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Steiner
01/07/18 12:52:08 PM
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http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html
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Steiner
01/07/18 12:52:56 PM
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jgl5xx3
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 12:54:57 PM
#3:


did you just trap me into another kittens game
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 1:02:39 PM
#4:


it doesn't even idle when you click to a different tab
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Steiner
01/07/18 1:07:02 PM
#5:


there's very little time that being idle is beneficial in this game. there's almost always something to do
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 1:16:48 PM
#6:


damn wires
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Menji
01/07/18 1:29:05 PM
#7:


so I'm running around $.10 sales price, working p well
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Steiner
01/07/18 1:31:30 PM
#8:


if a price is working well you should be able to buy another auto clipper

at which point your supply goes up, and you should probably lower your price to clear out your surplus

at which point public demand goes up, and you can buy another auto clipper...
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Nanis23
01/07/18 1:32:27 PM
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I just imagined myself creating a thread named "I hate this" and listing literally everything in existence
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Menji
01/07/18 1:33:46 PM
#10:


oh god just got crazy, can't idle anymore now
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Steiner
01/07/18 1:39:56 PM
#11:


Menji posted...
just got crazy,


heh
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metroid composite
01/07/18 1:41:13 PM
#12:


mnkboy907 posted...
did you just trap me into another kittens game

I mean, the game actually has an ending, it took me like...6 hours when I played it, but I'm sure it could be done faster with smarter decision making.
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Steiner
01/07/18 1:45:42 PM
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when i turned the entire earth into paperclips i thought i was at the end

little did i know
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Menji
01/07/18 2:16:55 PM
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What did Quantum Computing do?
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Steiner
01/07/18 2:28:10 PM
#15:


Menji posted...
What did Quantum Computing do?


it cycles from -x to +x, spam clicking it when the box is filled for a boost of operations, but don't click it when it's cycling through negatives
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Steiner
01/07/18 2:47:38 PM
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metroid composite posted...
mnkboy907 posted...
did you just trap me into another kittens game

I mean, the game actually has an ending, it took me like...6 hours when I played it, but I'm sure it could be done faster with smarter decision making.


@metroid_composite

I just finished exploring the universe and met a thing that let me restart in a universe with a stronger lust for paperclips, when you say "an ending" is that further on from here?
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mnkbear907
01/07/18 2:59:52 PM
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I feel like I'm sputtering around right now. I guess I need to focus on building yomi to increase my stock market levels to make the big bucks? Operations are stalling though and even with 3 photowhatever chips I still can't seem to go high enough over maximum for the next upgrades. Got 21k max operations and the 4th chip is 25k.

And I dunno I've kinda been ignoring regular production after buying all those mega auto builders and pulling in consistent money. Got hesitant about buying more mega builders after I realized I had so many at one point that I wasn't actually making money because of how fast I was blowing through wire.

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Steiner
01/07/18 3:01:34 PM
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mnkbear907 posted...
I feel like I'm sputtering around right now. I guess I need to focus on building yomi to increase my stock market levels to make the big bucks? Operations are stalling though and even with 3 photowhatever chips I still can't seem to go high enough over maximum for the next upgrades. Got 21k max operations and the 4th chip is 25k.

And I dunno I've kinda been ignoring regular production after buying all those mega auto builders and pulling in consistent money. Got hesitant about buying more mega builders after I realized I had so many at one point that I wasn't actually making money because of how fast I was blowing through wire.


yeah basically. also yomi never stops being useful
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Menji
01/07/18 3:16:26 PM
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Any way to get creativity quicker? I am at 1K but need 25k abd 50k for next upgrades
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Steiner
01/07/18 3:18:21 PM
#20:


more processors, and not spending your... i already forgot the name of the currency but the other thing your processors gives you. you only generate creativity when that one is full.
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Whiskey_Nick
01/07/18 3:28:36 PM
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it idles in a separate window but not tab
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HanOfTheNekos
01/07/18 4:01:54 PM
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Is high risk the way to go?
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metroid composite
01/07/18 4:03:16 PM
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Steiner posted...
metroid composite posted...
mnkboy907 posted...
did you just trap me into another kittens game

I mean, the game actually has an ending, it took me like...6 hours when I played it, but I'm sure it could be done faster with smarter decision making.


@metroid_composite

I just finished exploring the universe and met a thing that let me restart in a universe with a stronger lust for paperclips, when you say "an ending" is that further on from here?

Oh, nah, I didn't click the "restart the universe" button, and just accepted that as the ending
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 4:43:07 PM
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Oh geez it looks like the stock market idles while the rest of it doesn't or something. Went to store and came back to hundreds of millions of dollars. @_@

And then suddenly there was an option to buy 20 trust and then another 10 trust. @_@

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HanOfTheNekos
01/07/18 5:02:51 PM
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From what I've gathered, Generous and Greedy are usually the two Strategic Models to go with unless there's a really good A100 or B100 option.
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HeroDelTiempo17
01/07/18 5:22:30 PM
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I think I messed up and am stuck idling for a while

I need 50k Creativity so I upgraded my processors, but it's still slow going. But I also need the 70k ops for the drone upgrade, and the only +trust boosts I have left costs millions of dollars. If there's a way to use the stock market to get shitloads of money real fast then I can't figure it out.
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Steiner
01/07/18 5:24:35 PM
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it seems that if you don't get enough memory to be able to store the 70k operations needed at one point you might hit a point you can't advance past.
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Tom Bombadil
01/07/18 5:36:37 PM
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I really hope I didn't lock myself out of progress

I unleashed the hypno drones or whatever and now I don't have any paperclip production

and everything costs clips

including clip factories, which I unlocked after spending all my clips

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Steiner
01/07/18 5:37:55 PM
#29:


you didn't i'm pretty sure
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 5:38:25 PM
#30:


Yeah all I have left are the 50k creativity and 70k op things and as far as I can tell my only way to gain trust is the paperclip production bonuses and lol that's gonna take awhile.

I don't know if I'm simply not understanding quantum computing or if it's really just not very useful. I have all available chips, but I can't seem to ever raise it more than ~2k past the maximum before it starts to fall again. At 61k maximum, that means I'll still need to idle until I get 7 more paperclip production trust increases to buy the 70k ops thing. It looks like that's going to take forever.

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DeepsPraw
01/07/18 5:41:04 PM
#31:


god, fuck the third phase

what bullshit
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HeroDelTiempo17
01/07/18 5:43:12 PM
#32:


mnkboy907 posted...
Yeah all I have left are the 50k creativity and 70k op things and as far as I can tell my only way to gain trust is the paperclip production bonuses and lol that's gonna take awhile.

I don't know if I'm simply not understanding quantum computing or if it's really just not very useful. I have all available chips, but I can't seem to ever raise it more than ~2k past the maximum before it starts to fall again. At 61k maximum, that means I'll still need to idle until I get 7 more paperclip production trust increases to buy the 70k ops thing. It looks like that's going to take forever.


I'm in the same boat as you are. It was useful for spamming modeling but I have little use for it anymore. All of my spend money for +1 trust upgrades are also gone.

So I guess protip to anyone before this point regarding spending Trust: make sure you can get to 70k memory
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Tom Bombadil
01/07/18 5:44:42 PM
#33:


You can use quantum computing to go a BIT (like 1 or 2 k tops) above your limit.
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DeepsPraw
01/07/18 5:46:15 PM
#34:


Did you people put all your trust in processing or something?
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 5:48:04 PM
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I have 40 processing and 62 memory.

Obviously I would've done more memory if I had realized I'd be running out of stuff to buy so soon.
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HeroDelTiempo17
01/07/18 5:54:25 PM
#36:


Yeah, I upgraded processing to get to a perk that needed tons of Creativity but the actual progression is gated behind Memory.
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Xuxon
01/07/18 5:57:22 PM
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i got 70 memory with only 18 processing and i'm not able to progress, either. the only two things left to buy cost 25k creativity and 100 trust.
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DeepsPraw
01/07/18 5:58:20 PM
#38:


I think I'm screwed

all my probes have been wiped out by drifters. Every new probe I launch is immediately killed, and no matter how I allocate the stats, I can't win a single battle or form a self-sustaining colony
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DeepsPraw
01/07/18 6:00:04 PM
#39:


Xuxon posted...
i got 70 memory with only 18 processing and i'm not able to progress, either. the only two things left to buy cost 25k creativity and 100 trust.


How much trust do you have? Getting to 100 triggers the next phase of the game

Ramp up production if you can't buy any more bonuses
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Steiner
01/07/18 6:00:33 PM
#40:


DeepsPraw posted...
I think I'm screwed

all my probes have been wiped out by drifters. Every new probe I launch is immediately killed, and no matter how I allocate the stats, I can't win a single battle or form a self-sustaining colony


at first just focus on making a lot of probes. something like 12 proliferation and 8 hazard protection. then spam click the button. let this force build up to a good high number, then start tweaking their stats.
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XIII_rocks
01/07/18 6:01:25 PM
#41:


OK yeah time to alt-F4 out of this right fucking now

I could be here all night
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Steiner
01/07/18 6:01:42 PM
#42:


Xuxon posted...
i got 70 memory with only 18 processing and i'm not able to progress, either. the only two things left to buy cost 25k creativity and 100 trust.


25k creativity doesn't take long if you leave stuff running when you have max ops
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Xuxon
01/07/18 6:14:15 PM
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i had 88 trust for a long time. apparently my barrier was 100M paperclips, once i got there all these "tokens of good will" showed up that i could buy for an insignificant amount of my money to let me get to 100 trust
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mnkboy907
01/07/18 6:18:19 PM
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Oh that's where that came from.
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Tom Bombadil
01/07/18 6:54:27 PM
#45:


I have so many drones but they are not generating anything for some reason

they generate 0 wire or matter and buying more doesn't seem to have any effect on factory output
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NFUN
01/07/18 6:57:00 PM
#46:


Tom Bombadil posted...
I have so many drones but they are not generating anything for some reason

they generate 0 wire or matter and buying more doesn't seem to have any effect on factory output

do you have enough power?
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Steiner
01/07/18 6:57:12 PM
#47:


Tom Bombadil posted...
I have so many drones but they are not generating anything for some reason

they generate 0 wire or matter and buying more doesn't seem to have any effect on factory output


do you have enough matter available from exploring?
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Steiner
01/07/18 6:57:40 PM
#48:


oh there's that phase
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Tom Bombadil
01/07/18 6:57:56 PM
#49:


from what now
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Steiner
01/07/18 6:59:33 PM
#50:


Tom Bombadil posted...
from what now
https://gyazo.com/34ccee788b7388f9edc5e42b749962ea


oh right at this point you made too many drones. you only have the matter available on the earth and you need to get 5 oct clips from it. restart!
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