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TheVipaGTS 01/02/18 5:46:46 PM #1:	http://6abc.com/driver-shot-by-plainclothes-officer-in-germantown-dies;-officer-idd/2832194/ ...was he just supposed to assume they were cops and not looking to harm him? People who don't look like cops in a car that isn't a police car pointing guns at him and shouting commands at him...how the fuck did they expect him to act? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:893307169] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>http://6abc.com/driver-shot-by-plainclothes-officer-in-germantown-dies;-officer-idd/2832194/ ...was he just supposed to assume they were cops and not looking to harm him? People who don't look like cops in a car that isn't a police car pointing guns at him and shouting commands at him...how the fuck did they expect him to act?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceLegend 01/02/18 5:47:22 PM #2:	Not good. --- A hero can die, but a legend can never die. I'm a legend, therefore I can never die. <cite>IceLegend posted [p:893307195] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Not good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 01/02/18 5:48:00 PM #3:	Jfc ACAB --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:893307231] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Jfc ACAB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3khc 01/02/18 5:50:34 PM #4:	Please understand that the police feared for their lives. --- ---- ----- <cite>3khc posted [p:893307360] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Please understand that the police feared for their lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 01/02/18 5:51:11 PM #5:	If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:893307399] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/02/18 5:52:04 PM #6:	eston posted... If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over Always that one guy --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:893307451] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over</quote> Always that one guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 01/02/18 5:52:11 PM #7:	eston posted... If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over just because what he did can be considered "stupid" doesn't mean what the cops did was at all justifiable. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:893307460] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over</quote> just because what he did can be considered "stupid" doesn't mean what the cops did was at all justifiable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 01/02/18 5:52:43 PM #8:	Something that's really weird to me is that whenever I see these stories develop, a considerable amount of people think any resistance shown is grounds for execution. Like I understand that acting out is not good, but it's bizarre that this is "fair, next" material to a lot of people. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:893307494] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Something that's really weird to me is that whenever I see these stories develop, a considerable amount of people think any resistance shown is grounds for execution. Like I understand that acting out is not good, but it's bizarre that this is "fair, next" material to a lot of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 01/02/18 6:00:25 PM #9:	Human life is cheap in this country. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:893307928] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Human life is cheap in this country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/02/18 6:04:13 PM #10:	pinky0926 posted... Something that's really weird to me is that whenever I see these stories develop, a considerable amount of people think any resistance shown is grounds for execution. Like I understand that acting out is not good, but it's bizarre that this is "fair, next" material to a lot of people. You almost need to be trained to know how to handle the police in America. Or you risk being gunned down. I know it's different because of the amount of guns there but god damn. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:893308157] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that's really weird to me is that whenever I see these stories develop, a considerable amount of people think any resistance shown is grounds for execution. Like I understand that acting out is not good, but it's bizarre that this is "fair, next" material to a lot of people.</quote> You almost need to be trained to know how to handle the police in America. Or you risk being gunned down. I know it's different because of the amount of guns there but god damn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 01/02/18 6:04:13 PM #11:	Hey man just assume that every random person who has a gun is a cop and you'll survive any encounter with them as long as you do exactly as they say tbh --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:893308158] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Hey man just assume that every random person who has a gun is a cop and you'll survive any encounter with them as long as you do exactly as they say tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 01/02/18 6:05:28 PM #12:	Ving_Rhames posted... Hey man just assume that every random person who has a gun is a cop and you'll survive any encounter with them as long as you do exactly as they say tbh dude ran up in my house with a gun. stole everything i had....but i just assumed he was a cop so I wouldn't die. everyone should just do that if they don't want to die. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:893308227] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ving_Rhames posted...</cite> <quote>Hey man just assume that every random person who has a gun is a cop and you'll survive any encounter with them as long as you do exactly as they say tbh</quote> dude ran up in my house with a gun. stole everything i had....but i just assumed he was a cop so I wouldn't die. everyone should just do that if they don't want to die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/02/18 6:06:39 PM #13:	this was straight up murder <cite>Zikten posted [p:893308288] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>this was straight up murder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 01/02/18 6:08:07 PM #14:	If they showed their badge and made it clear they were police, then fair next. If not, then no. I feel like either way, this isnt what plainclothes officers should used for. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:893308363] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>If they showed their badge and made it clear they were police, then fair next. If not, then no. I feel like either way, this isnt what plainclothes officers should used for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 01/02/18 6:09:19 PM #15:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... If they showed their badge and made it clear they were police, then fair next. yea man flashing a badge while pointing a gun at someone is impossible for anyone but police officers to do! --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:893308438] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote>If they showed their badge and made it clear they were police, then fair next. </quote> yea man flashing a badge while pointing a gun at someone is impossible for anyone but police officers to do!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3khc 01/02/18 6:13:17 PM #16:	Ving_Rhames posted... Hey man just assume that every random person who has a gun is a cop and you'll survive any encounter with them as long as you do exactly as they say tbh Well you prob should listen to the guy with the gun regardless of their intention. --- ---- ----- <cite>3khc posted [p:893308667] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ving_Rhames posted...</cite> <quote>Hey man just assume that every random person who has a gun is a cop and you'll survive any encounter with them as long as you do exactly as they say tbh</quote> Well you prob should listen to the guy with the gun regardless of their intention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 01/02/18 6:27:58 PM #17:	TheVipaGTS posted... eston posted... If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over just because what he did can be considered "stupid" doesn't mean what the cops did was at all justifiable. They pulled over a vehicle whose description and tag matched what they were looking for --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:893309480] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over</quote> just because what he did can be considered "stupid" doesn't mean what the cops did was at all justifiable.</quote> They pulled over a vehicle whose description and tag matched what they were looking for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 01/02/18 6:32:18 PM #18:	eston posted... TheVipaGTS posted... eston posted... If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over just because what he did can be considered "stupid" doesn't mean what the cops did was at all justifiable. They pulled over a vehicle whose description and tag matched what they were looking for and then they killed someone. he had no way of knowing they were cops. he had no reason to assume they were cops. Maybe he pulled over because he figured they were at first, but after noticing the lack of uniform or lack of markings on the car thought they might be out to hurt him and sped off. when they persisted he might have tried to defend himself.... ...again, his actions can be considered "stupid" but it in no way justifies killing him. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:893309712] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>If he was concerned about them not being real police, the correct response isn't to pull over anyway and then run one of them over</quote> just because what he did can be considered "stupid" doesn't mean what the cops did was at all justifiable.</quote> They pulled over a vehicle whose description and tag matched what they were looking for</quote> and then they killed someone. he had no way of knowing they were cops. he had no reason to assume they were cops. Maybe he pulled over because he figured they were at first, but after noticing the lack of uniform or lack of markings on the car thought they might be out to hurt him and sped off. when they persisted he might have tried to defend himself.... ...again, his actions can be considered "stupid" but it in no way justifies killing him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 01/02/18 6:32:22 PM #19:	frozenshock posted... Human life is cheap in this country. Well when everyone is nothing more than a cog in a machine, that happens. --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:893309722] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Human life is cheap in this country.</quote> Well when everyone is nothing more than a cog in a machine, that happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 01/02/18 6:35:47 PM #21:	Spooking posted... Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head. Sounds like suicide by cop, sadly. no it doesn't. if two random men in normal clothes were shouting at you to do something while pointing a gun at you why would you just assume they were cops? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:893309909] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head.</quote> Sounds like suicide by cop, sadly.</quote> no it doesn't. if two random men in normal clothes were shouting at you to do something while pointing a gun at you why would you just assume they were cops?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 01/02/18 6:39:20 PM #22:	Hopefully this helps make plainclothes police illegal. So unethical i surprised they still allow it. --- Currently playing on SNES Classic: Super Mario Kart, Earthbound, Donkey Kong Country. I broke up with my girlfriend so please stop asking me about it! <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:893310119] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully this helps make plainclothes police illegal. So unethical i surprised they still allow it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkittyOnWailord 01/02/18 6:39:57 PM #23:	According to officials, the driver subsequently ran into at least two parked cars; the second officer caught up with the driver at this time. Police backup arrived, including uniformed officers. Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head. Pretty sure he knew they were real police by then. And if he didn't then I don't know why he got out of his car. But as usual we probably don't have the full story. --- I'm here! I'm furry! I'll try not to shed! =^_^= i7 5820K\|Rampage V Extreme\|32GB DDR4 Ripjaws 4\|2xSLI GTX 980ti Lightning LE\|HAF 932\|Samsung 50inch 4K\|HTC Vive <cite>SkittyOnWailord posted [p:893310149] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><quote>According to officials, the driver subsequently ran into at least two parked cars; the second officer caught up with the driver at this time. Police backup arrived, including uniformed officers. Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head.</quote> Pretty sure he knew they were real police by then. And if he didn't then I don't know why he got out of his car. But as usual we probably don't have the full story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Looked gf 01/02/18 6:47:06 PM #24:	Spooking posted... Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head. Sounds like suicide by cop, sadly. Yeah... no --- https://giant.gfycat.com/ShowyWarmheartedCuscus.gif <cite>Looked gf posted [p:893310577] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head.</quote> Sounds like suicide by cop, sadly.</quote> Yeah... no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 01/02/18 7:49:07 PM #25:	TC really wants this to not sound justified --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:893314283] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>TC really wants this to not sound justified</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 01/02/18 7:50:45 PM #26:	Darmik posted... pinky0926 posted... Something that's really weird to me is that whenever I see these stories develop, a considerable amount of people think any resistance shown is grounds for execution. Like I understand that acting out is not good, but it's bizarre that this is "fair, next" material to a lot of people. You almost need to be trained to know how to handle the police in America. Or you risk being gunned down. I know it's different because of the amount of guns there but god damn. it wasnt always like this --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:893314375] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that's really weird to me is that whenever I see these stories develop, a considerable amount of people think any resistance shown is grounds for execution. Like I understand that acting out is not good, but it's bizarre that this is "fair, next" material to a lot of people.</quote> You almost need to be trained to know how to handle the police in America. Or you risk being gunned down. I know it's different because of the amount of guns there but god damn.</quote> it wasnt always like this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 01/02/18 7:59:02 PM #27:	it would be one thing if the guy ran down an alley, but if he did use his car as a weapon, ran into and put other drivers in danger while still resisting, ignoring all commands and going for his waistband then how many chances is he supposed to get? --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:893314861] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>it would be one thing if the guy ran down an alley, but if he did use his car as a weapon, ran into and put other drivers in danger while still resisting, ignoring all commands and going for his waistband then how many chances is he supposed to get?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 01/02/18 7:59:37 PM #28:	SkittyOnWailord posted... According to officials, the driver subsequently ran into at least two parked cars; the second officer caught up with the driver at this time. Police backup arrived, including uniformed officers. Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head. Pretty sure he knew they were real police by then. I'm sure he knew it was the police from the beginning. Unmarked cars still do have sophisticated lights on the vehicles and I'm sure they identified themselves. I'm sure it will come out that he knew the car was used in a homicide, he had warrants, etc. He was using his vehicle as a deadly weapon, striking other cars and making contact with an officer. Sad situation, but this isn't the smoking gun of "Cops just walk up and shoot black people for no reason at all" --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:893314891] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>SkittyOnWailord posted...</cite> <quote><quote>According to officials, the driver subsequently ran into at least two parked cars; the second officer caught up with the driver at this time. Police backup arrived, including uniformed officers. Police said the driver exited the car but had his hand in his pocket. Police said Officer Ruch gave repeated commands for the man to show his hands but he did not comply. Ruch then discharged his service weapon, striking the man in the head.</quote> Pretty sure he knew they were real police by then.</quote> I'm sure he knew it was the police from the beginning. Unmarked cars still do have sophisticated lights on the vehicles and I'm sure they identified themselves. I'm sure it will come out that he knew the car was used in a homicide, he had warrants, etc. He was using his vehicle as a deadly weapon, striking other cars and making contact with an officer. Sad situation, but this isn't the smoking gun of "Cops just walk up and shoot black people for no reason at all"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 01/02/18 8:01:33 PM #29:	yeah if the plates really matched and he tried to run over a cop that's fair, next. I got home from having drinks with my friend one night and we were sitting in the car, and just as she's about to get out and piss in the driveway like 3 cops pulled in behind me. apparently my car matched one that was in a hit and run. they just id'd me and asked where we were and left though --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:893315015] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>yeah if the plates really matched and he tried to run over a cop that's fair, next. I got home from having drinks with my friend one night and we were sitting in the car, and just as she's about to get out and piss in the driveway like 3 cops pulled in behind me. apparently my car matched one that was in a hit and run. they just id'd me and asked where we were and left though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 01/02/18 10:23:40 PM #30:	Cop needs to be fired and sent to prison. From how he described it, there was no reason to kill the guy. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:893323175] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Cop needs to be fired and sent to prison. From how he described it, there was no reason to kill the guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby 01/03/18 5:01:58 PM #31:	Fair, next --- Bender: You know, I was God once. God: Yes, I saw. You were doing well until everyone died. <cite>Kirby posted [p:893365873] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 01/03/18 5:13:38 PM #32:	TheVipaGTS posted... was he just supposed to assume they were cops and not looking to harm him? It says that uniformed officers were there before he was shot. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:893366510] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>was he just supposed to assume they were cops and not looking to harm him?</quote> It says that uniformed officers were there before he was shot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/03/18 5:17:29 PM #33:	100% justified. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:893366742] in Unarmed ma... [t:76162057]...</cite> <quote>100% justified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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