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ChromaticAngel 01/06/18 11:39:03 PM #1:	thanks obama --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893568938] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>thanks obama</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/06/18 11:43:22 PM #2:	PC master race --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893569182] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>PC master race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/06/18 11:43:51 PM #3:	gnomefromnome posted... PC master race it affects console games too --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893569211] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>PC master race</quote> it affects console games too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/06/18 11:52:19 PM #4:	* checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that. --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893569617] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>* checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/06/18 11:54:44 PM #5:	gnomefromnome posted... PC master race --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:893569735] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>PC master race</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/06/18 11:55:46 PM #6:	gnomefromnome posted... * checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that. https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893569785] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>* checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that.</quote> https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/06/18 11:57:14 PM #7:	im pretty sure CPU design and manufacturing requires hundreds of educated engineers, Ph.Ds, researchers etc. can hardly call them morons --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:893569857] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>im pretty sure CPU design and manufacturing requires hundreds of educated engineers, Ph.Ds, researchers etc. can hardly call them morons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/06/18 11:58:23 PM #8:	ChromaticAngel posted... gnomefromnome posted... * checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that. https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update Ooh Fortnite is down. Post a link about the PlayStation Network being down. --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893569923] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>* checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that.</quote> https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update</quote> Ooh Fortnite is down. Post a link about the PlayStation Network being down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 01/06/18 11:58:40 PM #9:	Ubisoft, epic, all have issues. --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:893569936] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>Ubisoft, epic, all have issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/06/18 11:59:37 PM #10:	gnomefromnome posted... Ooh Fortnite is down. Post a link about the PlayStation Network being down. when did I claim PlayStation Network was down? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893569985] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>Ooh Fortnite is down. Post a link about the PlayStation Network being down.</quote> when did I claim PlayStation Network was down?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/06/18 11:59:52 PM #11:	ChromaticAngel posted... gnomefromnome posted... PC master race it affects console games too --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893569999] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>PC master race</quote> it affects console games too</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/07/18 12:01:00 AM #12:	gnomefromnome posted... ChromaticAngel posted... gnomefromnome posted... PC master race it affects console games too so PlayStation Network is a game? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893570062] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>PC master race</quote> it affects console games too</quote></quote> so PlayStation Network is a game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/07/18 12:02:23 AM #13:	ChromaticAngel posted... gnomefromnome posted... * checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that. https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update Youre trying to refute my post here, and failed --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893570125] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>* checks PS4 board* If PSN was down there would be posts about it there....but it isnt, how about that.</quote> https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update</quote> Youre trying to refute my post here, and failed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/07/18 12:02:54 AM #14:	gnomefromnome posted... Youre trying to refute my post here, and failed Try again. Thanks. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893570156] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>Youre trying to refute my post here, and failed </quote> Try again. Thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/07/18 12:06:07 AM #15:	Console games https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/200426246 All servers are up. --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893570318] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>Console games https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/200426246 All servers are up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/07/18 12:10:09 AM #16:	gnomefromnome posted... Console games https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/200426246 All servers are up. Servers physically powered on and responding to Rockstar's healthchecks. Actual games broke / sketchy at best. Obvious spike of brokenness on intel patch application. Try again. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893570526] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>Console games https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/200426246 All servers are up.</quote> Servers physically powered on and responding to Rockstar's healthchecks. Actual games broke / sketchy at best. Obvious spike of brokenness on intel patch application. Try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 01/07/18 12:15:46 AM #17:	ChromaticAngel posted... 9 reports Oh the humanity --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893570788] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote></quote> 9 reports Oh the humanity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/07/18 12:18:40 AM #18:	gnomefromnome posted... 9 reports Oh the humanity that's just the number of people who went out of their way to downdetector to complain on that website. If I head to the PS4 board I see 4600 pages of topics at 50/50. That doesn't mean only 230,000 people are playing PS4. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893570943] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote>9 reports Oh the humanity</quote> that's just the number of people who went out of their way to downdetector to complain on that website. If I head to the PS4 board I see 4600 pages of topics at 50/50. That doesn't mean only 230,000 people are playing PS4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 01/07/18 9:48:51 PM #20:	AMD were affected as well. Meltdown was specifically Intel, but Spectre affects pretty much every modern CPU including AMD and ARM. The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. Any fix for this reduces CPU speed by an order of magnitude I dont know why the intel executive management team is in any way related --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:893621451] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote>AMD were affected as well. Meltdown was specifically Intel, but Spectre affects pretty much every modern CPU including AMD and ARM. The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. Any fix for this reduces CPU speed by an order of magnitude I dont know why the intel executive management team is in any way related</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 01/07/18 10:39:26 PM #22:	Godnorgosh posted... Rika_Furude posted... The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. That's the problem, no? AMD processors' selling point was that they offered more cores and threads, and therefore better processing speed for multitasking. Intel, conversely, offered better single-tasking processors. These were the grounds on which they competed, and why both architectures are distinct, yet at the same time, despite their differences, both are critically vulnerable. Intel and AMD have been racing to dominate each other for many years. Both companies wanted to leverage these strengths to outcompete the other, and they wanted to do it quickly. That is not a situation which is conducive to extensive security testing. Every cpu manufacturer has had the same flaw for 2 decades, this isnt a "management sucks" scenario. Of course intel and amd care about security --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:893624200] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed.</quote> That's the problem, no? AMD processors' selling point was that they offered more cores and threads, and therefore better processing speed for multitasking. Intel, conversely, offered better single-tasking processors. These were the grounds on which they competed, and why both architectures are distinct, yet at the same time, despite their differences, both are critically vulnerable. Intel and AMD have been racing to dominate each other for many years. Both companies wanted to leverage these strengths to outcompete the other, and they wanted to do it quickly. That is not a situation which is conducive to extensive security testing.</quote> Every cpu manufacturer has had the same flaw for 2 decades, this isnt a "management sucks" scenario. Of course intel and amd care about security</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/07/18 10:41:17 PM #23:	Rika_Furude posted... AMD were affected as well. Meltdown was specifically Intel, but Spectre affects pretty much every modern CPU including AMD and ARM. The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. Any fix for this reduces CPU speed by an order of magnitude I dont know why the intel executive management team is in any way related AMD is reporting a negligible performance impact on fixing Spectre. So while it affects others it does not affect them equally. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893624304] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>AMD were affected as well. Meltdown was specifically Intel, but Spectre affects pretty much every modern CPU including AMD and ARM. The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. Any fix for this reduces CPU speed by an order of magnitude I dont know why the intel executive management team is in any way related</quote> AMD is reporting a negligible performance impact on fixing Spectre. So while it affects others it does not affect them equally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 01/07/18 10:48:29 PM #25:	Godnorgosh posted... Rika_Furude posted... Godnorgosh posted... Rika_Furude posted... The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. That's the problem, no? AMD processors' selling point was that they offered more cores and threads, and therefore better processing speed for multitasking. Intel, conversely, offered better single-tasking processors. These were the grounds on which they competed, and why both architectures are distinct, yet at the same time, despite their differences, both are critically vulnerable. Intel and AMD have been racing to dominate each other for many years. Both companies wanted to leverage these strengths to outcompete the other, and they wanted to do it quickly. That is not a situation which is conducive to extensive security testing. Every cpu manufacturer has had the same flaw for 2 decades, this isnt a "management sucks" scenario. Of course intel and amd care about security I don't know about that. It took a decade after the fact for Meltdown's discovery, and it wasn't discovered internally by Intel, but by a researcher from Google. Oh, youre right. That proves every single cpu manufacturer doesnt care about security. Not only that, but fuck intel specifically --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:893624690] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> The issue is a fundamental flaw with how all CPUs handle instructions and they were specifically designed that way to increase speed. </quote> That's the problem, no? AMD processors' selling point was that they offered more cores and threads, and therefore better processing speed for multitasking. Intel, conversely, offered better single-tasking processors. These were the grounds on which they competed, and why both architectures are distinct, yet at the same time, despite their differences, both are critically vulnerable. Intel and AMD have been racing to dominate each other for many years. Both companies wanted to leverage these strengths to outcompete the other, and they wanted to do it quickly. That is not a situation which is conducive to extensive security testing. </quote> Every cpu manufacturer has had the same flaw for 2 decades, this isnt a "management sucks" scenario. Of course intel and amd care about security</quote> I don't know about that. It took a decade after the fact for Meltdown's discovery, and it wasn't discovered internally by Intel, but by a researcher from Google.</quote> Oh, youre right. That proves every single cpu manufacturer doesnt care about security. Not only that, but fuck intel specifically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkDragon400 01/07/18 11:02:37 PM #27:	Godnorgosh posted... I don't know if that proves anything, but does it cast doubt on Intel's internal testing? Probably. No matter how good their internal testing is, there are going to be some bugs. Especially when you're dealing with really weird vulnerabilities like these. --- http://i.imgur.com/Zkq2JUS.png http://i.imgur.com/AS9KUto.jpg <cite>DarkDragon400 posted [p:893625387] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know if that proves anything, but does it cast doubt on Intel's internal testing? Probably.</quote> No matter how good their internal testing is, there are going to be some bugs. Especially when you're dealing with really weird vulnerabilities like these.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/08/18 2:08:19 AM #28:	Godnorgosh posted... I don't know if that proves anything, but does it cast doubt on Intel's internal testing? Probably. Not particularly. They arent gods or wizards. Mistakes happen. Every cpu manufacturer made the same mistake and it went unnoticed for over 20 years. It makes no sense to shit on intel just because. Its not like this vulberability was out in the open screaming for attention --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:893632476] in online gam... [t:76175868]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> I don't know if that proves anything, but does it cast doubt on Intel's internal testing? Probably.</quote> Not particularly. They arent gods or wizards. Mistakes happen. Every cpu manufacturer made the same mistake and it went unnoticed for over 20 years. It makes no sense to shit on intel just because. Its not like this vulberability was out in the open screaming for attention</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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