Current Events > I think sex change operations should be paid for by the state.

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Duncanwii
01/09/18 12:47:41 PM
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It isn't just "plastic surgery" it's the final step into making a transgirl who they really are. People are going to blast me but that s what I really think.
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BLAKUboy
01/09/18 12:49:28 PM
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Implying only MTF trans exist.
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 12:49:53 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Implying only MTF trans exist.

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bluezero
01/09/18 12:50:15 PM
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I Like Toast
01/09/18 12:51:20 PM
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Should flat girls get free implants? Should small guys get free enlargement? Should @BignutzisBack get free hair and the masculine jaw he wants? What about free vasectomy or tubes tied?

Oh well bait topic gunna bait
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Offworlder1
01/09/18 12:51:42 PM
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No, if you want a sex change it should not be paid for by the state, it is a waste of public funds and will increase taxes on the public.
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 12:54:23 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Should flat girls get free implants? Should small guys get free enlargement? Should BignutzisBack get free hair and the masculine jaw he wants? What about free vasectomy or tubes tied?

Oh well bait topic gunna bait

theres no way you actually see equivalency between those and a sex change operation
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ImaAskAQuestion
01/09/18 12:54:32 PM
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Hey. I am a taxpayer too. So like, it would be like I am paying it myself ya know.
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KingCrabCake
01/09/18 12:55:04 PM
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I think my guns should be paid for by the state.
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Hairy-man
01/09/18 12:55:26 PM
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Disagreed
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eston
01/09/18 12:55:43 PM
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Everyone should get one free major surgery, and you get to choose what it is
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/09/18 12:55:46 PM
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now this is good bait
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DevsBro
01/09/18 12:55:56 PM
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who they really are.

So I don't get the whole trans thing to begin with but at least I can see the logic of wanting to look the way you feel. What I definitely can't see is any logic behind implying that "who you really are" could ever result from physical changes.
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I Like Toast
01/09/18 12:56:45 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...

theres no way you actually see equivalency between those and a sex change operation


Notice how he can't explain because he wants someone to take his weak bait.
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Kaname_Madoka
01/09/18 12:57:25 PM
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I agree
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 12:57:51 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
CookieMarvin posted...

theres no way you actually see equivalency between those and a sex change operation


Notice how he can't explain because he wants someone to take his weak bait.

weirdo tc aside
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RebelElite791
01/09/18 12:58:06 PM
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Sayoria isn't going to fuck you for making this topic
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I Like Toast
01/09/18 12:58:18 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
weirdo tc aside

Notice how he can't explain because he wants someone to take his weak bait.
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r4X0r
01/09/18 1:00:41 PM
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eston posted...
Everyone should get one free major surgery, and you get to choose what it is


A free surgery? How do you get the hospital to run for free, how do you get the doctors to work for free, how do you get the medical supplies for free?

Or did you mean "paid for by somebody else" instead of "free."
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I Like Toast
01/09/18 1:01:17 PM
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r4X0r posted...

Or did you mean "paid for by somebody else" instead of "free."

Hodor
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MrPeppers
01/09/18 1:02:07 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
theres no way you actually see equivalency between those and a sex change operation


The bottom line is that medical trials need to be performed that show a statistical significance for some stated outcome or reduction in spent healthcare dollars before Medicare/Medicaid will start footing the bill. So, at the moment, all of those proposals kind of are equivalent in that sense. There's no proven gold standard at this time, and until that benchmark is hit it will continue to be an uncovered procedure.
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TrevorBlack79
01/09/18 1:02:45 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Should flat girls get free implants? Should small guys get free enlargement? Should @BignutzisBack get free hair and the masculine jaw he wants?


These are all purely cosmetic, unlike srs which is directly tied to gender identity, making it more repairative. Better comparisons would include cleft palate, superfluous digits, vestigial tails, etc.

I Like Toast posted...
What about free vasectomy or tubes tied?


Absolutely, though for entirely different reasons. Vasectomies and tubal ligations are cheaper than welfare babies.
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KingCrabCake
01/09/18 1:03:40 PM
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Still think the state should pay for my guns...as its my american right to have them
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MrPeppers
01/09/18 1:03:51 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...
tubal ligations are cheaper than welfare babies.


(Nexplanons and IUDs are cheaper and pose significantly less risk)
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 1:04:03 PM
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oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again
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I Like Toast
01/09/18 1:04:11 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

These are all purely cosmetic

So exactly the same. Glad you realized how stupid it would be to have the state pay for cosmetic surgery.
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Kaname_Madoka
01/09/18 1:06:01 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what
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Duncanwii
01/09/18 1:06:23 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

If wanting girls here to be happy with their own bodies=Creeping than ok then.
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 1:06:39 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what

are you familiar with the going ons of tc
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Kaname_Madoka
01/09/18 1:07:07 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what

are you familiar with the going ons of tc

not particularly
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DarthAragorn
01/09/18 1:07:18 PM
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No
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KingCrabCake
01/09/18 1:07:18 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

If wanting girls here to be happy with their own bodies=Creeping than ok then.


Why would girls need surgery to be girls
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thanosibe
01/09/18 1:08:24 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...
Absolutely, though for entirely different reasons. Vasectomies and tubal ligations are cheaper than welfare babies.
Hell both our boys were premature, 14 weeks and 8 weeks respectively. The doctor literally said having another child (we only planned for the first one and wasn't planning for another due to being premature) could kill the baby or my wife, and I still paid for my own vasectomy only a few weeks after our second was born to make sure it didn't happen a third time. Waiting around for the government to pick the slack for something you need isn't going to end well.
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Duncanwii
01/09/18 1:10:22 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Duncanwii posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

If wanting girls here to be happy with their own bodies=Creeping than ok then.


Why would girls need surgery to be girls

Because the unfortunate reality is some girls are born boys. There are girls here that would really appreciate the courtesy of a free sex change op.
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 1:10:36 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what

are you familiar with the going ons of tc

not particularly

hes chasing female users around and making them uncomfortable. I asked if this was another one of those topics because toast was short circuiting, but he was just being ignorant.
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Hairy-man
01/09/18 1:10:41 PM
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CE has a hard on for TC. Why?
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Kaname_Madoka
01/09/18 1:11:25 PM
#39:


CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what

are you familiar with the going ons of tc

not particularly

hes chasing female users around and making them uncomfortable. I asked if this was another one of those topics because toast was short circuiting, but he was just being ignorant.

ok but what's creepy about this topic
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 1:12:11 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what

are you familiar with the going ons of tc

not particularly

hes chasing female users around and making them uncomfortable. I asked if this was another one of those topics because toast was short circuiting, but he was just being ignorant.

ok but what's creepy about this topic

rebels post made me think he was trying to bait someone in here. at face value, the topic is actually good
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FigureOfSpeech
01/09/18 1:12:31 PM
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They should be paid for by tax dollars of trump supporters on CE
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Kaname_Madoka
01/09/18 1:12:42 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

what

are you familiar with the going ons of tc

not particularly

hes chasing female users around and making them uncomfortable. I asked if this was another one of those topics because toast was short circuiting, but he was just being ignorant.

ok but what's creepy about this topic

rebels post made me think he was trying to bait someone in here. at face value, the topic is actually good

Who and how
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KingCrabCake
01/09/18 1:13:03 PM
#43:


Duncanwii posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Duncanwii posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
oh wait is this topic seriously duncan creeping on someone again

If wanting girls here to be happy with their own bodies=Creeping than ok then.


Why would girls need surgery to be girls

Because the unfortunate reality is some girls are born boys. There are girls here that would really appreciate the courtesy of a free sex change op.


Nope youre born a female you're a female. Dna is a thing and i believe in it
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
01/09/18 1:13:08 PM
#44:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
These are all purely cosmetic, unlike srs which is directly tied to gender identity, making it more repairative. Better comparisons would include cleft palate, superfluous digits, vestigial tails, etc.


Tell that to a girl who is 24 and flat chested that has been made fun of her whole life for having no boobs. Or a dude who has super low self esteem his whole life because he's rocking a 2 inch penis.
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TrevorBlack79
01/09/18 1:14:23 PM
#45:


I Like Toast posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...

These are all purely cosmetic

So exactly the same. Glad you realized how stupid it would be to have the state pay for cosmetic surgery.


Try reading beyond what you quoted.
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KingCrabCake
01/09/18 1:14:50 PM
#46:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
They should be paid for by tax dollars of trump supporters on CE


U have an odd obsession
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Duncanwii
01/09/18 1:16:32 PM
#47:


WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
These are all purely cosmetic, unlike srs which is directly tied to gender identity, making it more repairative. Better comparisons would include cleft palate, superfluous digits, vestigial tails, etc.


Tell that to a girl who is 24 and flat chested that has been made fun of her whole life for having no boobs. Or a dude who has super low self esteem his whole life because he's rocking a 2 inch penis.

Having a flat chest doesn't directly impede a mutual sexual relationship with your desired partner. Having a penis does which makes having a relationship for transgirls all the more harder.
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I Like Toast
01/09/18 1:16:33 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

Try reading beyond what you quoted

I did, where you made up some bullshit that one cosmetic surgery is different than another and then tried to compare a mental issue to a physical deformity.

Try thinking before you write.
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CookieMarvin
01/09/18 1:17:01 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Who and how

why do I have to break this down to a molecular level; I am neither that invested nor that confident in my analysis
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Kaname_Madoka
01/09/18 1:17:42 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Who and how

why do I have to break this down to a molecular level; I am neither that invested nor that confident in my analysis

sorry.
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