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Kelystic 01/04/18 7:47:53 PM #1:	A Japanese TV programme has sparked accusations of racism and cultural insensitivity after a comedian painted his face to impersonate Eddie Murphy. The New Year's Eve show featured celebrity comic Hamada appearing in a Beverly Hills Cop skit with his face blacked up. Using makeup to lampoon black people - a practice known as blackface - is seen by many to be deeply offensive. Protest over the show have grown over the past days. US-born writer and columnist Baye McNeil - who is black and has lived in Japan for 13 years - drew attention to the show on Twitter, arguing that black people were "not a punchline nor a prop". "Need a black actor, get a black actor that speaks Japanese," he urged. He said he loved Japan and wanted to draw people's attention to how the practice of blackface is widely regarded as racist. He tweeted that his "nightmare scenario" was that during the opening ceremony of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, "Japan naively sends a Blackface doowop group out to pay homage to black athletes". "What a fiasco that'll be! So I implore you please #stopblackfaceJapan now." But there is debate on Twitter over whether Japanese audiences are aware of the racist history of minstrel shows in the US and Europe, and whether it remains racist if performers and audiences are unaware of that history. Other Twitter users defended the show, saying the comedians merely wanted the Eddie Murphy portrayal to be as accurate as possible and pay homage to the actor. But Mr McNeil said people should learn to be more careful and sensitive with the issue. Talking to Japanese media, he said the first minstrel shows were brought to the country from the US in the 19th Century. Throughout the 20th Century, Japanese singers imitating African-American musicians have often used the same technique. In 2015, Mr McNeil started a successful campaign to stop the performance of two bands in blackface on national TV. "I've had numerous conversations with my Japanese friends about the innocuous nature of Blackface in Japan (due to their not having a racialized history or historical ties to Blackface...which is inaccurate)," Mr McNeil writes on Facebook. "I don't think it's necessarily racist. I don't. At least not intentionally. But it is definitely problematic regardless of whether the people doing it have racist motives or not." In a similar vein, Japanese advertising campaigns have caused controversy in the past for portraying Westerners with Japanese actors wearing blonde wigs and long plastic noses. Both Japanese airline ANA and electronics giant Toshiba had to pull their TV ads when viewers took offence at the blatantly stereotypical depiction of foreigners. bbc --- http://i.imgur.com/xNf1K9h.jpg <cite>Kelystic posted [p:893436319] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>A Japanese TV programme has sparked accusations of racism and cultural insensitivity after a comedian painted his face to impersonate Eddie Murphy. The New Year's Eve show featured celebrity comic Hamada appearing in a Beverly Hills Cop skit with his face blacked up. Using makeup to lampoon black people - a practice known as blackface - is seen by many to be deeply offensive. Protest over the show have grown over the past days. US-born writer and columnist Baye McNeil - who is black and has lived in Japan for 13 years - drew attention to the show on Twitter, arguing that black people were "not a punchline nor a prop". "Need a black actor, get a black actor that speaks Japanese," he urged. He said he loved Japan and wanted to draw people's attention to how the practice of blackface is widely regarded as racist. He tweeted that his "nightmare scenario" was that during the opening ceremony of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, "Japan naively sends a Blackface doowop group out to pay homage to black athletes". "What a fiasco that'll be! So I implore you please #stopblackfaceJapan now." But there is debate on Twitter over whether Japanese audiences are aware of the racist history of minstrel shows in the US and Europe, and whether it remains racist if performers and audiences are unaware of that history. Other Twitter users defended the show, saying the comedians merely wanted the Eddie Murphy portrayal to be as accurate as possible and pay homage to the actor. But Mr McNeil said people should learn to be more careful and sensitive with the issue. Talking to Japanese media, he said the first minstrel shows were brought to the country from the US in the 19th Century. Throughout the 20th Century, Japanese singers imitating African-American musicians have often used the same technique. In 2015, Mr McNeil started a successful campaign to stop the performance of two bands in blackface on national TV. "I've had numerous conversations with my Japanese friends about the innocuous nature of Blackface in Japan (due to their not having a racialized history or historical ties to Blackface...which is inaccurate)," Mr McNeil writes on Facebook. "I don't think it's necessarily racist. I don't. At least not intentionally. But it is definitely problematic regardless of whether the people doing it have racist motives or not." In a similar vein, Japanese advertising campaigns have caused controversy in the past for portraying Westerners with Japanese actors wearing blonde wigs and long plastic noses. Both Japanese airline ANA and electronics giant Toshiba had to pull their TV ads when viewers took offence at the blatantly stereotypical depiction of foreigners. bbc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 01/04/18 7:49:00 PM #2:	Lol --- http://i.imgur.com/GNk8cVz.gif http://i.imgur.com/oH2WTnb.gif http://i.imgur.com/e76ObTJ.jpg <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:893436381] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 01/04/18 7:49:52 PM #3:	Yawn --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893436431] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Yawn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 01/04/18 7:50:25 PM #4:	Im like 99% sure that's actually Eddie Murphy --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:893436467] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Im like 99% sure that's actually Eddie Murphy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/04/18 7:51:46 PM #5:	Japan is very racist. That's what happens in a society that was xenophobic in it's past and 99% of the population is the same race <cite>Zikten posted [p:893436534] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Japan is very racist. That's what happens in a society that was xenophobic in it's past and 99% of the population is the same race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/04/18 7:54:31 PM #6:	Did anyone ask Eddie Murphy if he was offended? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893436698] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Did anyone ask Eddie Murphy if he was offended?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 01/04/18 7:56:08 PM #7:	American customs dont apply to other countries, dingbat. What a clown --- You gotta fly like an eagle and not.b... be like a turkey <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:893436803] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>American customs dont apply to other countries, dingbat. What a clown</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 01/04/18 7:57:27 PM #8:	continues eating and staring like Goku when he meets Monster Carrot for the first time --- http://i.imgur.com/8y2C7SM.png <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:893436905] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>continues eating and staring like Goku when he meets Monster Carrot for the first time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 01/04/18 8:00:41 PM #10:	Spooking posted... The culture police trying to deem what's acceptable and what's not... on the world stage. It's the cultural differences ce meme on the path to its logical conclusion. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893437117] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>The culture police trying to deem what's acceptable and what's not... on the world stage.</quote> It's the cultural differences ce meme on the path to its logical conclusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe_stalin518 01/04/18 8:00:45 PM #11:	Some people need to fucking shut the hell up . You don't see redheads crying about Ronald McDonald but I guess whiny ass baby's going whine for attention, usually to try and sell some crappy merch --- how does super mario world work without updates? Relax I know what I'm doing,I been killing topics since 1987 <cite>joe_stalin518 posted [p:893437121] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Some people need to fucking shut the hell up . You don't see redheads crying about Ronald McDonald but I guess whiny ass baby's going whine for attention, usually to try and sell some crappy merch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 01/04/18 8:03:48 PM #12:	LMAO --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:893437333] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vamp_Aubrey 01/04/18 8:03:55 PM #13:	lmao --- http://giant.gfycat.com/DefensiveSnappyHartebeest.gif http://i.imgur.com/65rUq1c.gif http://i.imgur.com/7SNyDjv.gif <cite>Vamp_Aubrey posted [p:893437341] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 01/04/18 8:06:32 PM #14:	It's meant to be a fucking joke, you goddamn bastards. Hamada is regularly the brunt of these jokes in Gaki no Tsukai. Christ, these people make my blood pressure rise. --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon <cite>EverDownward posted [p:893437504] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>It's meant to be a fucking joke, you goddamn bastards. Hamada is regularly the brunt of these jokes in Gaki no Tsukai. Christ, these people make my blood pressure rise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMang 01/04/18 8:16:20 PM #15:	As a big fan of the show. I knew while watching this years game, that there would be some outrage over this. I just didn't think it would show up on my twitter or here. Japan does have some racism and xenophobic problems but this particular case is not something to get outraged over. The joke is they're always dressing Hamada in ridiculous outfits. He's usually dressed as a lady with big boobs, short skirt, a wig and a garter belt. This year's theme was American Police so they swerved us when he came out as Japanese Eddie Murphy. Basically I'm asking. Why can white people portray Klingons on Star Trek but a famous Japanese comedian can't do this? --- Not changing sig until I decide to change my sig Started: 01-08-11 <cite>PowerMang posted [p:893438096] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>As a big fan of the show. I knew while watching this years game, that there would be some outrage over this. I just didn't think it would show up on my twitter or here. Japan does have some racism and xenophobic problems but this particular case is not something to get outraged over. The joke is they're always dressing Hamada in ridiculous outfits. He's usually dressed as a lady with big boobs, short skirt, a wig and a garter belt. This year's theme was American Police so they swerved us when he came out as Japanese Eddie Murphy. Basically I'm asking. Why can white people portray Klingons on Star Trek but a famous Japanese comedian can't do this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImaAskAQuestion 01/04/18 8:19:32 PM #16:	I saw this and knew there would be outrage. Why not attack them for the Onsen batsu, laughing at their chef being black? I know how these guys are. I do not see them any less for this. In fact, knowing Hamada, I fucking died. This was funny. Onh yeah, and what about Matsuko Deluxe as that little black boy on the Earth Defense batsu? --- Just curious <cite>ImaAskAQuestion posted [p:893438305] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>I saw this and knew there would be outrage. Why not attack them for the Onsen batsu, laughing at their chef being black? I know how these guys are. I do not see them any less for this. In fact, knowing Hamada, I fucking died. This was funny. Onh yeah, and what about Matsuko Deluxe as that little black boy on the Earth Defense batsu?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kelystic 01/04/18 8:20:53 PM #17:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDgK_Viu2dc --- http://i.imgur.com/xNf1K9h.jpg <cite>Kelystic posted [p:893438395] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDgK_Viu2dc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 01/04/18 8:22:30 PM #18:	Basically I'm asking. Why can white people portray Klingons on Star Trek but a famous Japanese comedian can't do this? Wasn't aware that all Klingons were supposed to be a certain color or whatever ? --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:893438482] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><quote>Basically I'm asking. Why can white people portray Klingons on Star Trek but a famous Japanese comedian can't do this?</quote> Wasn't aware that all Klingons were supposed to be a certain color or whatever ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/04/18 8:23:23 PM #19:	Oh no, the cultural insensitivity towards all those American viewers --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:893438531] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Oh no, the cultural insensitivity towards all those American viewers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 01/04/18 8:24:38 PM #20:	PowerMang posted... Klingons on Star Trek lol.... --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://i.imgur.com/CqukfNH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JgG0NO0.jpg <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:893438612] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerMang posted...</cite> <quote>Klingons on Star Trek</quote> lol....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImaAskAQuestion 01/04/18 8:27:01 PM #21:	In addition to that "Get a black actor" thing that guy said, he clearly doesn't follow them because Bob Sapp has worked with them and Bobby Ologun was also just inthe Detectives batsu. --- Just curious <cite>ImaAskAQuestion posted [p:893438773] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>In addition to that "Get a black actor" thing that guy said, he clearly doesn't follow them because Bob Sapp has worked with them and Bobby Ologun was also just inthe Detectives batsu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/04/18 8:29:16 PM #22:	ImaAskAQuestion posted... In addition to that "Get a black actor" thing that guy said, he clearly doesn't follow them because Bob Sapp has worked with them and Bobby Ologun was also just inthe Detectives batsu. And the skit was an impersonation of an actor who happened to be black so it's kinda completely missing the point. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:893438910] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImaAskAQuestion posted...</cite> <quote>In addition to that "Get a black actor" thing that guy said, he clearly doesn't follow them because Bob Sapp has worked with them and Bobby Ologun was also just inthe Detectives batsu.</quote> And the skit was an impersonation of an actor who happened to be black so it's kinda completely missing the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 01/04/18 8:31:06 PM #23:	Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever <cite>Axiom posted [p:893439005] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 01/04/18 8:32:21 PM #24:	rofl --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:893439085] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>rofl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 01/04/18 8:34:33 PM #25:	So who's mad at this? The Japanese in Japan or stupid westerners who think other countries need to meet western standards of outrage? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:893439213] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>So who's mad at this? The Japanese in Japan or stupid westerners who think other countries need to meet western standards of outrage?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 01/04/18 8:37:18 PM #26:	I'm getting too old for this shit. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:893439387] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote> I'm getting too old for this shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 01/04/18 8:37:37 PM #27:	Axiom posted... Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:893439408] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever</quote> Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kelystic 01/04/18 8:37:49 PM #28:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... So who's mad at this? The Japanese in Japan or stupid westerners who think other countries need to meet western standards of outrage? US-born writer and columnist Baye McNeil - who is black and has lived in Japan for 13 years - drew attention to the show on Twitter, arguing that black people were "not a punchline nor a prop". --- http://i.imgur.com/xNf1K9h.jpg <cite>Kelystic posted [p:893439420] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So who's mad at this? The Japanese in Japan or stupid westerners who think other countries need to meet western standards of outrage?</quote> US-born writer and columnist Baye McNeil - who is black and has lived in Japan for 13 years - drew attention to the show on Twitter, arguing that black people were "not a punchline nor a prop".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/04/18 8:38:26 PM #29:	They will probably laugh at us like we laugh at people who go to the streets over a Muhammad drawing --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:893439459] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>They will probably laugh at us like we laugh at people who go to the streets over a Muhammad drawing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImaAskAQuestion 01/04/18 8:40:16 PM #30:	Same show a few years back. Where was the rage? Oh right. These complaints by non fans who will boycott this show they do not watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF9YnxV6W0Q --- Just curious <cite>ImaAskAQuestion posted [p:893439566] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Same show a few years back. Where was the rage? Oh right. These complaints by non fans who will boycott this show they do not watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF9YnxV6W0Q</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 01/04/18 8:40:51 PM #31:	Kelystic posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So who's mad at this? The Japanese in Japan or stupid westerners who think other countries need to meet western standards of outrage? US-born writer and columnist Baye McNeil - who is black and has lived in Japan for 13 years - drew attention to the show on Twitter, arguing that black people were "not a punchline nor a prop". Ok fair enough. Also there's like 100 black people in Japan total. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:893439595] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kelystic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So who's mad at this? The Japanese in Japan or stupid westerners who think other countries need to meet western standards of outrage?</quote> US-born writer and columnist Baye McNeil - who is black and has lived in Japan for 13 years - drew attention to the show on Twitter, arguing that black people were "not a punchline nor a prop".</quote> Ok fair enough. Also there's like 100 black people in Japan total.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 01/04/18 8:44:24 PM #32:	Cultural differences. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:893439752] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Cultural differences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 01/04/18 8:47:15 PM #33:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... Axiom posted... Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think. Cosplay is not the same as blackface which historically was used as a way to mock black people and further stereotypes. You're right about Japan not caring though and that's because they truly are racist as fuck. That said I'm willing to chalk this up to their ignorance on blackface's history in America not that they would care about it in the first place <cite>Axiom posted [p:893439894] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever</quote> Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think.</quote> Cosplay is not the same as blackface which historically was used as a way to mock black people and further stereotypes. You're right about Japan not caring though and that's because they truly are racist as fuck. That said I'm willing to chalk this up to their ignorance on blackface's history in America not that they would care about it in the first place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 01/04/18 8:48:05 PM #34:	It's not racism. It's a running gag that Hamada dresses up as various peoples --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:893439950] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>It's not racism. It's a running gag that Hamada dresses up as various peoples</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 01/04/18 9:01:06 PM #35:	Why do people think they have to paint their faces black to portray black people? Just wear the clothes. <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:893440629] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Why do people think they have to paint their faces black to portray black people? Just wear the clothes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 01/04/18 9:05:14 PM #36:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Why do people think they have to paint their faces black to portray black people? Just wear the clothes. Cuz black people can wear white people clothes --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:893440845] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people think they have to paint their faces black to portray black people? Just wear the clothes.</quote> Cuz black people can wear white people clothes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImaAskAQuestion 01/04/18 9:05:54 PM #37:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Why do people think they have to paint their faces black to portray black people? Just wear the clothes. Because it adds to the unexpected humor. Watch the show first before judging. --- Just curious <cite>ImaAskAQuestion posted [p:893440874] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people think they have to paint their faces black to portray black people? Just wear the clothes.</quote> Because it adds to the unexpected humor. Watch the show first before judging.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightmare_Luna 01/04/18 9:06:48 PM #38:	Zikten posted... Japan is very racist. That's what happens in a society that was xenophobic in it's past and 99% of the population is the same race --- "That's not a character, that's a set of bondage gear that can cast Ice 2." Vento Aureo 469 <cite>Nightmare_Luna posted [p:893440910] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>Japan is very racist. That's what happens in a society that was xenophobic in it's past and 99% of the population is the same race</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 01/04/18 9:20:50 PM #39:	PowerMang posted... Basically I'm asking. Why can white people portray Klingons on Star Trek but a famous Japanese comedian can't do this? lmao what a stupid comparison --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:893441661] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerMang posted...</cite> <quote>Basically I'm asking. Why can white people portray Klingons on Star Trek but a famous Japanese comedian can't do this?</quote> lmao what a stupid comparison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/04/18 9:29:21 PM #40:	So, uh... How are other countries supposed to know that something's not cool if no one is allowed to call them out on it due to that country's homogeneity/xenophobia? --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:893442169] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>So, uh... How are other countries supposed to know that something's not cool if no one is allowed to call them out on it due to that country's homogeneity/xenophobia?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hirunesukidayo 01/04/18 9:35:58 PM #41:	Hamada.........no surprise,with every new year,their usual 24 hour no laughing game,he ALWAYS has to wear something odd in contrast to his friends. --- "Hey mister,..." "I am mad scientist! It's so cool! Sonuvab***!" <cite>Hirunesukidayo posted [p:893442538] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Hamada.........no surprise,with every new year,their usual 24 hour no laughing game,he ALWAYS has to wear something odd in contrast to his friends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImaAskAQuestion 01/04/18 9:40:08 PM #42:	Hirunesukidayo posted... Hamada.........no surprise,with every new year,their usual 24 hour no laughing game,he ALWAYS has to wear something odd in contrast to his friends. Nothing beats Yamachan and his Detective batsu Hell costume. --- Just curious <cite>ImaAskAQuestion posted [p:893442760] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hirunesukidayo posted...</cite> <quote>Hamada.........no surprise,with every new year,their usual 24 hour no laughing game,he ALWAYS has to wear something odd in contrast to his friends.</quote> Nothing beats Yamachan and his Detective batsu Hell costume.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 01/04/18 9:45:30 PM #43:	What a bunch of crybabies who don't understand the concept behind a comedy show. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:893443082] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>What a bunch of crybabies who don't understand the concept behind a comedy show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/04/18 9:57:06 PM #44:	Axiom posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... Axiom posted... Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think. Cosplay is not the same as blackface which historically was used as a way to mock black people and further stereotypes. You're right about Japan not caring though and that's because they truly are racist as fuck. That said I'm willing to chalk this up to their ignorance on blackface's history in America not that they would care about it in the first place And Sugar Cane was historically the worst torture an African slave could be forced to endure and the only reason it has any presence today is because it was cultivated at the expense of Africans. Should we can that, too? Almost 100% of our scientific knowledge about cryogenic interactions with living humans comes from experiments conducted by Nazis on live Jews. Throw all that out, too? Blackface historically being used for racism isn't an issue as long as you aren't using it to be racist now. As for "why just not use a black actor?" That's something I can't answer as my knowledge of Japan's minority status and demos is practically nil. I also have no idea if the plot of the tribute in question specifically calls for blackface (such as Tropic Thunder). --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893443738] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever</quote> Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think.</quote> Cosplay is not the same as blackface which historically was used as a way to mock black people and further stereotypes. You're right about Japan not caring though and that's because they truly are racist as fuck. That said I'm willing to chalk this up to their ignorance on blackface's history in America not that they would care about it in the first place</quote> And Sugar Cane was historically the worst torture an African slave could be forced to endure and the only reason it has any presence today is because it was cultivated at the expense of Africans. Should we can that, too? Almost 100% of our scientific knowledge about cryogenic interactions with living humans comes from experiments conducted by Nazis on live Jews. Throw all that out, too? Blackface historically being used for racism isn't an issue as long as you aren't using it to be racist now. As for "why just not use a black actor?" That's something I can't answer as my knowledge of Japan's minority status and demos is practically nil. I also have no idea if the plot of the tribute in question specifically calls for blackface (such as Tropic Thunder).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 01/04/18 9:57:57 PM #45:	Solar_Crimson posted... So, uh... How are other countries supposed to know that something's not cool if no one is allowed to call them out on it due to that country's homogeneity/xenophobia? And it's not even an American show. It's a Japanese show targeted to japanese audiences. --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:893443812] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>So, uh... How are other countries supposed to know that something's not cool if no one is allowed to call them out on it due to that country's homogeneity/xenophobia?</quote> And it's not even an American show. It's a Japanese show targeted to japanese audiences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 01/04/18 9:58:26 PM #46:	SpiritSephiroth posted... Lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:893443834] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiritSephiroth posted...</cite> <quote>Lol</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 01/04/18 9:59:39 PM #47:	ChromaticAngel posted... Axiom posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... Axiom posted... Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think. Cosplay is not the same as blackface which historically was used as a way to mock black people and further stereotypes. You're right about Japan not caring though and that's because they truly are racist as fuck. That said I'm willing to chalk this up to their ignorance on blackface's history in America not that they would care about it in the first place And Sugar Cane was historically the worst torture an African slave could be forced to endure and the only reason it has any presence today is because it was cultivated at the expense of Africans. Should we can that, too? Almost 100% of our scientific knowledge about cryogenic interactions with living humans comes from experiments conducted by Nazis on live Jews. Throw all that out, too? Blackface historically being used for racism isn't an issue as long as you aren't using it to be racist now. As for "why just not use a black actor?" That's something I can't answer as my knowledge of Japan's minority status and demos is practically nil. I also have no idea if the plot of the tribute in question specifically calls for blackface (such as Tropic Thunder). They can't use a black actor because the gag is that Hamada is forcibly dressed up as other people. Also, there aren't ANY black japanese comedians as funny as hamada --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:893443902] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Blackface doesn't really have the same connotation in Japan as it does here. Yeah blackface is definitely offensive but it's Japan so whatever</quote> Japan literally cosplay in legit Nazi uniforms with swastikas and banners and Nazi marches and so on. They don't give a shit about what people think.</quote> Cosplay is not the same as blackface which historically was used as a way to mock black people and further stereotypes. You're right about Japan not caring though and that's because they truly are racist as fuck. That said I'm willing to chalk this up to their ignorance on blackface's history in America not that they would care about it in the first place</quote> And Sugar Cane was historically the worst torture an African slave could be forced to endure and the only reason it has any presence today is because it was cultivated at the expense of Africans. Should we can that, too? Almost 100% of our scientific knowledge about cryogenic interactions with living humans comes from experiments conducted by Nazis on live Jews. Throw all that out, too? Blackface historically being used for racism isn't an issue as long as you aren't using it to be racist now. As for "why just not use a black actor?" That's something I can't answer as my knowledge of Japan's minority status and demos is practically nil. I also have no idea if the plot of the tribute in question specifically calls for blackface (such as Tropic Thunder).</quote> They can't use a black actor because the gag is that Hamada is forcibly dressed up as other people. Also, there aren't ANY black japanese comedians as funny as hamada</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 01/04/18 10:02:28 PM #48:	Not offensive in the slightest. People act like it's so bad need to stop crying, it's in Japan. Japan doesn't have to be a melting pot like other parts of the world. Japan is proud to be Japanese --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:893444049] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Not offensive in the slightest. People act like it's so bad need to stop crying, it's in Japan. Japan doesn't have to be a melting pot like other parts of the world. Japan is proud to be Japanese</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 01/04/18 10:05:02 PM #49:	Man, talk about being a perpetual victim to play the race card against a country that didn't participate in black slavery. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:893444183] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote>Man, talk about being a perpetual victim to play the race card against a country that didn't participate in black slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 01/04/18 10:05:33 PM #50:	<_< --- http://i.imgur.com/8yR36B5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EjDEtoS.jpg <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:893444215] in Japanese T... [t:76168938]...</cite> <quote><_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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