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad. ...the show isn't called "Goku" though But Goku is the main character and it revolves around him as it should. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893784951] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad.</quote> ...the show isn't called "Goku" though</quote> But Goku is the main character and it revolves around him as it should.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:20:28 PM #10:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad. But the show isn't called "Goku". Besides, there are plenty of series where the MC isn't the strongest. In Katekyo Hitman Reborn Tsuna isn't the strongest. Kenshin isn't the strongest in RuroKen either. Naruto just went overkill because Kishimoto has a hardon for his husbando. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893785002] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Ya know I use to think this way back in the old days until Naruto came out and they made Sasuke equal or better than Naruto in a show about and called "Naruto". I really hate that they gave so much fucking attention to Sasuke. Imagine Vegeta always being equal or better than Goku, it would be bad.</quote> But the show isn't called "Goku". Besides, there are plenty of series where the MC isn't the strongest. In Katekyo Hitman Reborn Tsuna isn't the strongest. Kenshin isn't the strongest in RuroKen either. Naruto just went overkill because Kishimoto has a hardon for his husbando.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:24:07 PM #11:	Goku isn't even the strongest right now. Jiren and the GoDs are probably stronger than Goku. The point is the main character should never be secondary like how Naruto was. It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort. I remember when Shonen had an official Naruto popularity contest and Sasuke was voted number one and not Naruto. Vegeta gets his moments and that's good enough for me. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785179] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Goku isn't even the strongest right now. Jiren and the GoDs are probably stronger than Goku. The point is the main character should never be secondary like how Naruto was. It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort. I remember when Shonen had an official Naruto popularity contest and Sasuke was voted number one and not Naruto. Vegeta gets his moments and that's good enough for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
V-E-G-Y- 01/10/18 4:24:55 PM #12:	Gohan was at one point and dat was badass as fuck --- http://i.imgur.com/L6MQGtI.gif http://i.imgur.com/HAj1Ocp.gif http://i.imgur.com/Op6gMTg.gif http://i.imgur.com/hNkY6mv.gif <cite>V-E-G-Y- posted [p:893785225] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Gohan was at one point and dat was badass as fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/10/18 4:25:34 PM #13:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Goku isn't even the strongest right now. Jiren and the GoDs are probably stronger than Goku. The point is the main character should never be secondary like how Naruto was. It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort. I remember when Shonen had an official Naruto popularity contest and Sasuke was voted number one and not Naruto. Vegeta gets his moments and that's good enough for me. Ron literally did ~~kill Voldemort~~ though So did Neville --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:893785275] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Goku isn't even the strongest right now. Jiren and the GoDs are probably stronger than Goku. The point is the main character should never be secondary like how Naruto was. It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort. I remember when Shonen had an official Naruto popularity contest and Sasuke was voted number one and not Naruto. Vegeta gets his moments and that's good enough for me.</quote> Ron literally did kill Voldemort though So did Neville</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:26:53 PM #14:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Goku isn't even the strongest right now. Jiren and the GoDs are probably stronger than Goku. The point is the main character should never be secondary like how Naruto was. It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort. I remember when Shonen had an official Naruto popularity contest and Sasuke was voted number one and not Naruto. Vegeta gets his moments and that's good enough for me. None of those characters are part of the main cast. When I mentioned those two series I was considering the main cast. Tsuna wasn't the strongest out of his group, Hibari was. Kenshin is stated to be roughly equal to Saito. It's possible to not have the MC be the strongest and still let him have the spotlight and not make everyone else into a joke like Dragonball does. Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893785345] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Goku isn't even the strongest right now. Jiren and the GoDs are probably stronger than Goku. The point is the main character should never be secondary like how Naruto was. It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort. I remember when Shonen had an official Naruto popularity contest and Sasuke was voted number one and not Naruto. Vegeta gets his moments and that's good enough for me.</quote> None of those characters are part of the main cast. When I mentioned those two series I was considering the main cast. Tsuna wasn't the strongest out of his group, Hibari was. Kenshin is stated to be roughly equal to Saito. It's possible to not have the MC be the strongest and still let him have the spotlight and not make everyone else into a joke like Dragonball does. Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:27:09 PM #15:	The point is they fucked up Naruto by ~~making Sasuke the center of the show~~ and ~~it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well~~. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785363] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>The point is they fucked up Naruto by making Sasuke the center of the show and it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:27:43 PM #16:	Naruto was never second string. Sasuke surpassed him to encourage him to work harder to his goal. That is a more believable story than just always being the best and no one can ever truly top you like Goku. People who are the best at something often have been beaten by rivals that make them have to work harder to retain being the best. Just look at The Rock. He wasn't born with the WWE heavyweight title. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893785387] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Naruto was never second string. Sasuke surpassed him to encourage him to work harder to his goal. That is a more believable story than just always being the best and no one can ever truly top you like Goku. People who are the best at something often have been beaten by rivals that make them have to work harder to retain being the best. Just look at The Rock. He wasn't born with the WWE heavyweight title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 01/10/18 4:27:54 PM #17:	Doesn't even seem like Vegeta is just gonna fodder though. He and Goku are gonna take down Jiren together --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo Click here to unlock the meaning of life! <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:893785396] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't even seem like Vegeta is just gonna fodder though. He and Goku are gonna take down Jiren together</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:28:10 PM #18:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus. Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785412] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus.</quote> Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:28:50 PM #19:	Veggeta_MAX posted... The point is they fucked up Naruto by ~~making Sasuke the center of the show~~ and ~~it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well~~. And the reason that is is because Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character. That's why Naruto seemed like he didn't matter for so much of part 2. You're using the the worst example possible. Veggeta_MAX posted... Holy_Cloud105 posted... Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus. Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time. AT has stated he doesn't like Vegeta though. So that'll never happen. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893785452] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>The point is they fucked up Naruto by making Sasuke the center of the show and it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well.</quote> And the reason that is is because Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character. That's why Naruto seemed like he didn't matter for so much of part 2. You're using the the worst example possible. <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus.</quote> Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time.</quote> AT has stated he doesn't like Vegeta though. So that'll never happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:30:02 PM #20:	darkphoenix181 posted... Naruto was never second string. Disagree. The show revolved way more around Sasuke than Naruto. Thank GOD the new series is more revolved around Boruto than Sarada although that Sarada Arc was fucking stupid as shit. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785512] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Naruto was never second string.</quote> Disagree. The show revolved way more around Sasuke than Naruto. Thank GOD the new series is more revolved around Boruto than Sarada although that Sarada Arc was fucking stupid as shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:31:16 PM #21:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... Veggeta_MAX posted... The point is they fucked up Naruto by ~~making Sasuke the center of the show~~ and ~~it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well~~. And the reason that is is because Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character. That's why Naruto seemed like he didn't matter for so much of part 2. You're using the the worst example possible. Veggeta_MAX posted... Holy_Cloud105 posted... Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus. Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time. AT has stated he doesn't like Vegeta though. So that'll never happen. Saying the creator likes this or that character more doesn't negate my point at all. What are you trying to argue here? That Vegeta shouldn't be second string? Because this is the main discussion. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785586] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>The point is they fucked up Naruto by making Sasuke the center of the show and it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well.</quote> And the reason that is is because Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character. That's why Naruto seemed like he didn't matter for so much of part 2. You're using the the worst example possible. <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus.</quote> Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time.</quote> AT has stated he doesn't like Vegeta though. So that'll never happen.</quote> Saying the creator likes this or that character more doesn't negate my point at all. What are you trying to argue here? That Vegeta shouldn't be second string? Because this is the main discussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 01/10/18 4:31:33 PM #22:	it's not like vegeta should be better all the time, but some times might make it better the inherent problem her is that they're both saiyans and they have the same power ups. goku gets it first, then vegeta. it gets old pretty quick. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:893785607] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>it's not like vegeta should be better all the time, but some times might make it better the inherent problem her is that they're both saiyans and they have the same power ups. goku gets it first, then vegeta. it gets old pretty quick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 01/10/18 4:32:21 PM #23:	V-E-G-Y- posted... Gohan was at one point and dat was badass as fuck peak dbz --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:893785661] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>V-E-G-Y- posted...</cite> <quote>Gohan was at one point and dat was badass as fuck</quote> peak dbz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:32:46 PM #24:	_Near_ posted... it's not like vegeta should be better all the time, but some times might make it better the inherent problem her is that they're both saiyans and they have the same power ups. goku gets it first, then vegeta. it gets old pretty quick. Vegeta gets his time to shine but yeah that's basically Goku and Vegeta's story and I'm fine with that because I'd hate it end up like Naruto and Sasuke. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785678] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote>it's not like vegeta should be better all the time, but some times might make it better the inherent problem her is that they're both saiyans and they have the same power ups. goku gets it first, then vegeta. it gets old pretty quick.</quote> Vegeta gets his time to shine but yeah that's basically Goku and Vegeta's story and I'm fine with that because I'd hate it end up like Naruto and Sasuke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:34:03 PM #25:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Holy_Cloud105 posted... Veggeta_MAX posted... The point is they fucked up Naruto by ~~making Sasuke the center of the show~~ and ~~it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well~~. And the reason that is is because Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character. That's why Naruto seemed like he didn't matter for so much of part 2. You're using the the worst example possible. Veggeta_MAX posted... Holy_Cloud105 posted... Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus. Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time. AT has stated he doesn't like Vegeta though. So that'll never happen. Saying the creator likes this or that character more doesn't negate my point at all. What are you trying to argue here? That Vegeta shouldn't be second string? Because this is the main discussion. What I'm trying to argue is that it's completely possible to make Vegeta stronger than Goku and give him moments to shine instead of making him look like a joke 24/7 and without making Goku be irrelevant like Sasuke did to Naruto. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893785734] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>The point is they fucked up Naruto by making Sasuke the center of the show and it would be awful to make Vegeta the center of the show for Dragon Ball as well.</quote> And the reason that is is because Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character. That's why Naruto seemed like he didn't matter for so much of part 2. You're using the the worst example possible. <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, Sasuke was Kishimoto's favorite character and he made sure Sasuke was almost always better and had more focus.</quote> Which is fucking stupid now imagine this happening to Dragon Ball where AT was fucking lust loving over Vegeta 100% of the time.</quote> AT has stated he doesn't like Vegeta though. So that'll never happen.</quote> Saying the creator likes this or that character more doesn't negate my point at all. What are you trying to argue here? That Vegeta shouldn't be second string? Because this is the main discussion.</quote> What I'm trying to argue is that it's completely possible to make Vegeta stronger than Goku and give him moments to shine instead of making him look like a joke 24/7 and without making Goku be irrelevant like Sasuke did to Naruto.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:35:16 PM #26:	Vegeta gets plenty of time to shine IMO as secondary. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893785803] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Vegeta gets plenty of time to shine IMO as secondary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 01/10/18 4:35:41 PM #27:	super spoilers --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:893785827] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>super spoilers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:41:31 PM #28:	Veggeta_MAX posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Naruto was never second string. Disagree. The show revolved way more around Sasuke than Naruto. Thank GOD the new series is more revolved around Boruto than Sarada although that Sarada Arc was fucking stupid as shit. Except that is false. The show focused on Naruto's growth more than Sasuke's excellence. Sasuke's excellence was a plot device to push Naruto into a worth Hokage candidate. Because a kid just happening to stumple into the role of Hokage because ~~his dad was Hokage~~ is a stupid story. Instead it showcases Naruto's sense of inferiority to his peers and his continual striving to better himself. You might have been blinded by Sasuke's excellence, but that is in on you for thinking all there is to an anime is how op a character is. Central to the plot became not just the sharingan but the tailed beasts as they were the overall goal and vehicle for the main villian's plan. Guess who had the most important tailed beast from the start of the whole show? Naruto. Him being able to grow, defend himself and fight back was more important to victory than anything Sasuke had done. Which is the whole point of the show from beginning to end. Him having the tailed beast was not enough. Other users of the beasts were fodder to akasutski. He needed to grow as he did. Like the whole revenge on Itachi was a sub-plot that had ~~hardly an impact on the main plotline to battle Madara and his family line.~~ That just served to put Sasuke into a supporting role in the end because to support Naruto at the end you needed to be at a certain level. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893786126] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Naruto was never second string.</quote> Disagree. The show revolved way more around Sasuke than Naruto. Thank GOD the new series is more revolved around Boruto than Sarada although that Sarada Arc was fucking stupid as shit.</quote> Except that is false. The show focused on Naruto's growth more than Sasuke's excellence. Sasuke's excellence was a plot device to push Naruto into a worth Hokage candidate. Because a kid just happening to stumple into the role of Hokage because his dad was Hokage is a stupid story. Instead it showcases Naruto's sense of inferiority to his peers and his continual striving to better himself. You might have been blinded by Sasuke's excellence, but that is in on you for thinking all there is to an anime is how op a character is. Central to the plot became not just the sharingan but the tailed beasts as they were the overall goal and vehicle for the main villian's plan. Guess who had the most important tailed beast from the start of the whole show? Naruto. Him being able to grow, defend himself and fight back was more important to victory than anything Sasuke had done. Which is the whole point of the show from beginning to end. Him having the tailed beast was not enough. Other users of the beasts were fodder to akasutski. He needed to grow as he did. Like the whole revenge on Itachi was a sub-plot that had hardly an impact on the main plotline to battle Madara and his family line. That just served to put Sasuke into a supporting role in the end because to support Naruto at the end you needed to be at a certain level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 01/10/18 4:45:39 PM #29:	hortanz posted... super spoilers lmao --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:893786371] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>hortanz posted...</cite> <quote>super spoilers </quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:45:45 PM #30:	Like lets take one of the first arcs of Naruto. Who is more important? Sasuke or Naruto? Orochimaru infiltrates wind village and plots assassination of Hokage. He succeeds. Gaara turns into a tailed beast and reeks havok. Naruto saved the day here and turned Gaara into a good guy. Wtf did Sasuke even do in this arc? I can't even remember. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893786378] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Like lets take one of the first arcs of Naruto. Who is more important? Sasuke or Naruto? Orochimaru infiltrates wind village and plots assassination of Hokage. He succeeds. Gaara turns into a tailed beast and reeks havok. Naruto saved the day here and turned Gaara into a good guy. Wtf did Sasuke even do in this arc? I can't even remember.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:47:27 PM #31:	darkphoenix181 posted... Veggeta_MAX posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Naruto was never second string. Disagree. The show revolved way more around Sasuke than Naruto. Thank GOD the new series is more revolved around Boruto than Sarada although that Sarada Arc was fucking stupid as shit. Except that is false. The show focused on Naruto's growth more than Sasuke's excellence. Sasuke's excellence was a plot device to push Naruto into a worth Hokage candidate. Because a kid just happening to stumple into the role of Hokage because ~~his dad was Hokage~~ is a stupid story. Instead it showcases Naruto's sense of inferiority to his peers and his continual striving to better himself. You might have been blinded by Sasuke's excellence, but that is in on you for thinking all there is to an anime is how op a character is. Central to the plot became not just the sharingan but the tailed beasts as they were the overall goal and vehicle for the main villian's plan. Guess who had the most important tailed beast from the start of the whole show? Naruto. Him being able to grow, defend himself and fight back was more important to victory than anything Sasuke had done. Which is the whole point of the show from beginning to end. Him having the tailed beast was not enough. Other users of the beasts were fodder to akasutski. He needed to grow as he did. Like the whole revenge on Itachi was a sub-plot that had ~~hardly an impact on the main plotline to battle Madara and his family line.~~ That just served to put Sasuke into a supporting role in the end because to support Naruto at the end you needed to be at a certain level. Agree to disagree. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786457] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Naruto was never second string.</quote> Disagree. The show revolved way more around Sasuke than Naruto. Thank GOD the new series is more revolved around Boruto than Sarada although that Sarada Arc was fucking stupid as shit.</quote> Except that is false. The show focused on Naruto's growth more than Sasuke's excellence. Sasuke's excellence was a plot device to push Naruto into a worth Hokage candidate. Because a kid just happening to stumple into the role of Hokage because his dad was Hokage is a stupid story. Instead it showcases Naruto's sense of inferiority to his peers and his continual striving to better himself. You might have been blinded by Sasuke's excellence, but that is in on you for thinking all there is to an anime is how op a character is. Central to the plot became not just the sharingan but the tailed beasts as they were the overall goal and vehicle for the main villian's plan. Guess who had the most important tailed beast from the start of the whole show? Naruto. Him being able to grow, defend himself and fight back was more important to victory than anything Sasuke had done. Which is the whole point of the show from beginning to end. Him having the tailed beast was not enough. Other users of the beasts were fodder to akasutski. He needed to grow as he did. Like the whole revenge on Itachi was a sub-plot that had hardly an impact on the main plotline to battle Madara and his family line. That just served to put Sasuke into a supporting role in the end because to support Naruto at the end you needed to be at a certain level.</quote> Agree to disagree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:49:34 PM #32:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Agree to disagree. Why not instead provide a solid argument to support you viewpoint? Care to remind me of a time when Sasuke advanced the plot and Naruto did nothing of note? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893786559] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Agree to disagree.</quote> Why not instead provide a solid argument to support you viewpoint? Care to remind me of a time when Sasuke advanced the plot and Naruto did nothing of note?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:50:15 PM #33:	darkphoenix181 posted... ~~Naruto saved the day here and turned Gaara into a good guy. Wtf did Sasuke even do in this arc? I can't even remember.~~ Sasuke was personally trained and acknowledge by Kakashi and taught him the chidori. What did Kakashi do with Naruto? Aw yeah he tossed him off to learn the basics from a teacher that didn't like him. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786597] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Naruto saved the day here and turned Gaara into a good guy. Wtf did Sasuke even do in this arc? I can't even remember.</quote> Sasuke was personally trained and acknowledge by Kakashi and taught him the chidori. What did Kakashi do with Naruto? Aw yeah he tossed him off to learn the basics from a teacher that didn't like him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:50:53 PM #35:	darkphoenix181 posted... Care to remind me of a time when Sasuke advanced the plot and Naruto did nothing of note? Sasuke Retrieval comes to my mind quick. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786634] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Care to remind me of a time when Sasuke advanced the plot and Naruto did nothing of note?</quote> Sasuke Retrieval comes to my mind quick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/10/18 4:51:10 PM #36:	I don't think people ITT are saying Vegeta should be the main character, they're saying he should beat one villain. People are STILL mad Vegeta's sacrifice didn't kill Buu --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893786651] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>I don't think people ITT are saying Vegeta should be the main character, they're saying he should beat one villain. People are STILL mad Vegeta's sacrifice didn't kill Buu</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/10/18 4:51:28 PM #37:	If Vegeta wasn't getting his ass beat, how would I know how strong the bad guy is? --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:893786663] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>If Vegeta wasn't getting his ass beat, how would I know how strong the bad guy is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:51:34 PM #38:	Also, all of those examples are part 1 which everyone universally likes. The Sasuke wanking didn't start until part 2 where we'd completely ignore Naruto for years to focus on the next boring thing Sasuke was doing while he'd pull power up after power up out of his ass. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893786669] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Also, all of those examples are part 1 which everyone universally likes. The Sasuke wanking didn't start until part 2 where we'd completely ignore Naruto for years to focus on the next boring thing Sasuke was doing while he'd pull power up after power up out of his ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:52:08 PM #39:	~~How about the first thing they did in Shippuden is also tried to convince Sasuke to come back to the Leaf Village? I mean that's what Shippuden's main plot is about. Sasuke's redemption.~~ --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786702] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>How about the first thing they did in Shippuden is also tried to convince Sasuke to come back to the Leaf Village? I mean that's what Shippuden's main plot is about. Sasuke's redemption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:52:17 PM #40:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Sasuke was personally trained and acknowledge by Kakashi and taught him the chidori. What did Kakashi do with Naruto? Aw yeah he tossed him off to learn the basics from a teacher that didn't like him. What? I don't recall a teacher that didn't like him. Iruka treated him like he was his son. ~~Jiraiya was a better ninja then Kakashi and could teach Naruto more stuff as he did.~~ --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893786711] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote> Sasuke was personally trained and acknowledge by Kakashi and taught him the chidori. What did Kakashi do with Naruto? Aw yeah he tossed him off to learn the basics from a teacher that didn't like him.</quote> What? I don't recall a teacher that didn't like him. Iruka treated him like he was his son. Jiraiya was a better ninja then Kakashi and could teach Naruto more stuff as he did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:52:48 PM #41:	UnfairRepresent posted... I don't think people ITT are saying Vegeta should be the main character, they're saying he should beat one villain. People are STILL mad Vegeta's sacrifice didn't kill Buu ~~He killed the whole Ginyu force lmao~~ --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786744] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think people ITT are saying Vegeta should be the main character, they're saying he should beat one villain. People are STILL mad Vegeta's sacrifice didn't kill Buu</quote> He killed the whole Ginyu force lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:54:20 PM #42:	darkphoenix181 posted... What? I don't recall a teacher that didn't like him. Iruka treated him like he was his son.Jiraiya was a better ninja then Kakashi and could teach Naruto more stuff as he did. Ebisu --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786823] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>What? I don't recall a teacher that didn't like him. Iruka treated him like he was his son.Jiraiya was a better ninja then Kakashi and could teach Naruto more stuff as he did.</quote> Ebisu</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:55:13 PM #43:	Veggeta_MAX posted... ~~How about the first thing they did in Shippuden is also tried to convince Sasuke to come back to the Leaf Village? I mean that's what Shippuden's main plot is about. Sasuke's redemption.~~ Sasuke isn't advancing the plot here. He literally is just sitting and waiting unaware. Naruto is actively trying to reach him and along the way Naruto grows and meets challenges. Ultimately this story is about Naruto's unwillingness to leave a friend behind. This is also an important part of his goal to becoming a Hokage. His mindset being "I wouldn't be a good Hokage if I couldn't even save my friend". So he has to learn from personal experience that some people don't want to be saved. Although in the end he technically does save Sasuke. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893786874] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>How about the first thing they did in Shippuden is also tried to convince Sasuke to come back to the Leaf Village? I mean that's what Shippuden's main plot is about. Sasuke's redemption.</quote> Sasuke isn't advancing the plot here. He literally is just sitting and waiting unaware. Naruto is actively trying to reach him and along the way Naruto grows and meets challenges. Ultimately this story is about Naruto's unwillingness to leave a friend behind. This is also an important part of his goal to becoming a Hokage. His mindset being "I wouldn't be a good Hokage if I couldn't even save my friend". So he has to learn from personal experience that some people don't want to be saved. Although in the end he technically does save Sasuke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 01/10/18 4:56:42 PM #44:	So Shippuden is about Naruto trying to save Sasuke. Gotcha. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:893786949] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>So Shippuden is about Naruto trying to save Sasuke. Gotcha.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 4:58:39 PM #45:	Sasuke didn't advance the plot in part 2? Almost all the important plot points came from when Sasuke was getting the focus. Naruto played catch up to him the entire part 2 outside of the Invasion Arc. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893787056] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Sasuke didn't advance the plot in part 2? Almost all the important plot points came from when Sasuke was getting the focus. Naruto played catch up to him the entire part 2 outside of the Invasion Arc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 4:59:19 PM #46:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... Almost all the important plot points came from when Sasuke was getting the focus Such as? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893787096] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Almost all the important plot points came from when Sasuke was getting the focus</quote> Such as?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 01/10/18 5:16:43 PM #47:	darkphoenix181 posted... Holy_Cloud105 posted... Almost all the important plot points came from when Sasuke was getting the focus Such as? The truth of the Uchiha massacre, the reason for the summit was because of Sasuke and helped lead to the war starting, the past between Madara and Hashirama. The only big plot thing that happened when Naruto was the focus was learning Obito was behind the Kyuubi attacking Konoha at the start of the series. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:893787991] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Almost all the important plot points came from when Sasuke was getting the focus</quote> Such as?</quote> The truth of the Uchiha massacre, the reason for the summit was because of Sasuke and helped lead to the war starting, the past between Madara and Hashirama. The only big plot thing that happened when Naruto was the focus was learning Obito was behind the Kyuubi attacking Konoha at the start of the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Electrokinesis 01/10/18 5:25:24 PM #48:	Veggeta_MAX posted... ~~It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort.~~ That would have been amazing and I, for one, would not have been disappointed. --- It's scientifically impossible for pants to feel "pain". ~ TheRealItachi <cite>Electrokinesis posted [p:893788481] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>It's like saying Ron should have killed Voldermort.</quote> That would have been amazing and I, for one, would not have been disappointed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 01/10/18 5:39:01 PM #49:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... The truth of the Uchiha massacre, the reason for the summit was because of Sasuke and helped lead to the war starting, the past between Madara and Hashirama. The only big plot thing that happened when Naruto was the focus was learning Obito was behind the Kyuubi attacking Konoha at the start of the series. Actually both the summit of the Kage and the war was in regards to the tailed beasts of which Naruto was what one of the only two that at this point were not captured? Sure, Sasuke had moments, but you are discounting Naruto's moments heavily. We learn of the past of Sasuke's blood. Good. We learn the same of Naruto. We learn that Naruto is not just the blood of a Hokage and his mother's clan, we also learn of the prophecy of the six paths sage who Pain admitted was Naruto, whom Jiraiya thought was first pain. We get a flash back from Sasuke, but we get flashbacks from Naruto too. Maybe if you simply like Sasuke as a character more you thought the resolution of the Uchiha clan was more important than learning about Jiraiya's past, the six path sage and Naruto's bloodline. But then, that is on you for secretly disliking Naruto and liking Sasuke more. Then we have the whole akatsuki parts which they could care less about Sasuke and wanted to capture Naruto. Sasuke did fight them yes, but he had nothing valuable to most of them. Only Orichimaru, Itachi and Madara really desired anything from him via his eyes. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:893789165] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote><cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote> The truth of the Uchiha massacre, the reason for the summit was because of Sasuke and helped lead to the war starting, the past between Madara and Hashirama. The only big plot thing that happened when Naruto was the focus was learning Obito was behind the Kyuubi attacking Konoha at the start of the series.</quote> Actually both the summit of the Kage and the war was in regards to the tailed beasts of which Naruto was what one of the only two that at this point were not captured? Sure, Sasuke had moments, but you are discounting Naruto's moments heavily. We learn of the past of Sasuke's blood. Good. We learn the same of Naruto. We learn that Naruto is not just the blood of a Hokage and his mother's clan, we also learn of the prophecy of the six paths sage who Pain admitted was Naruto, whom Jiraiya thought was first pain. We get a flash back from Sasuke, but we get flashbacks from Naruto too. Maybe if you simply like Sasuke as a character more you thought the resolution of the Uchiha clan was more important than learning about Jiraiya's past, the six path sage and Naruto's bloodline. But then, that is on you for secretly disliking Naruto and liking Sasuke more. Then we have the whole akatsuki parts which they could care less about Sasuke and wanted to capture Naruto. Sasuke did fight them yes, but he had nothing valuable to most of them. Only Orichimaru, Itachi and Madara really desired anything from him via his eyes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 01/10/18 9:33:50 PM #50:	Vegeta is relevant in every arc and is the best treated character besides Goku. He doesn't need anything more... <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:893802594] in I'm pr... [t:76187136]...</cite> <quote>Vegeta is relevant in every arc and is the best treated character besides Goku. He doesn't need anything more...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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