Current Events > No one talking about the fact that the Zelda timeline has been abandoned?

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AlecSkorpio
12/31/17 11:03:29 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iiqEh81oWE


skip to 6:50 for the good stuff

tl;dr: Apparently in the Breath of the Wild Master Works book states

"Since olden times, the land has repeatedly undergone periods of prosperity and decline, so much os that it is unknown whether the legends passed down are actually true, or simply fairy tales."

So basically, at this point literally every previous game could just be "a Legend" and the timeline doesn't mean shit like it always should have been.
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masterpug53
12/31/17 11:05:57 AM
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Not much to discuss, I suppose. If they're doing away with the horrid timeline, it's a good thing.
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Banjo2553
12/31/17 11:06:40 AM
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On the one hand, it's odd because Aonuma seemed to care about story and establishing an overall timeline for some time now. But on the other hand, thank God Nintendo doesn't have to worry about it anymore. It was interesting to piece the games together but it's so goddamn convoluted.

Unless they're using Breath of the Wild as a new starting point and basically declaring the rest of the games as "Legends."
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Solar_Crimson
12/31/17 11:07:53 AM
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People would be more accepting of that timeline if it were not for the branch where Link dies against Ganon.
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SSJCAT
12/31/17 11:09:00 AM
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The timeline is dumb and unnecessary.
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Banjo2553
12/31/17 11:09:15 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
People would be more accepting of that timeline if it were not for the branch where Link dies against Ganon.

Agreed, that was stupid.
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Stalolin
12/31/17 11:09:16 AM
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I don't know why the fans are so obsessed with a timeline in the first place to be honest.
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Southernfatman
12/31/17 11:10:32 AM
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Good. The timeline crap was just there because nerdy fans feel everything must be connected.
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EverDownward
12/31/17 11:10:38 AM
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I always liked the idea that the first Zelda was actually at the very end of the timeline. It made sense, there were barely any people left and they were all in hiding while monsters and creatures absolutely ravaged the land.
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darkbuster
12/31/17 11:12:09 AM
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I'm honestly surprised Nintendo tried to pass that convoluted mess off as a coherent timeline, to begin with.

The only DEFINITE timeline is at best something like:

Skyward Sword>OoT>MM>TWW>Phantom Hourglass>Spirit Tracks

also:

ALttP>ALBW

everything else vaguely may or may not fit between those somewhere.
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einegutePerson
12/31/17 11:12:18 AM
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>games were made without much intention to connect them temporally
>fans kept asking and pestering
>company relents
>wahhh its not what we wanted

i mean

it goes on like this

my point is, it's kinda dumb tbh although admittedly cool
but ultimately, i think they were always just meant to be games alone, unless explicitly sequels like Zelda 1 & Adventure of Link, ALttP & ALBW, OoT and MM, WW and after, etc
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NeonOctopus
12/31/17 11:13:19 AM
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Solar_Crimson
12/31/17 11:13:43 AM
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EverDownward posted...
I always liked the idea that the first Zelda was actually at the very end of the timeline. It made sense, there were barely any people left and they were all in hiding while monsters and creatures absolutely ravaged the land.

Actually, I believe it was agreed that Zelda 2 was the end, since it's a direct sequel to the first Zelda game.
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Solar_Crimson
12/31/17 11:16:25 AM
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darkbuster posted...
The only DEFINITE timeline is at best something like:

Skyward Sword>OoT>MM>TWW>Phantom Hourglass>Spirit Tracks

Actually, Ocarina's split into WW and MM/TP does make sense, considering the time travel that happened there.

Wind Waker's backstory states that Ganon came back, but Link was nowhere to be found, because he was sent back to the past.

Majora's Mask picks up right after the Young Link returns to the past after defeating Ganon in the future.
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einegutePerson
12/31/17 11:18:05 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Wind Waker's backstory states that Ganon came back, but Link was nowhere to be found, because he was sent back to the past.

why would that future not be child link's future then

time paradox

booom
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Youngster_Joey_
12/31/17 11:20:20 AM
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I'm one of the guys that feel the timeline outside of direct sequels were complete bullshit.

But, if I wanted to piss off Zelda fanboys
I'd point out that clearly Wind Waker games didn't happen because those were clearly the "fairy tales" that are mentioned in the video.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
12/31/17 11:26:18 AM
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They're just doing what they attempted to do back in the N64 years but people were too stupid or dense to understand.

Basically, they're "soft rebooting" the series.

This happened with most of their series during the N64 era.

Super Mario 64 (and consequently, all future 3D Marios) don't really have much of a connection with the NES/SNES/Gameboy 2D Marios.

Star Fox 64 was a straight up reboot of Star Fox from SNES.

And Ocarina of Time was basically a "starting over" for Zelda, which was made abundantly clear when they created the timeline and the NES/SNES/Gameboy Zeldas were literally made non canon through being part of some goofy "Link died lol" timeline.

Basically, everyone tries to come up with some sort of linear canon timeline when Nintendo never really had any intention of this and always wanted there to be specific "eras" or "versions" of their series (although I'd argue this is starting to get abandoned with Mario or has always been murkey with Mario, there's clearly a distinct difference between "2D Mario" and "3D Mario" and even "RPG Mario" and "Paper Mario")

In the same way, there was supposed to be a break between top down Zelda and 3D Zelda.

And now there doing it again with Open World Zelda.
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Skye Reynolds
12/31/17 11:39:33 AM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
"Since olden times, the land has repeatedly undergone periods of prosperity and decline, so much os that it is unknown whether the legends passed down are actually true, or simply fairy tales."


Good. Fuck the "Ocarina of Time Link dies bitter or in Ganon's tower" bull shit. Now I can play that game again.
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Banjo2553
12/31/17 11:40:56 AM
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einegutePerson posted...
why would that future not be child link's future then

time paradox

booom

In a world where any time fuckery creates an alternate universe...not so easy.

Then again this also brings into question literally everything about Skyward Sword's time travel as well.
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prettyprincess
12/31/17 11:46:16 AM
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the best game, Link's Awakening, is real and the rest of the franchise are dreams
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